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That and the fact that he basically promised to give the money saved during the Bill Clinton years "back to the people" [eyeroll] via taxslashes, which evidently appealed to Joe Sixpack and Hockey Mom more than Al Gore's "Medicare Lock Box". |
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but mandates in American politics aren't determined by proportion of votes like in European politics rather in public perception, enthusiasm, and support and there is very little enthusiasm for Ovelord Hillary win or lose. reality is even Trump doesn't have genuine enthusiasm rather his "supporters" are enthusiastic about their partisanship but not necessarily their candidate. its essentially bizarro world John McCain. |
gore was a boring-ass fucking candidate. people wanted to "have a beer" with the fucking texan dolt instead. sure, the supreme court handed florida, and nader had a role in shaving those numbers close, but ultimately gore was a fucking boring candidate who squandered his advantage by being boring.
so im not counting my chickens yet. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo... ein-5952.html hillary unfortunately is much more exciting when she's pissed off, putting the senate fuckers in their place, than when she's trying to be positive and cheery and sounding fake. she's effective but she's got anticharisma. then she picks kaine. zzzzzzzzzzzzz. all the emotion in this campaign is coming from trump-- the hate, and the haters of hate. so here's to hating trump's hate---and to the self-destruction of the lunatic. but dont count your chickens yet |
Cause for optimism?
In 2000, Bush needed 41 percent of hispanic vote to win. He got 42 or something. In 2004, it was up a percentage point. McCain got 35 or so, Romney 28. Trump is currently at 14-16%, depending on the source. I'm not sure what the needed Hispanic number is nowadays, but it ain't below 14%. He's almost certainly going to loose the popular. And if we didn't have an electoral college I would sleep easy. Quote:
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that's one of the reasons I wanted a Castro brother to be the veep choice. I think she missed a YUGE opportunity to mobilize those voters. In other e(r/l)ection news, Melanoma's web page with her Lower Slobbovian architecture degree has been removed from the web, but good ol Archive.org has saved it, including her beauty product line made with genuine fish eggs!
https://web.archive.org/web/20160720....com/my-world/ |
@ evllv: no celebration until results are called in
@ ilducio: my panics don't need pandering with some unknown tejano, we already have jorge ramos on the departamento de movilización. https://mobile.twitter.com/jorgeramo...Ctwgr%5Eauthor |
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Yeah, I was agreeing with you. It's my mantra. I'm going to be a nervous wreck the next 100 days or so, no matter what the polls say. Wish I didn't live in Ohio. I might have to canvass. Damn it. |
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I plan on hibernating until November 9, when I will hopefully wake up with Clinton as President-elect and brush off the campaign as one long, LONG, LONG motherfucking nightmare. Quote:
Oyyyy... Sorry for ya, man. :( |
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also, phone banks. |
I'm not sure what you mean by "the data." Sounds painless. I got really lucky: There's a Democratic office within easy walking distance of where I live. I'll ask if they have anything for lazy people who don't love Hillary but fucking hate Trump.
I canvassed like a motherfucker in 2008. It was difficult but I'm convinced knocking on a door an engaging a stranger in conversation is the best way to win someone over. Yeah, the hardest thing is the most effective. Damn you Life! |
you go over the list of voter data and make sure it's up to date etc as canvassers return so that you don't send people after the wrong place again or start pissing people off by sending 10 canvassers to the same house. it's the back end to the street activity. "moved" "voted early" "undecided" etc.
i'd rather deal with boring computers than people ha ha ha. but did my bit of that too-- i even drove people to the polls! |
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the electoral college in particular is what dooms Trump. |
You gotta be shitting me (yet again):
The Latest: Trump: The election might be "rigged" Also (same link): Pocket Constitution Sales Soar After Trump Feud With Khan Family! |
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me and Ms Ild cook dinners and lunches for campaign volunteers and drop them by our local Democratic Hq. I also volunteer to help set up and take down for their yearly "Chili Cookoff". I have been thinking about entering my chili (which is purely magnificent and would EASILY beat all the others), but there is more need for me to drive equipment back & forth in my little red truck;) |
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This is Ohio right now according to The New York Times (check the link to review their methodology): ![]() |
big kicks for HRC according to 538.org today, though 64/37 polls only, 68/32 polls plus aaand 82/18 on the now cast
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this picture wins the thread damn, this picture wins ALL threads |
trumps dogs are trying to incite violence
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hopefully they get put down |
This is just fuckin' priceless, W.C. Fields stuff without the (intended) comedy:
Trump at rally: 'Get the baby out of here' Video: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...g-women-voters |
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Incidentally, on July 29 Donaldinho tweeted that "Hillary & the Dems are trying to rig the debates so 2 are up against major NFL games", a claim that got a Pants On Fire rating on Politifact.com. ![]() |
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cheers! |
Mapping Donald Trump's Many Ties To Vladimir Putin's Russia
A neat-o short vide-o. |
![]() Clint Eastwood Cheers Donald Trump & Slams "Pussy Generation" "When I grew up, those things weren't called racist". Real nice, you piece of shit. |
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what i find validating is people been acting like im an asshole for years now for always being anti racist for always accusing a sizable portion of American society as being racist and yet here we are with everything in plain view
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CLINT EASTWOOD: TRUMP CHALLENGING OBAMA’S ‘PUSSY GENERATION’
"Just fucking get over it," 86-year-old actor says ESQ: What is the “pussy generation”? CE: All these people that say, “Oh, you can’t do that, and you can’t do this, and you can’t say that.” I guess it’s just the times. ESQ: Politically, you’re the Anti-Pussy party? SE: That’s right. No candy-asses. CE: Yeah, I’m anti–the pussy generation. Not to be confused with pussy. SE: All of us are pro-pussy. |
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Who cares about what a stupid redneck actor, who can't even act, thinks? If it wasn't for fellow rednecks going to see his movies he would either be in prison or dead. |
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so if grandmother had wheels she'd be a bicycle. got it. |
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haha, far from it (if i understood correctly), cool pic but! |
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beavis: we don't hate pussy butthead: all of us are pro-pussy, uh-huh-huh beavis: yeah. we like pussy. pussy. butthead: uh huh huh beavis: pussy. pussy generation. butthead: shut up beavis change the name of the show to "eastwood & son" & put it on tvland at 3am |
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oh, i got confused (above /first time encounter with word amirite/), hehe, i see now. |
78/22 polls only
73/27 polls plus 92/8 nowcast http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...tion-forecast/ |
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Thanks for this link! |
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sure, I like the Nate Silver poll analysis, but here's a good article explaining the process and shows another way of looking at it (a more nuanced view) http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._the_2016.html |
per that link, trump + johnson would beat hillary on the popular vote (don't know what would happen to the electoral college).
north carolina looks flipped and az is awfully close. can it really be? new mexico looks solid democrat now. sorry, "new rapist" i meant. this used to be a purple state. now florida, ohio, pennsylvania, please don't fuck us. he looks like he's gonna cry. is he gonna cry? he's gonna cry! he's gonna cry in november |
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Ohio poll numbers embarrass me.
But three months is a looooong way to go in politics. Particularly this year, not one single person has any idea what lurks around the bend. BTW, can we please stop all the Trump bashing? I understand disagreeing with his tax policy, but all the name-calling in this thread gets us nowhere. He's a person too, with real emotions. You're causing hurt and not helping America. Dick. |
au contraire. He's a real threat to our way of life, and just about anything that can be done to defeat him needs to be done
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