why oh why do none of these rap acts put shit out on vinyl no more???????

Rob, what do you think about the following songs?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ho64pS1kTRk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=njSDwD6Gg8Q

Because streaming is the stupid ass future of stuff.

It's funny, isn't it? Just a couple years ago, even AS streaming was really becoming the standard, vinyl surpassed CD sales and for a while there it seemed you were more likely to find new albums on LP than CD.

Now, all that vinyl buzz has culminated in a premature ejacultion, because guess what? Surpassing CD sales is not that big of a feat anymore. Vinyl costs significantly more to manufacture than files on Spotify (which cost, like, nothing to manufacture.. literally).

Vinyl is for niche market music enthusiast types. Average listeners (like most rap fans) are perfectly happy with Spotify. Jam is a jam after all.

I like songs about drugs and degeneracy and fringe shit.

DopeMan is a decent track, mellw and boomin, good for a saturday cookout (at least with MY peeps)

hahahah

I have not listened to much Tory Lanez. the second track, anyway, is more of a snoozer. I would probably not listen to it again.

My issue is that Hip Hop sprang forth from vinyl records. I wish I could find full LP's on vinyl. I guess I will just download the hot releases, and pay for shit transfer to a vinyl plant in Taiwan and then sell the trap bootlegs on vinyl and make myself a BOSS

He's inconsistent. I can't really sit through an entire mixtape from him but his standouts blow me away. I really want him to put out a solid project already.

"DopeMan Go" is definitely one of those songs that show his potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REBFAZSITgk

This one is amazing!

like trap for lovers..... ha!

Yeah, he's pretty much a bad boy version of Drake, with a more pleasant voice (to my ears anyway). If Drake fusion danced with Travis the outcome would be Tory.

Drake's voice is brutal. Like a bad joke.

He sounds like Spongebob.

Yes. This is true and accurate. He sounds like rich guy farts. I Fucking hate his voice. It's the most lethal aural toxin I've ever come across. Damn near ruined "Fuckin Problems." He sounds like George Cloony at the Oscars. He sounds like the kid who punches himself in the face and then tells everyone YOU hit him, and cries and whines and then smiles when you get scolded.

Drake is terrible.

Kanye is reportedly recording a new album on top of a mountain in Wyoming.
I'm not sure why, but I really want this to be true.

Also, apparently Cruel Winter is done, and is not the album in question.

Here's some words from Pigeons & Planes

Vince Staples has a new album coming out in 1 month. It's called Big Fish Theory (dumb name) and it won't be as good as DAMN., but it will likely be the second best major rap album of the year unless Pusha T drops something.

http://pitchfork.com/news/72066-vinc...test-and-video

Accurate.

I still buy CD's.

DAMN. is still making a huge impression on me. I feel like I lived with the first half of the album for a month (plus DUCKWORTH.) and now I'm starting to really let the second half sink in. "LOVE" and "FEAR" and "GOD" and "XXX" are all such great songs. I feel like Kendrick's personality is finally coming through on this album... like, his sense of humor and his real bare-bones self. I've loved him for a while now, but I've seen him as a rapper, limited to bars even if they're great ones.

Now it's like there's more there. Maybe just because I have listened enough to feel like I understand his personality a bit more now, but he's coming across much more like a full-fledged artist and less like just a technical wizard. I feel like I can finally relate to this album's more universal themes of conscience and morality and self-scrutiny, whereas his previous albums have been hard for me to relate to as a middle class white nerd.

I think this might be his best album. It's been stuck in my head pretty much since it dropped, and I'm still listening to it a month later and finding new shit to like. DAMN. is just a really strong fucking album all around — not just a good rap record.

I can't stop spinning From The D to The A https://youtu.be/-S0aea777jM


love hearing lil boat with no autotune.

No offense, but you have worse taste in hip-hop than anyone ever. ;)

hahahahahhaahahahahah

Dirty South y'all

Can we all at leats agreee that DJ Khaled is just FUCKING AWFUL? I get deranged pedophile vibe from that fuck. His beats SUCK SHIT.

Yes. He's terrible. He doesn't even really make beats. He's a professional curator. He barely produces... barely contributes anything musical to "his" music. He's a big fucking fraudulent motivational speaking Snapchat endorsing lump of uselessness. I'd argue that Drake (fucking DRAKE!!! is more talented by every conceivable metric. And that's really saying something.

I get what he's going for... the lazy route to hip-hop superstardom. Become a brand. Put that brand on things. Feature famous people and soon enough, the average Joe will think you're an artist. But he's more of an actual "disc jockey" (like, in the radio personality sense of the word) than a "DJ."

THIS is a DJ:


THIS is a motherfucking DJ:


Khaled is a blob of nothingness.

I'm really feeling like we, as a hip-hop café, took Frank Ocean's Blonde for granted last year. What a weird ass, wonderful album that was.

discussion of Frank Ocean should go in the R&B cafe, not Hip Hops

I actually puzzled over this a lot. Not the "café" part, as there is no R&B café, but whether or not Frank Ocean qualifies as hip-hop.

He certainly isn't R&B by any traditional definition. But he might be more "pop" or even, honestly, "experimental pop" than hip-hop.

That said, he is part of hip-hop culture, he raps in addition to singing, he cut his teeth with Odd Future, and fleshed out his career with Kanye and Jay-Z features. His album features the hardest bars Andre 3000 has rapped since Outkast dissolved, and he is black and funky. So... it's no stretch to call him hip-hop.

Basically, if Kanye is hip-hop, so is Frank. That's how I see it. Neither of them fit into the box sonically, and neither can R-A-P on the level of Danny Brown or Kendrick or blah blah. But they're both culturally hip-hop.

Fucking Beyoncé is culturally hip-hip at this point. Remember the '90s, when Timbaland started exploding R&B jizz all over crazy, spooky beats? Well, R&B changed when that shit happened.

I actually think Blonde is a lot more like TLOP than I initially thought. Even sloppier and more chaotic, really, if in a more subdued way. Nowhere near as good as TLOP of course, but still very good.

everything is cuirrently hip hop becauise it is the basiss for almost all the tracks in pop radio at the moment. I would say it is 9 in 10 thjat are hip hop, sample based, beat tracks, and 1 out of 10 are rock based, instrument-played tracks.

B L A C K I E - Remains



^^^BEST hooks of 2017^^^

Wow. What the fuck is this? It's interesting, but it sounds a bit like Chino Moreno from Deftones injected himself with a speedball of Death Grips and Slayer.

I don't think this is hip-hop. :confused:
But I am intrigued.

Blackie has been doing his thang in Htown for years now.

There appear to be two blackies (that sounds bad).

There's Blackie

and then there's B L A C K I E.

Blackie:


And B L A C K I E


Looks like the one Bytor's talkin' bout is from Houston though, so I gotcha.

Sometimes I don't even know why I say stuff.

Wow, he was born in '87? That actually makes him kind of an old fart as far as modern up-and-coming musicians go.

Makes me practically geriatric.

The Return of Chief Keef
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/05/c...urn-interview/

Thought it was a very good read.

LOL :D

That's shit journalism, bro. Even for music journalism, which is rather shit as a rule.

Case in point:


** Emphasis not added.

Then, in that RED, BOLD "hi-jacked" but, they provide a hyperlink to an article about... Keef feeling honored to get the remix, and having ample opportunity to drop new bars for the Cuel Summer version.

Bah. That's bad slant-writing. With a bad slant. Doesn't even make sense. Yes, poor Chief Keef. :rolleyes:

Rolling Stones' 100 Greatest Hip-Hop Songs of All Time

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/li...l-time-w435246

(Spoiler: This list is terrible.)

Uhhh... they called "Ni**as in Paris" a "minimalist" song.

BAAAA-HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

What the FUCK? "Ni**as..." and, indeed, ALL of Watch the Throne, is as maximalist as Kanye gets. Even more so than MBDTF.

Who the hell writes this shit?

Only counted three Kanye songs, one Jay Z song, two Wu-Tang songs, and a couple Tribe songs. None of these artists were at no. 1. I only skimmed the list, but damn did they leave out a lot of good shit. And "The Message" might be the most influential or important hip-hop song, but NO FUCKING WAY is if the best. Fuck that shit.

I thought it was a decent list, taking into account the now 40+ years of Hip Hop recordings. Fuck Jay Z that overrated asshole SUX and will be completely ignored in 5 years....

The Message is the "best" hip hop song in that it was the first that was not a party record, and the first to hit hard and tell shit like it is, which set the template for most of the hip hop to follow. Not the "best" but the most important, and that means something more than any Jay Z shit track.

there is way to much eminem. There should be NO eminem.

Rolling stone is a magazine for older white folks. they "asked " people from the hip hop world to give their top songs but Rolling Stone producers mold and shape the list to suit their readers/advertisers.

I agree. There should be no Eminem. I guess I can see including a song like "My Name Is," because that was just such a huge fucking moment, andir was something new and iconic and, at the time, rather weird. But "Stan?" Come the film on. That song has always been god awful and terrible and cheesy and stupid as fuck.

And "Lose Yourself" and it's sister anthem "Sing for the Moment" honestly have more in common with bad white rural rock music than they do with hip-hop. Those songs are what drew hillbillies to awful white rap-rock, from Uncle Cracker to Crazy Town. Jesus. Terrible music. It's basically just a slightly less rocky Kid Rock, that shit. It's arena crossover rap. Appeals to fans of the dumbest buttrock in the world.