Well, I know they were always like that to an extent, but after the self-titled album that element of the band severely decreased. Which is sad, because as stupid and neandrethal as it was, slipknot's self-titled had some almost-brilliant almost-modern-classical sounding intros to some of their songs. Very creepy and disturbing and they did some stuff that sounds like nothing I've ever heard, especially from a mainstream nu metal shitty band. Listen to "scissors".. that song is terrifying. A lot of that can probably be traced back to Ross Robinson, who is a pretty brilliant producer, like him or not.

But anyway, after that album, they pretty much JUST became dancers and shit.

I never understood slipknot... two guys who can barely play guitar (one of the guys seems to come up with some catchy and inventive riffs though but the other guy is pointless), a bassist I've never been able to hear period, 2 dancers, a guy who PRESSES A BUTTON (seriously, the "sampler" of this band, he has a big red metal box in front of him with a big red button he presses once about every 5 songs), and a DJ who is almost never used except on the early stuff. That leaves 3 non-pointless members, though Cory is a pretty crappy vocalist.

Anyway, all 9 of them are millionaires.

ohhh you meant on record.

yeah, they used to be polyrhythmic.

the self titled is a really good album, i still listen to it; iowa is ok, the subliminal whatever was retarded though the single was the only good song (you know, they always have a song that's exactly the same as "wait and bleed", iowa had "left behind", the third album had "duality"). i downloaded the new one but haven't listened to it yet.

From the few songs I've heard, the new one sounds pretty damn good, wait better than vol. 3.

I love self-titled.. prosthetics is GREAT.