I remember this coming up before and how a few of us (myself mostly) got the shit kicked out of us for mentioning Liars and Lightning Bolt. And I now agree. While they're noisy, I don't think of them as noise rock, like Wolf Eyes et al.

cue theme musik for "Dallas" and have a 6-pack

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Merzbow is really, really good. That guy blows my mind more than any other musician in history. Sure, I like other artists much more, but his sheer bizarre genius is mind-bottling. He's made more weird sounds than the Velvets, SY, Wolf Eyes, The Swans, Glenn Branca, etc. combined.

After 5 minutes of listening to his "music" I have to turn it off because it's all too much!!!

sorry, some self-promotion here, but im very proud of this release on my label:

if you want to hear cutting edge noise-rock, then i highly recommend this tripple LP. it is called Pisspounder and features LP sides by Sword Heaven, Aa, Foot Village, Grey Skull, Rainbow Blanket, & Dreamhouse.

http://deathbombarc.com/releases/dba044.htm

Oh fuck...The Goslings. Get Grandeur of Hair...so damn good.

what are that group dreamhouse like, do they have a website or myspace or anything because i've been meaning to check them out?

they've always had basicly zero web pressence. but here is a video of them in belgium that i archived from the old ecstatic peace site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBiXlSXa6nI

besides the pisspounder thing, i have copies of their 12" in my distro if you are interested.

well, most people here are talking about noise noise, noise rock i think are more like jesus lizard, unsane, cows, sun city girls, smegma, caroliner, arab on radar, harry pussy, rose for boudan etc. you know, rock bands who play with noisy elements, they still retain some sort of structures instead of being linear, etc.

yeah! you warm my heart!
http://roseforbohdan.tk/

then everybody hugged, 'raciscm is god' = one of the best of '06

woah!!!
insane!!!!
thank you!!!
our next one will be even better! i promise!

FYI - i think we're gonna break up, and reform under a new name... we're tired of dragging around 10 years of history. time for a fresh start.

you post encouraged me to get off my ass and post this other video i have, of Dreamhouse and Foot Village collabing together. also has footage of kpop-ish band My Little Red Toe:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ccnFTB_tWTw

yeah, i was really surprised when i found out you were around for so long.

anyway, as long as you keep the music good i'm behind you guys.

Well, it really sounds like the original post was open to either or both. Most of us are too, but it's kind of funny how desperately people need to push stuff into one camp or the other (not dissing you EvN, you aren't particularly at fault).

Certainly stuff like Confusion is Sex or early Melvins fits neatly into noise rock, but plenty of rock artists have done full on noise records from Reed's Metal Machine Music to the Silver Sessions.

Then there are people like Man is the Bastard/Bastard Noise who walk both sides under a couple names (excellent shit too.) Of course Bastard Noise's greatest moment (to me) is RRRevenge which they're label dumped for not being "a noise enough" record. It never ceases to amaze me how with ever movement in art towards the freedom to break out of conventional structures, there are those who embrace the new language(s) as a means to create brand new cages.

well, the guy responded to my post of "you want noise rock or noise noise?" by saying that noise rock since he likes swans and stuff like that, so i thought it would be stupid to recommend him sutcliffe jügend and incapacitants to him is he's looking for something with structure and rock instrumentation.

the only difference i make between the two (if you like) is on the song structures/arrangements, when it comes to noise, other than harshness.

you can take amm and nihilist spasm band and the like and debate whether they are rock bands playing noise or noise bands with rock instrumentation (or avant garde ensembles or post free jazz combos, etc). my point was with this thread specifically.

anyway.

curse of the birthmark.

oh and yeah, props to the people who love the goslings. my other band robe. is actually doing a split with em. good people.

holy shit adam!! congratulations!

Hototogishu. All the noise you'll evere need. Complete formless, wandering noise. Fatastic.

it was actually really easy.

we just emailed em, said we were fans, traded some stuff, and are doing a split. we finished our side, they just need to finish theirs. yep yep.

really easy to work with and good people.