I read this quote by Gerard Way recently - "If for one minute you think you're better than a sixteen year old girl in a Green Day t-shirt, you are sorely mistaken. Remember the first time you went to a show and saw your favorite band. You wore their shirt, and sang every word. You didn't know anything about scene politics, haircuts, or what was cool. All you knew was that this music made you feel different from anyone you shared a locker with. Someone finally understood you. This is what music is about."

I can't stand Green Day either, but I do agree entirely with that statement.

i agree with everything apart from the different in the locker room bit. everyone seems to like green day.

Fuck green day.

Do you ever worry about your penis falling off from being so very, very indie?

my penis gets ever thicker and stronger and more potent from being so very, very indie

I agree with this statement but only to a point as it also applies to any 12-13 year old with any band t, whetrher country or rock or crap, at their first concert. the pooor fools whose first concert was Petra thought that shit was fucking great as well. there is no excuse. green day suck shit beyond all shit suckitude.

This sin't about being indie, I really really REALLY can't stand them.

Yup, my entire 2nd & 3rd year secondary school was that song over & over & over, the song everyone knew how to play on guitar, that & Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd. Thinking of it still stings a little.

But still, I can't summon up the strength to hate them. Fuck it.

I don't like them.

Green Day suck wichever way i look at them.The liking them/thinking they're this or not/Perhaps forgiving them thing doesn't bother me in the slightest.I say they suck,they suck..

I don't think people liking green day has to do with understanding. I know this, actually. It has to do with the punk-rock piosturing GD has now. The faux-punk get-ups, clueless politics, rebellious image (when they are being marketted that way). Most kids are dumb and will fall for bullshit like this, and record exec.'s know that.

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It is a little grating that their supposedly politically radical album ended up being the most thoroughly commercialised, but again, fuck it. Kids have always had a tendancy to go for things that seem edgy but in reality are as safe & fuzzy as can be. Often they grow out of it.

That said, collaborating with U2 is inexcusable. Bastards! (Shake fist.)

I think everybody here is better than a 16 year girl in a Green Day shirt.

I really dislike this attitude that kids are stupid and that they are 'duped' into buying something buy an image which is 'fake'. By the point a band are in press, you don't know them, you don't own them, and their image is probably fake. This applies to anyone you could care to mention. Kids don't care about what they listen to. They do care, more than most cynical record collectors over 21, but they certainly don't care whether or not Billy Joe cares about the politics, whether he really means it man. Because kids are capable of actually, genuinely enjoying music, something that most adults forget how to do. And that is far more important than Green Days music, which, as I've said, leaves me cold (and has done since I was about 12, which makes this whole point somewhat circular).

By now,Glice,you deal with the kids because i aint give a shit with being nice to them anymore.

I may well just change my signature to 'You are all cunts who have AIDS' in 20-ft letters. That'll fox the buggers.

for all i care....

I've been experimenting with droooogzz honey.he!

Good for you. I'm not going to touch any of them for a while. Except for my namesake (ket), which I think will see me through ATP (Noise is best experienced on ket).