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Rob Instigator 09.22.2008 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Well, I'm not sure what a music's "feel" is, honestly.

And the lyrics aren't any more punk than a tame Rage Against the Machine or something. The Crass lyrical comparison is good I guess, but that doesn't make Paranoid a punk album. If punk is an attitude, they're kinda punk sure. But so are lots of non-punk bands. Hell, Wolf Eyes is sorta punk.

And then there's great lyrics like this:
"I LOVE YOU!!!!!!
WHEN I FIRST MET YOU!
DIDN'T REALIZE!!!!!!!"

swetleaf rules

Pookie 09.22.2008 05:09 PM
You're all gonna feel fools when you sober up.

gualbert 09.22.2008 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by batreleaser
i think black sabbath might be the band that we all agree is amazing, correct?

Nah.
Sonic Youth , maybe.

batreleaser 09.22.2008 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gualbert
Nah.
Sonic Youth , maybe.

haha, unfourtnately at times theres people who come on this board to talk about how much they hate sonic youth.

gualbert 09.22.2008 05:36 PM
Quite right.
There's no band that everybody likes.

Pookie 09.22.2008 05:37 PM
Surely we all like Dinosaur?

atsonicpark 09.22.2008 05:38 PM
No. I don't like Dinosaur Jr at all besides a few songs on you're living all over me and bug. Hayden doesn't like 'em either.

The only band we all like to some extent is probably my bloody valentine, who I don't think are THAT great but I do enjoy isn't anything and you made me realize.

Also, Lightning Bolt and Ruins.. I've never seen anyone say anything bad about them.

Pookie 09.22.2008 05:41 PM
I know I've said how shit Lightning Bolt and MBV are. Several times.

If not, I'm saying it now.

LittlePuppetBoy 09.22.2008 05:48 PM
, while this is possible due to the song Paranoid, I don't know if could consider it a punk album because most of the songs are quite slow, complex, and I don't think Planet Caravan can be considered a punk song

sarramkrop 09.22.2008 05:49 PM
Pull my arms so strongly they detach from my body.

Pookie 09.22.2008 05:49 PM
We've moved on from the dumb original question to talking about shit bands we think are shit, shit-for-brains.

EDIT: Obviously not aimed at porky, but at the preceding twat.

atsonicpark 09.22.2008 06:17 PM
Hah.

chairman of the bored 09.22.2008 07:42 PM
sorry to stray from the new sub-topic. but you definitely have to differentiate between the punk aesthetic, which is a title for a certain mentality that has probably been around for longer than people can document, and punk music which i would say definitely excludes black sabbath.

batreleaser 09.22.2008 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
No. I don't like Dinosaur Jr at all besides a few songs on you're living all over me and bug. Hayden doesn't like 'em either.

The only band we all like to some extent is probably my bloody valentine, who I don't think are THAT great but I do enjoy isn't anything and you made me realize.

Also, Lightning Bolt and Ruins.. I've never seen anyone say anything bad about them.

lightnign bolt definitley, because theyve tapped into the pitchfork media/indie crowd while keeping the noise/noise rock/no wave fans.

i have two friends who know ruins, one of whom doesnt like them, im sure there's a lot of people who could find themselves annoyed by brutal prog bass/drums lineupp.

boredoms is a band ive never known of someone who's known and disliked,

Cantankerous 09.22.2008 09:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Lightning Bolt

HAAAAAAAAATE

Everyneurotic 09.22.2008 10:06 PM
genres genres genres.

labels labels labels.

sabbath are awesome, influenced everyone after them; case dismissed.

uhler 09.22.2008 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
cuz crass, subhumans and aus rotten are boring?

subhumans are pretty boring i think, but crass and aus rotten are amazing.

crass>black sabbath>aus rotten>subhumans

uhler 09.22.2008 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by batreleaser
lightnign bolt definitley, because theyve tapped into the pitchfork media/indie crowd while keeping the noise/noise rock/no wave fans.

i have two friends who know ruins, one of whom doesnt like them, im sure there's a lot of people who could find themselves annoyed by brutal prog bass/drums lineupp.

boredoms is a band ive never known of someone who's known and disliked,

yeah i don't know anyone that doesn't like the boredoms.

uhler 09.23.2008 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by swa(y)
i think aus rotten are kinda boring. i like 'em in high school. havent listened to em much since.

crass = amazing. still listen to them a pretty good bit. one of my fav. "punk" bands.

sub hum ans got really old really fast. i bought from the cradle to the grave and the day the country died in high school. i dont think i listened to either of them more than a few times. i seem to remember subvert city being the only song i liked by them.

i had the day the country died and thought it was boring. not bad just boring and then i saw them live and they were really boring live.

repeater 09.23.2008 01:59 AM
Paranoid came a couple of years after stooges, blue cheer, mc5 and one billion garage "punk" bands, so no; paranoid wasnīt the first punk album. Itīs great but not punk.


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