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LittlePuppetBoy 04.22.2008 06:38 PM

Loveless (but then again, that would probably make it impossible to hear the melodies)

atsonicpark 04.22.2008 06:55 PM

Loveless should be LESS produced?!?!?!?!?

It should be more produced, if anything. The drums sound like SHIT.

the ikara cult 04.22.2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Loveless should be LESS produced?!?!?!?!?

It should be more produced, if anything. The drums sound like SHIT.


This is why i cant wait to see MBV in June; The production of Loveless is so shit that it must sound best live.

pbradley 04.22.2008 07:06 PM

Suagr's Copper Blue.

batreleaser 04.22.2008 08:03 PM

i love the first liars ablum. dont think its too or not enough produced, sounds just right. their production is always pretty good in the context of the tunes their making. just their record last year was a major misstep, waaaaaaaaaay over produced. they said they wanted to make an ablum that sounded like nirvana, siouxie and the banshees, the smiths, and guns n roses, and instead they made an ablum that sounded like shit.

pbradley 04.22.2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
they said they wanted to make an ablum that sounded like.... guns n roses, and instead they made an ablum that sounded like shit.

So you're saying they were at least partially successful?

dionysusundone 04.22.2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
So you're saying they were at least partially successful?


BURN.

gmku 04.22.2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Torn Curtain
In my opinion those are albums with good songwriting but they would have been better with a more stripped-down production:

Tim Buckley - Goodbye & hello
St Vincent - Marry me
Pink Floyd - Dark side of the moon
The Beatles - Let it be
Nick Drake - Bryter later (at least on half the songs, the other half is fine as it is)

Feel free to post your own list :)


I'm only familiar with Let It Be and DSOTM, but I'd disagree strongly. Production is what makes those albums great. Contrary to conventional wisdom, what Spector did for Let It Be was indeed an improvment, and DSOTM would be boring and pedestrian without the production/engineering.

ZEROpumpkins 04.22.2008 09:43 PM

Psychocandy by Jesus and Mary Chain.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY too much reverb.

forkimified 04.22.2008 09:51 PM

I thought Rather Ripped was a pretty bare-bones album :/
Just sounded... really clear.

Basically, I'd say most albums touched by Andy Wallace. With an exception of Faith No More's King For A Day... album, which is one of my all-time favourites.

batreleaser 04.23.2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
So you're saying they were at least partially successful?



appetite for destruction is incredible, so no.

batreleaser 04.23.2008 01:12 AM

the reverb on psychocandy was fucking awesome i think. i love how in some of the songs if you listen with headphones the background screams and reverb sort of mesh together.

Cantankerous 04.23.2008 01:25 AM

dark side is perfect the way it is


hole - celebrity skin
nirvana - nevermind

vulva 04.23.2008 01:29 AM

Megadeth - The System Has Failed. That is a text book example of over production utterly killing anything good on an album.

SonicBebs 04.23.2008 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by the ikara
...and finally. Ive always hated the production of Sister. Its crap. I dont like it. Noone agrees with me. Oh well.


i'm with you on that, although the songs carry it off. I was thinking the other day it'd be good to hear it re-recorded in their own studio, make it a bit less muddy

And agree with Neon Bible too, and parts of Copper Blue (except The Way We Act which is fucking perfect)

forkimified 04.23.2008 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I'm only familiar with Let It Be and DSOTM, but I'd disagree strongly. Production is what makes those albums great. Contrary to conventional wisdom, what Spector did for Let It Be was indeed an improvment, and DSOTM would be boring and pedestrian without the production/engineering.


I've been listening to DSOTM probably since I was in kindergarden or so...
I kind of think of it as the ultimate example of a studio album done RIGHT. The album as a work of art itself, not just a collection of the band's songs.

It's something where I'd listen to the CD but probably would never want to hear live, because it would probably never live up to the album.
But, most bands, I just want to hear what they'd play live, but well recorded and all the parts clearly audible. Sometimes, crazy production works, but a lot of times it just sounds like they're trying to needlessly fancy up something that doesn't need fancying, thus making it sound dumb. The production tricks of the day sometimes also just date the bands more than a raw sound would.

dressedindreams 04.23.2008 04:16 AM

most nick cave albums.
and the latest frog eyes album. there is just way too much going on.

Death & the Maiden 04.23.2008 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Psychocandy by Jesus and Mary Chain.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY too much reverb.

I think it has just enough reverb and white noise.
Anyway, The Cure - Faith
None of the songs (except for a one or two) stand out, they just sound too similar. Maybe I don't really like it because it was released in between Seventeen Seconds and Pornography, and I had high expectations for it.

Death & the Maiden 04.23.2008 05:02 AM

The Cure - Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
Primal Scream - Screamadelica

Torn Curtain 04.23.2008 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I'm only familiar with Let It Be and DSOTM, but I'd disagree strongly. Production is what makes those albums great. Contrary to conventional wisdom, what Spector did for Let It Be was indeed an improvment, and DSOTM would be boring and pedestrian without the production/engineering.


The long and winding road on Anthology 3 proves my point (the version on Let it be is sugary and cheesy, the version on Anthology 3 is magnificent).

Regarding Dark side of the moon some of the effects are over the top, when you just hear Gilmour playing the songs like on the Live at Pompei or the Classic albums documentary it's much better.


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