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Cantankerous 03.20.2008 07:42 AM

i can't think of them as shoegaze. they just seem to be way too poppy and coherent.

RdTv 03.20.2008 07:48 AM

^Lush?

RdTv 03.20.2008 07:49 AM

If you go back and listen to ''Spooky'' it is indeed very shoegaze, no more ''poppy'' than alot of the tracks off Loveless

Cantankerous 03.20.2008 08:18 AM

yeah
i think im thinking more about songs like desire lines and kiss chase though
like on split

demonrail666 03.20.2008 08:28 AM

The funniest thing about the whole shoegazing thing was how keen bands associated with it were to distance themselves from it's name. Same thing with Emo.

Cantankerous 03.20.2008 08:43 AM

see like i dont care. label me whatever you want. it has nothing to do with the reality of it.

demonrail666 03.20.2008 08:51 AM

That was meant as a general observation about bands, not anyone's personal tastes. Anyway, speaking of labels, for about a half an hour this morning, I thought I was a goth. Then I realised that it was only because the bulb in my light had popped and that my plunge into darkness had absolutely nothing to do with a sudden need to listen to Dead Can Dance. To say I'm relieved is an understatement. Now, where did I put my DVD of A Nightmare Before Christmas?

Cantankerous 03.20.2008 08:55 AM

hahaha goths
let's sing like an exaggerated version of DAAAYVID BO-WEE on all of our records and wuffle on about bela lugosi

haha i love bauhaus and all that good old shit.

sarramkrop 03.20.2008 08:56 AM

Lush were lumped with the rest of the shoegazing brigade and share quite a few elements of that sound, inneeeee guv? Their take on it was much more sparkling and poppy than others, though.

Cantankerous 03.20.2008 08:58 AM

see? exactly the point i was trying to make. they utilised much cleaner production methods, probably spent a good amount of time at the mixing board. sounds crispy.

demonrail666 03.20.2008 09:02 AM

From memory, didn't a large part of Lush's appeal stem from countless young male NME readers having a crush on Miki? Same with Slowdive.

Either way, it was fun while it lasted, and nice to dwell on past memories of suede boots, Rickenbackers and floppy fringes.

By the way, has anyone mentioned The Spitfires yet?

Savage Clone 03.20.2008 09:04 AM

I saw Lush with Slowdive when "Gala" was big, and I definitely saw them as part of the shoegaze thing. Later on not so much, but later on Ride wasn't too shoegazery anymore either.

Definitely not shoegazers:
JAMC
Spacemen 3
Loop
Cocteau Twins

Influences on that scene, yes, but not shoegaze bands.

Cantankerous 03.20.2008 09:05 AM

miki berenyi was cute, wasn't she always wearing sparkles and miniskirts and the like?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I saw Lush with Slowdive when "Gala" was big, and I definitely saw them as part of the shoegaze thing. Later on not so much, but later on Ride wasn't too shoegazery anymore either.

Definitely not shoegazers:
JAMC
Spacemen 3
Loop
Cocteau Twins

Influences on that scene, yes, but not shoegaze bands.


loop were way too agressive to be shoegaze

sarramkrop 03.20.2008 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
miki berenyi was cute, wasn't she always wearing sparkles and miniskirts and the like?



loop were way too agressive to be shoegaze


I've spotted here in Camden Town at the time when Lush made the big chart breakthrough with Single Girl, Fiat 500, Ladykillers etc. She is really sweet looking.

_slavo_ 03.20.2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
miki berenyi was cute, wasn't she always wearing sparkles and miniskirts and the like?


word. half Japanese-half Hungarian.

 

Cantankerous 03.20.2008 09:11 AM

porky:

is she? that'd be around 1995 or 1996 yeah?
ive heard somewhere of someone seeing bilinda on a train somewhere and she's still hot?
i'm going to find out in a few months! AND theyre coming to the states and i am soooo happy

demonrail666 03.20.2008 09:15 AM

In Britain, the shoegazing thing quickly got dubbed 'the scene that celebrates itself', because 90% of the audience at a gig for a shoegazing band was made up of members from other shoegazing bands. Miki from Lush being a particular ficture at venues throughout the early 90s.

sarramkrop 03.20.2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
porky:

is she? that'd be around 1995 or 1996 yeah?
ive heard somewhere of someone seeing bilinda on a train somewhere and she's still hot?
i'm going to find out in a few months! AND theyre coming to the states and i am soooo happy


Yes, at that time. That Ladykillers tune was also used as a theme for either a tv advert or tv drama, if memory doesn't fail me. Get this, Lush were riding on the crest of Britpop for a while.

sarramkrop 03.20.2008 09:18 AM

Cathedral Of Sound

demonrail666 03.20.2008 09:20 AM

Catherine Wheel. Weren't they considered shoegazers for a while? I know they were crap, but I can't recall whether they were shoegazers too.


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