Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Nobody is going to remember them for their solo records though.

Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory

If you mean the general public, then you may be right. But many us established SY fans really like some of the solo records. Last Night on Earth is great.

Originally Posted by noisereductions

but to just go on what Genteel was saying... would you put any of the solo records in your Top 10 Sonic Youth And Related Albums list? I wouldn't.

Shit. I can barely decide what to cut out for SY records.

I mean I loved Trees Outside, but man, I'd put the bulk of the band's work above that w/o thinking.

Originally Posted by noisereductions

but to just go on what Genteel was saying... would you put any of the solo records in your Top 10 Sonic Youth And Related Albums list? I wouldn't.

Shit. I can barely decide what to cut out for SY records.

I mean I loved Trees Outside, but man, I'd put the bulk of the band's work above that w/o thinking.

Originally Posted by mil_pl

From Thurston's Facebook:

today: recording new songs for new cd with steve shelley, deb, james in secret location in north london - september release

Who is Deb?

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Body/Head is excellent but it isn't Sonic Youth for sure. Lee Ranaldo's records are only a little better than Thurston's. Maybe. Change in direction is fine, I encourage that sort of thing myself because it must be boring to always do the same thing. If the actual songs were any good. But they're not. I mean, it's great that they are musicians and do what they are known for and they, as artists, love doing. Nobody is going to remember them for their solo records though.

Originally Posted by scott v

I agree with Genteel, Lee's (Dust band) songs are fairly different than anything thats like sonic youth or even his song's in SY definitely also give him credit for that, i like some of the songs on the 1st Dust album and tried several times to listen to the 2nd (latest) and just can't wrap my head around it.

I have the Body/Head/Gate LP and thats pretty heavy and great and I like it better than the Matador LP.

Thurston seems to keep the SY-sound-vibe which to me is somewhat reinforcing to me as him being the principle songwriter in SY (though it was still a fairly democratic band, he was bringing in most of riffs...) though his playing style seems to be changing subtly (riffs and chord progressions have a more complex sound but remain having an open chord tone... does that make sense???) within the last few years even within that he's still using the "Pavement tuning" and its variant (CLM was primarily CGDGBB / and now with the new songs that will become the next album i figured out he's gone back to CGDGCD based on the new youtube vids of the most recent gigs).

Yeah, who is Deb? I'm not even familiar w/ James Sedwards??? ...and so is Steve now in Thurston's band and still in Lee's??? (or on brief hiatus from the Dust, whom i assuming are taking a break). I'm just wondering since the 3 of Lee, Thurston, Steve still play in the same circles (one degree form each other) will the time come when SY reunites without Kim (..dare I say???) oddly, i would think its possible more so now than obviously a year or two ago.

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

Wednesday Dust-gig there were moments, that if I had shutted my eyes, I would have easily imagined there were SY in the stage.

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

This was a Steveless show, right?





Lee's caption: The Dust/Scandinavian tour, w Tomas Ortved on drums - "our Jimmy Nicol". #SortSol #getbetterSteve. What happened to Steve? Whatever it was, get well soon indeed!

EDIT - Never mind, I hadn't read the "Scandinavian Tour" thread... Dammit, lots to read here. :D

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

This was a Steveless show, right?



Lee's caption: The Dust/Scandinavian tour, w Tomas Ortved on drums - "our Jimmy Nicol". #SortSol #getbetterSteve. What happened to Steve? Whatever it was, get well soon indeed!

EDIT - Never mind, I hadn't read the "Scandinavian Tour" thread... Dammit, lots to read here. :D

Originally Posted by scott v

Steve now plays with Thurston, James Sedwards and some bass player???

Thurston has dropped the CLM band and has started another... they've done a few shows without the bass player, vids are on youtube.

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

A coupla months ago or so Thurston said he was still playing with/as Chelsea Light Moving. Is CLM done?
:confused:

Originally Posted by loop cat

Psychic Hearts it's not boring

Originally Posted by loop cat

i know both records you said , it's another universe , and the freedom of expression it's far away, from the pop structure of Psychic Hearts (anyway good for sundays afternoon)

Originally Posted by loop cat

Psychic Hearts it's not boring

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

I think last night on earth is definitely Lee's best solo record and possible better than most of his Sonic Youth material, I find almost ALL of Thurston's solo shit from any era boring..

Originally Posted by guest

you know what, I think demolished thoughts is fucking stunning. I've always enjoyed the record but it seemed to fall by the wayside a bit given what happened back then. in comparing it to CLM, it actually feels like thurston being as opposed to mere youthful posturing. beck's production is understated but nonetheless intricate, the accompaniment as has been noted makes perfect sense, with the violin drones atoning for dissonant guitars etc., and thurston's playing is more intricate than ever. his songwriting was honestly insane here, some of the best it has ever been. I mean for christ's sake, space is a perfect piece of music, don't give a fuck what anyone says. not the kind of record you'd really want him to make again, but proves that he can take what he brings/brought to sy and distill it into something just as potent. first time a song-based thurston record has matched a late-period sonic record on a song-for-song basis. trees was good but only intermittently did the songs define themselves as something more than a piece written while taking a dump. psychic hearts can be pretty dry if you're not in the mood, largely because it's not dry at all, but elegy for all the dead rock stars is easily one of the best songs in the sonic canon for sure. his solo noise recordings and collaborations have always been interesting at worst as well.

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

So even though we've all mutually agreed that none of us listen to Psychic Hearts with any kind of frequency I'm still the bad guy for just admitting that its kind of boring? Meh to you all, much like 2011 Lebron James, I'm really starting to embrace being the SYG Villain and taking all the troll hitz ;)

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

Should we just merge this thread with "The Best Day"? A lot of this is being rehashed since that was the more current title.

Originally Posted by scott v

Steve now plays with Thurston, James Sedwards and some bass player???

Originally Posted by stu666

I think "Deb" the bass player could be Debbie Googe from MBV...

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

Should we just merge this thread with "The Best Day"? A lot of this is being rehashed since that was the more current title.

I get the impression Thurston wishes he'd been less mysterious with the Chelsea Light Moving brand but hasn't necessarily dissolved the group. I just don't think any of them live in London, so he started this new group and used his name. I also think Steve was only there at the end of March for the recording session they mentioned and subsequent tour and isn't really part of the new group per se.