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its a bummer, but during every election speach that he gave im pretty sure that he said "16 month plan" and not 12 month.
remember that he didnt put them there, but he is kind enough to start a way to get them out of there. |
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yes I know, and thats why I called bullshit. Bullshitting is not just lying, but here in LA street slang if I call you out for bullshitting, it is equally for lagging or taking to long for no reason as much as for lying. He was honest sure , but his honesty is still bullshit, which was I never supported him, never will, and wish to God people would be just as actively opposed to the war and to the White House as they were against Bush. Nothing has changed except the attitude of the people on the street, but it is the same bullshit in Washington as there ever was, so why is everyone letting their guard down? we need radical peace now. |
Even people trying can't try hard enough for you.
Yes, yes, we love to hear how everybody is a Part Of The Problem and how you have all the answers. ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Do you even realize how fucking insufferably sanctimonious you are? |
fuck radical peace!
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If wanting violence and war to stop absolutely and now rather than tomorrow is insufferably sanctimonious then so be it, but I stand by my word, and you all can think of me what you will, but this war has got to stop, not tomorrow, not in 16 months, right fucking now! I say this without any bitterness nor apologies.. the people trying are not trying hard enough, I-man take the loss of life very very very seriously. |
yes but it should be stopped responsibly. im as against the war as the next guy. but there has to be some kind of transition. . .
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If you can't accept that "out in 16 months" is better than "we will accept no less than Total Victory," you've got your head so far up your ass you won't even be able to see your own white guilt.
Expecting immediacy from government or military is ridiculous. Sometimes "the best you'll get" is what you have to live with. |
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Hippies don't understand man, they just don't. What you been up to man? Any new tracks? |
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Word Plus, during the campaign, O said that we needed to up the force in A'stan even as we reduced it in Iraq. Reality isn't always nice. |
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that attitude is bullshit :( and what does 'white guilt' have to do with the war in Iraq? (I see you are resulting to attacking the messenger for not liking my message, that is fine, but pointlessly naive) I am disappointed, you usually have much more enlightening things to say Savage Clone.. |
You're right; I shouldn't have gotten personal.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Savage Clone again.
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I do not have any guilt of being American. Being guilty for what the vast majority of idiots do is not my fault.
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we all bear this responsibility equally, unless you are in insurgent in Iraq fighting against America, or blowing some shit up like Tim McVey, or at least have wandered off to become an expatriate somewhere, then you are as guilty as sin. Living in the US, buying shit in the US, going to school in the US, voting in the US, watching TV in the US, being an American makes you responsible, after all, it is American weapons and americans wearing american flags that are causing all that fucking drama to begin with, and those soldierboys have the nerve and gall to think they are doing it for me or you! I am guiltier than anyone, and this is why I express this guilt here :( |
Look, war is always going to happen, so that is why I never bought into that peace crap. Frankly it doesn't exist man. There will always be some egomaniac trying to rise to power. That's the nature of humans, we are animals, and we'll always act like that.
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Radical peace is based on the same irrational faith in human goodness that "good-hearted Republicans" use to support Big Business capitalism.
Yes, we want to get the fuck out of Iraq. But "radical peace" does not exist at the magnitude you're calling for. If it ever happens, we'll have to evolve a bit more. I don't know if Obama is doing his best, and he probably has selfish ulterior motives, like every politician. But a strategy based on immediate peace is not going to work. |
You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.
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have we not been entangled in the next and the next war for quite some time now? isn't that what Babylon does for a living? having now admitted to that fact, do you not see how Mr. President had no hope what-so-ever of changing it? the sarcasm of yr OP suggests disappointment. put not yr trust in princes, yo. Quote:
in with the good. out with the bad. there now. relaxed? good. next time, remember to focus on the mantra. om mani padme's poon ![]() |
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I have no idea what was posted.
I was channeling dolphins. by the way, yr great grandmother says "sqeeee sqeeeee chrp". does that mean anything to you? |
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