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andrei 12.19.2007 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by king-buzzo
Who was the first?
Who did it better?


Gastr Del Sol

Savage Clone 12.19.2007 01:12 PM

It was invented by the executives at Windham Hill in an effort to appeal to a younger deomgraphic.

batreleaser 12.19.2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
From my post on the iheartnoise forum:

Why do people always make a note of hating the name of a genre? From IDM to no wave to post rock, everyone takes exception with the names of genres. I was on some message board for this Japanese band the other day, and some guy said "yeah, they remind me of a lot of math rock bands.." and some guy goes into like 3 paragraphs about how dumb the term math rock is. Jesus, it's just a broad term to describe a sound, who gives a shit what it's called?

I know what people are saying; "math" rock.. every rock is "mathy", it all involves counting and numbers, but the DEFINITION of math rock is: highly technical music with lots of time changes, etc. etc etc. Same for something like IDM... IDM definitely sounds different than, say, house music. Why pay attention to the genre name?



agreed, genre names make life easier, there is no band that is totally "unclassifiable", well maybe some, but if so its very few. IDM however is one of the genre names that I really like, "intelligent dance music". It sounds very fiting. Aphex, Autectre, Squarepusher, Boards of Canada, and most of the WARP roster are definiteley dance music, but far more intricate and interesting than youre standard Chicago Acid House group. Speaking of Squarepusher, anyone know if hes comin out with anyything in the future?

Torn Curtain 12.19.2007 02:57 PM

Post-rock is said to originate with Laughing stock and Spiderland, but I think The Durutti Column, or even Neu! or Can could fit the definition.

Glice 12.19.2007 03:06 PM

This thread makes me think I should take out my Christmas bonus and blow* it all down the whore-house on that cute Welsh lass with the chunky ass.



*I'm well aware of the irony in using this word, thanks.

king_buzzo 12.19.2007 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Anyway, post rock and math rock are some of the worst musical terminology (IDM too) ever coined by anyone, ever.


i like the term math rock, but the post rock term sucks ass.

uhler 12.19.2007 04:41 PM

minor threat did

demonrail666 12.19.2007 06:02 PM

The term Electronica came about when a group of, primarily European, musicians decided in the early 90s to 'play around' with Detroit Techno in an attempt to create tracks more suited to chill-out rooms than to the dancefloor. By taking the music away from its original function of danceability these artists were able to experiment with more abstract, often a-rhythmical, drum patterns, etc. This led to an interest in certain types of modern classical and jazz music which in turn lent the music a more 'high brow' status.

I agree almost entirely with what Sarramkrop has said about The Chemical Brothers. Just to add a few points though: that they came from (or at least became associated with) a growing interest among 'rock types', who liked the idea of dance music, but couldn't deal with the faceless DJ thing and lack of 'authentic' instruments. They (along with such 'bands' as The Prodigy, The Orb and Orbital) managed to overcome this by providing spectacular live shows with a sound that fused (as Sarramkrop has said) Techno, Hip Hop, Rock, Dub and Pop influences. In many ways they were trying to re-ignite the earlier energy and euphoria of late 80s Acid House (or, in the case of The Orb, the more blissed out feel of the chill out room) but in a way that could be packaged more easily into a 'gig' format, thus accommodating a new, traditionally non club-going, audience. However, most people with any interest in original House and Techno looked down on this scene. Recognising it as the rather cynical attempt at commodifying the earlier Rave scene that it was.

flophousefloozie 12.19.2007 06:22 PM

No matter who you vote for, you must remember the history of America. To vote "brits" would only make sense.

Inhuman 12.19.2007 06:52 PM

O-Town

the ikara cult 12.19.2007 07:06 PM

OPM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2a8mccuJY

Onani Nic 12.19.2007 08:18 PM

The Meatmen.

ZEROpumpkins 12.19.2007 08:36 PM

Television

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.19.2007 10:22 PM

Some asshole music journalist invented post-rock

Cantankerous 12.19.2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
are you asking who invented instrumental music?

um, cavemen
therefore cavemen invented post rock

ZEROpumpkins 12.19.2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Some asshole music journalist invented post-rock

Actually that's true.

king_buzzo 12.20.2007 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Some asshole music journalist invented post-rock


goes for loads of other genres. like shoegaze.

ZEROpumpkins 12.20.2007 03:15 AM

And grunge.
Zeppelin invented Heavy Metal though.

king_buzzo 12.20.2007 03:17 AM

m? they coined it?

or you mean, just the sound?


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