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AllHandsOnTheBigOne 04.20.2007 06:48 PM

Isn't Anything is a piece of shit compared to Loveless. Come on.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 04.20.2007 06:53 PM

No it isn't. It is a great album. It might not be as surreal sounding, but the songs on Isn't Anything still rule.

Feed Me With Your Kiss, You Never Should, All I Need, and Sueisfine are some of my favorite MBV songs.

therealglenstyler 04.21.2007 05:15 AM

Enya with guitars. I love half of isn't anything and all of loveless but i think i love the half of isn't anything more intensely than the whole of loveless, however the rest of isn't anything is so bad it cripples my adoration and drags it ultimately into second place.

auto-aim 04.21.2007 08:13 AM

I always wished that Off Yer Face was on loveless - other than that I think it's the far superior album by almost every respect... without that album i dont think I'd site them as a major influence for me - I'd just think they were a really good band which isn't enough... It's like about about what it's intending and what it achieves and all of this kind of stuff.

Neongod 04.21.2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Loveless is the more ambitious but has far too many fillers. would've been an absolute masterpiece if it'd been released as a four track EP or something.


Agreed. That's why I'll say neither and go with Tremelo.

king_buzzo 04.21.2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
No it isn't. It is a great album. It might not be as surreal sounding, but the songs on Isn't Anything still rule.

Feed Me With Your Kiss, You Never Should, All I Need, and Sueisfine are some of my favorite MBV songs.


I'm agreeing, but I can't pick one. They're both equally great.
I prefer Isn't Anything when walking, going to school and such, because the songs are faster and shorter.

My favourites from both albums:
Isn't Anything:
Cupid Come
When You Wake
Feed Me...
Sueisfine
Several girls galore
Nothing Much to loose

Loveless:
Only Shallow
When You Sleep
Soon
Sometimes

luxinterior 04.21.2007 12:05 PM

I haven't listened to either in a long time and I probably won't again anytime soon.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.21.2007 12:08 PM

for me it's loveless

PAULYBEE2656 04.21.2007 12:14 PM

i bought loveless on the day of release in 91. i was blown away by it then and i am still blown away by it now. it has not one dud song, absolutely no fillers (maybe colms little bit of noise but thats only short) it has the dancable floor filler of soon and it has the most beautiful song ever written in sometimes. its in my top 3 albums of all time and it will remain there for all eternity...

isnt anything is also wonderful, its also a great album but not as great as the 4 creation eps and the glider full length ep. those collective recordings are amazing......

the love of loveless hs a lot to do with age. folk of my age group and slightly older (40-30) will love loveless as we basically found something memorable in our youth. anyone under the age of 25 may not hear what we heard in that album...... ages 25-29 are just fence sitters!!!!!! thats just my theory on it!

the greatest album made by an irish band ever (yeah i know 2 of em are english but kevin and colm and the name mybloodyvalentine are irish and will be always)!!!

NWRA 04.21.2007 01:05 PM

yeah, I'm not bothered about half of the tracks on Isn't Anything and on Loveless (they're good and add to the mood yet they're not memorable songs), and I think the other half are outstanding. Actually, To Here Knows When and Sometimes are enough to make Loveless a classic on their own (by my definition anyway).

I think their best EP is You Made Me Realise. I love Thorn and Slow and Cigarette In Your Bed.

PAULYBEE2656 04.21.2007 01:10 PM

slow. a song that actually bends time.....

Everyneurotic 04.21.2007 01:31 PM

as much as a cliche as it is, i like loveless better by a slight hair, it's one of my most listened albums ever. it's a think of it's own, it's almost like the band isn't as important as the sound on the album, while isn't anything is my bloody valentine doing an album.

yes, i'm not too cool to acknowledge it. although it is overrated, people always mention that album and kinda denies not only mbv's other output but similar bands'; it's a case where overrated doesn't mean bad, it just mean "too much"

also, every time i listen to it, a different song stands out, for me it was first only shallow, then to here knows when, then when you sleep, then loomer. then sometimes and now it's what you want...the only song i think is a filler and for which i didn't like mbv for so long as it was the first song of theirs i heard, is soon; now i think it's ok, but i used to think it was the most boring song in the world.

you made me realize is probably my favorite mbv song (along with what you want)

Derek 04.21.2007 01:33 PM

Loveless is miles better than Isn't Anything. There is no comparison.

nomowish 04.21.2007 04:59 PM

God bless you IA lovers. Though I have a feeling that if Bilinda sang 50% or more of the songs by herself, then I'd feel a hell of a lot better about it. Kevin sounds pretty Emo here.

PAULYBEE2656 04.21.2007 05:08 PM

kevin sheilds sounding emo...
there is a sentence i thought id never read....

repped! i disagree with you but repped for the quality of the sentence!

LDopa 04.21.2007 06:29 PM

Loveless is so much better it's not even funny. I don't like Isn't Anything all that much, first song is great but then it just goes downhill.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 04.21.2007 06:58 PM

What is with all these people coming out of the woodwork to insult Isn't Anything?

Loveless is more coherent but Isn't Anything has much better songs. It is as simple as that.

Someone give me one freaking reason that Feed Me With Your Kiss isn't awesome. Or Sueisfine. Or All I Need. Or You Never Should. Or Lose My Breath.

There isn't a single bad song on Isn't Anything, and there are some really good ones.

Some atleast give some arguments for not liking Isn't Anything besides "half the songs suck."

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 04.21.2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NWRA
This Is Your Bloody Valentine is poor. It sounds like the band (particularly Dave Conway, the singer at that time) are imitating The Cramps or The Birthday Party; imitating them badly. There are clips here (try Forever And Again, to hear their camp gothic sound at its worst).

However, their earlier work isn't all bad. The Sunny Sundae Smile EP also features Conway on vocals; he sings normally on it (in fact, he sounds like Shields), and its very, very good. The title track, Kiss The Eclipse and Paint A Rainbow are as good as anything from Isn't Anything/Loveless in my opinion.

Then, Conway left, and they made Ecstasy and Wine and so on...


I like This Is Your My Bloody Valentine in that it is a sort of campy almost psychobilly sounding effort. It makes me giggle that they originally did that sort of stuff.

LittlePuppetBoy 04.21.2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by therealglenstyler
Enya with guitars.


Hey! That's what I found they sound like too.

Both albums are great. Wasn't there already a thread on this same subject a few months ago?

Style 04.21.2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Neongod
and go with Tremelo.


my sentiments exactly.


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