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acousticrock87 06.06.2006 04:42 PM

I think our generation spans everyone born from about 1980-2000.

johnnywinternoshow 06.06.2006 04:48 PM

FUCK, so I'm in the emo kid generation? I thought my generation had nothing to offer, now I know it. I often wonder when we'll get our musical revolution
50s=elvis
60s=beatles, hippys
70s=punk,sabbath,zep
80s=joy division, hardcore, goth
90s=grunge, aphex twin, prodigy
00s=umm... uninspired rehashes of above generations? It's the same in cinema, probably about 30% of all movies in cinemas these days are remakes or sequels

Glice 06.06.2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnywinternoshow
FUCK, so I'm in the emo kid generation? I thought my generation had nothing to offer, now I know it. I often wonder when we'll get our musical revolution
50s=elvis
60s=beatles, hippys
70s=punk,sabbath,zep
80s=joy division, hardcore, goth
90s=grunge, aphex twin, prodigy
00s=umm... uninspired rehashes of above generations? It's the same in cinema, probably about 30% of all movies in cinemas these days are remakes or sequels


You know that thing about 'whoever won the war writes the history'? Well, the historical revisionists of modern times are BORING OLD MEN WITH THEIR STUPID BORING STUPID BLOKE MUSIC STUPID.

Look... there is, was, and ever shall be shit music in every generation. For every one Jimi Hendrix there are a million Adam Faiths. I can't stand Hendrix, but don't lets let that interfere with the point - the point is that it's easy to look back on the musical fashions of yesteryear and forget quite how much shit there is around.

A personal observation - all the of the generation old enough to be 'into' the first wave of British punk (so, they were 17-25 in 76/77) think that punk is shit. The kids who were a little younger think punks the shit, and post-punk/ baggy/ goth/ new-wave is shit (etc etc). My brother is the grunge generation - he saw Nirvana on the Bleach tour. He thought they were shit. He thinks all grunge is shit. The historical revisionists are the people who try and create the idea that there was a better 'scene' than there ever was. There rarely is a scene, it's nearly always a creation of rose-tinted glasses wearing wankers without careers and NME journalists.

No generation has anything particularly... I have plenty of friends across most generations... the jazz generation of the 50's through to kids now. And I can say, pretty safely, that save for a few bores, most of them just enjoy what they enjoy, and don't care about some journalistic edifice.

PLEASE KIDS, ENJOY BEING YOUNG, AND DON'T EVER WISH YOU WERE IN ANOTHER GENERATION.

Phew. Sorry, gets my goat this one...

johnnywinternoshow 06.06.2006 05:14 PM

i guess you're right, for every beatles there's 10 times more monkees but I just can't see much exciting in music these days apart from SY, radiohead and other bands that started up in the early 90s. What i'm getting at is since I've been old enough to go to gigs there hasn't been many band that have done anything new or interesting

porkmarras 06.06.2006 05:18 PM

I haven't a generation.Just bills.Die.

A Thousand Threads 06.06.2006 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnywinternoshow
i guess you're right, for every beatles there's 10 times more monkees but I just can't see much exciting in music these days apart from SY, radiohead and other bands that started up in the early 90s. What i'm getting at is since I've been old enough to go to gigs there hasn't been many band that have done anything new or interesting

that´s just not true

A Thousand Threads 06.06.2006 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
You know that thing about 'whoever won the war writes the history'? Well, the historical revisionists of modern times are BORING OLD MEN WITH THEIR STUPID BORING STUPID BLOKE MUSIC STUPID.

Look... there is, was, and ever shall be shit music in every generation. For every one Jimi Hendrix there are a million Adam Faiths. I can't stand Hendrix, but don't lets let that interfere with the point - the point is that it's easy to look back on the musical fashions of yesteryear and forget quite how much shit there is around.

A personal observation - all the of the generation old enough to be 'into' the first wave of British punk (so, they were 17-25 in 76/77) think that punk is shit. The kids who were a little younger think punks the shit, and post-punk/ baggy/ goth/ new-wave is shit (etc etc). My brother is the grunge generation - he saw Nirvana on the Bleach tour. He thought they were shit. He thinks all grunge is shit. The historical revisionists are the people who try and create the idea that there was a better 'scene' than there ever was. There rarely is a scene, it's nearly always a creation of rose-tinted glasses wearing wankers without careers and NME journalists.

No generation has anything particularly... I have plenty of friends across most generations... the jazz generation of the 50's through to kids now. And I can say, pretty safely, that save for a few bores, most of them just enjoy what they enjoy, and don't care about some journalistic edifice.

PLEASE KIDS, ENJOY BEING YOUNG, AND DON'T EVER WISH YOU WERE IN ANOTHER GENERATION.

Phew. Sorry, gets my goat this one...

word

Glice 06.06.2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnywinternoshow
i guess you're right, for every beatles there's 10 times more monkees but I just can't see much exciting in music these days apart from SY, radiohead and other bands that started up in the early 90s. What i'm getting at is since I've been old enough to go to gigs there hasn't been many band that have done anything new or interesting


Ok... You're a nice chap, I'll not be nasty.

But you're wrong. You're looking in the wrong places. Look elsewhere. You want recommendations, there's a load of people here who can tell you what's exciting at the moment. To be honest, I can sympathise with your position. But I stopped listening to purely guitar-based music a long time ago.

Check out some Soukous. Try the local jazz scene (they're often all-ages). Do a bit of research on the internet. Listen to some Gamelan. Try to think of music as something that is made with things, rather than as something made by men with guitars.

golden child 06.06.2006 05:20 PM

im glad there is diversity in generations, then we arent mindless robots. some people are into TOTALLY different things which if fucking SPECTACULAR! it preserves individuality, all the gansters, posers, punks, emos, arts, geeks, beats

ITS ALL COOL!!

Savage Clone 06.06.2006 05:21 PM

If you think there is no exciting music being made by current bands, you are not looking hard enough.

Inhuman 06.06.2006 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheriff Rhys Chatham
Yes, indeed I do.
I don't know what it's like at other schools but it's just full of these 'gangters' who ride yellow school buses. Theres kids who play video games all day, no life, just games. My generation is a corporation's big wish, a bunch of losers working over the grill.
Though there are some good and cool people as well, like you guys!
Oh well.
What can I do?


Well for starters you can get the Daedric Short Sword that has +2 fortify intelligence, but you have to reach level 12 first.

Glice 06.06.2006 05:22 PM

Addendum to previous post: GO OUT AND BUY RECORDS BY THE FALL THEY ARE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.

pantophobia 06.06.2006 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
No way. I don't fit any of the emo or hipster stereotypes.

Hipster trends: yes (i partake in)/ no (that isn't me)
Tight t-shirts: No
Jeans: No
black rimmed glasses: no
dyed hair: no
combs/styles hair: no
heroin addict thin: no
wears stupid hats: no
wears stupid shoes: no
dresses up for shows: no
reads pitchfork/nme: no
drinks pbr: no
prescribes to "hardcore" or "straight edge": no
likes the movie garden state: no
likes independent film and music: yes
spiritual but not religious: no
likes cliche to read books: yes


it's the checklist

Hipster trends: yes (i partake in)/ no (that isn't me)
Tight t-shirts: for the best of everyone no
Jeans: yes
black rimmed glasses: green rimmed actually
dyed hair: no
combs/styles hair: depends
heroin addict thin: not for the last 12 years
wears stupid hats: Washington National caps are not stupid
wears stupid shoes: no
dresses up for shows: no
reads pitchfork/nme: laugh at pitchfork/and not on your life
drinks pbr: i don't want a headache, try nati boh
prescribes to "hardcore" or "straight edge": no
likes the movie garden state: no
likes independent film and music: yes
spiritual but not religious: no
likes cliche to read books: i can barely read

porkmarras 06.06.2006 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Ok... You're a nice chap, I'll not be nasty.

But you're wrong. You're looking in the wrong places. Look elsewhere. You want recommendations, there's a load of people here who can tell you what's exciting at the moment. To be honest, I can sympathise with your position. But I stopped listening to purely guitar-based music a long time ago.

Check out some Soukous. Try the local jazz scene (they're often all-ages). Do a bit of research on the internet. Listen to some Gamelan. Try to think of music as something that is made with things, rather than as something made by men with guitars.

That's a good one.Try to think of music as a purely responsable body of flesh and emotions.A body?A trusted friend?It works!

porkmarras 06.06.2006 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Addendum to previous post: GO OUT AND BUY RECORDS BY THE FALL THEY ARE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.

Even though i'm not always sure about this sort of statement,i think you are shining at the moment.

golden child 06.06.2006 05:25 PM

nme is not very hip, not in the way pitchfork is. nme is appealing to a very different crowd.

finding nobody 06.06.2006 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhuman
Well for starters you can get the Daedric Short Sword that has +2 fortify intelligence, but you have to reach level 12 first.

it don't come easy! you'll find yourself fighting hordes of these dudes before you get anywhere
 

porkmarras 06.06.2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden child
nme is not very hip, not in the way pitchfork is. nme is appealing to a very different crowd.

Do we fucking know that?Have you been reading the nme?

krastian 06.06.2006 05:40 PM

Fight this generation......

johnnywinternoshow 06.06.2006 05:46 PM

I belong to the blank generation and
I can take it or leave it each time


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