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floatingslowly 07.29.2009 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
it is right behind musical theatre and lyric poetry!

although I'm with you on this one, I don't have the stamina to last through the withering assault that yr about to receive from all of the drooling musical theatre fans here.

gawdspeed, instigator. gawdspeed.

Rob Instigator 07.29.2009 11:45 AM
Musical Theatre, the last bastion for gangly, pimply, socially awkward high school students.

floatingslowly 07.29.2009 11:50 AM
really? I thought that was WoW. :confused:

Rob Instigator 07.29.2009 11:56 AM
everyone knows WoW is for the aged 30+ set

floatingslowly 07.29.2009 12:00 PM
if by "everybody", you mean "people who really don't know", then, yeah. totally.


ok. I'm starting to disgust myself. I was ok with 'jacking the Michael Jackson thread, but it feels wrong to ruin one for a person who might have meant something to somebody (whatever the hell that something might be, I don't know).

Glice 07.29.2009 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
capital letter Dance (the art form, like mosaics, fresco painting, et c.) holds no cultural relevance anymore. It does not affect the world/public consciousness the same way arts such as music, photography, film, literature Architecture etc currently do.
of course it is just a rise and fall sine wave, but currently, Dance (the art) is nearly dead as far as cultural relevancy goes.

it is right behind musical theatre and lyric poetry!

argue all you want but this is true.

Look, just because you're an American doesn't mean that everyone else is. Just because people don't dance into your field of vision doesn't mean it doesn't happen, or isn't relevent in general. Same with musical theatre. Same with lyric poetry. Same with dageurrotypes, alchemy, opera, l'estampies, mummers, Rosacrucian societies, camera obscura...

The public consciousness has fuck all to do with art. Mercifully. What I'm saying is that if more than one person does it, it's culturally relevent.

Except unicycling.

floatingslowly 07.29.2009 12:12 PM
DEAR POSTER_X: lawlz @ yr neg rep. I'll get you, my pretty. and yr little dog Toto too.


"You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later."

CURSES.

Rob Instigator 07.29.2009 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Glice
Look, just because you're an American doesn't mean that everyone else is. Just because people don't dance into your field of vision doesn't mean it doesn't happen, or isn't relevent in general. Same with musical theatre. Same with lyric poetry. Same with dageurrotypes, alchemy, opera, l'estampies, mummers, Rosacrucian societies, camera obscura...

The public consciousness has fuck all to do with art. Mercifully. What I'm saying is that if more than one person does it, it's culturally relevent.

Except unicycling.

if one person does it, and nobody notices, that is the definition of irrelevance!

kinda like a wolf eyes show!

Glice 07.29.2009 01:13 PM
Well, I don't think Wolf Eyes are irrelevant. I think we can probably agree they're shit though.

Skuj 07.29.2009 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
dance as a culturally relevant art form died around 1914

everything "dance" since then has been a slow progression into total irrelevancy.


is that an unpopular opinion?

It's Dada! :eek:

Skuj 07.29.2009 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Glice
Not so much unpopular as pig-shittingly stupid is what it is. Everyone can, and should, dance. What more cultural relevance do you need?

Anyone Can Play Guitar!

Skuj 07.29.2009 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nicfit
Dunno, I really can't say I know shit about dance, but I see people dancing in every damn pop video and boys dancing on tv and tv shows on dancing, and tv shows for kids on dancing, etc etc, "tribal dances" in documentaries about forgotten tribes, dervishes, tarantella, there's this etoile (Bolle) on many talk shows over here...Seems like dancing is everywhere to me.

Dancing is so much more "natural" than bands with guitars and drums.

I only know Cunningham via one of my idols/heros: John Cage. And what do you know, SNY embraced both. For reasons that make a lot of sense to me, knowing something about SNY and all.

Skuj 07.29.2009 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
people dancing is a persona joy to do.

but as ART, as culturally relevant ART, it is dead.

"Groups with drums and guitars are never going anywhere." (Or something like that.)

I know fuck all about Dance, but Rob, I feel in my heart that you are wrong about this. But it is a joy to see this pov, and I welcome an elaboration/expansion of this opinion. Thanks.

Satan 07.29.2009 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Glice
Well, I don't think Wolf Eyes are irrelevant. I think we can probably agree they're shit though.
this
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Originally Posted by Glice
Not so much unpopular as pig-shittingly stupid is what it is. Everyone can, and should, dance. What more cultural relevance do you need?
this + dancing is awesome. end of.


glice is on a roll

Skuj 07.29.2009 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
his name is Rob Instigator, so at least he's being up front about his tactics.

besides that, fuckwittery is relative. and by that, I mean, Rob's my brother from another mother. he had me at "BECK SUCKS".

Hahahahaha. I think I'm starting to like Rob.

My 15month old son "dances" when any music comes on. Maybe he tries to mimic me, idk.

I have no idea why I posted that.

Skuj 07.29.2009 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
capital letter Dance (the art form, like mosaics, fresco painting, et c.) holds no cultural relevance anymore. It does not affect the world/public consciousness the same way arts such as music, photography, film, literature Architecture etc currently do.
of course it is just a rise and fall sine wave, but currently, Dance (the art) is nearly dead as far as cultural relevancy goes.

it is right behind musical theatre and lyric poetry!

argue all you want but this is true.

Of course, we know that these things are completely dead! ???

Skuj 07.29.2009 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Glice
Look, just because you're an American doesn't mean that everyone else is. Just because people don't dance into your field of vision doesn't mean it doesn't happen, or isn't relevent in general. Same with musical theatre. Same with lyric poetry. Same with dageurrotypes, alchemy, opera, l'estampies, mummers, Rosacrucian societies, camera obscura...

The public consciousness has fuck all to do with art. Mercifully. What I'm saying is that if more than one person does it, it's culturally relevent.

Except unicycling.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Beautiful.

Skuj 07.29.2009 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
if one person does it, and nobody notices, that is the definition of irrelevance!

kinda like a wolf eyes show!

If a tree falls in the forest...........


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