make a list and you can have whatever the fuck you want on it.

i do love pig destroyer's "terrifyer" and "phantom limb" quite a bit though.

yeah, wolves in the throne room count. theyre extreme, but they are kind of i duno, "safe". i mean, they are the type of metal band that its ok for indie kids to like, i.e. isis. im looking for the more all out metal records for my personal list, the stuff that those bitchfork faithfuls all scoff at, even though its musically more relevant than whatever of montreal piece of shit record just came out and is guaranteed a spot on the bitchfork top 50. but, if you want to make a list, just whatever sounds extreme to you. by the way, wolves in the throneroom are really good.

why the fuck is no one making lists?

For all of the reasons we have all stated in various posts. Some feel your list is essentially theirs give or take a few bands. Others of us listen to stuff where metal is one side of a two or three-sided coin. I do think of the Melvins, Earth, and Thrones, and yes the Luttenbachers, as metal as well as extreme, but they clearly don't fit your definition, which is cool, but there it is. I don't think of them as just those things, but those things nonetheless.

It's not that I don't listen to more straight up metal, I love Motorhead and Sepultura (though my fave Sepultura is usually the weird experimental/world music crossover stuff, I can't help loving experimental shit, it's who I am) but they come off as pretty classic traditional next to the black/death stuff you list. When I want something more extreme, it just usually goes in the direction of bringing in other influences, like say how Waldteufel does, rather than getting thrashier and more satanic.

You're forgetting Dethklok.

because lists are boring and masturbatory and we've all got better things to do with our lives.

lists are "masturbatory", gimme a fuckin break. theyre fun, nothing more.

and though you don't have time to make lists you do have time to make snide ass remarks that aren't all that funny on a message board.

as much as i like metal, i still can't come up with 20.

"extreme"