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mil_pl 01.30.2017 06:28 PM

According to Quietus RnR Consciousness is out on April 28.

http://thequietus.com/articles/21673...re-interview-2

zelocia 01.30.2017 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
According to Quietus RnR Consciousness is out on April 28.

http://thequietus.com/articles/21673...re-interview-2


Anyone else find it a little ironic that it's going to be released on Kim's 64th birthday?

greenlight 01.31.2017 01:38 AM

cheers for the interview.

greenlight 01.31.2017 01:40 AM

[quote=zelocia]Anyone else find it a little ironic that it's going to be released on Kim's 64th birthday?[/QUOTE

ironic alright, good observation.

guest 01.31.2017 08:48 PM

I'm so excited to be taught how to be woke by a man who cheated on his wife for 5 years!

mil_pl 02.01.2017 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by guest
I'm so excited to be taught how to be woke by a man who cheated on his wife for 5 years!


To be honest their private life is not my business, so I do not care much. Shit happens everywhere.

stu666 02.01.2017 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
To be honest their private life is not my business, so I do not care much. Shit happens everywhere.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mil_pl again.

zelocia 02.01.2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by greenlight
Quote:

Originally Posted by zelocia
Anyone else find it a little ironic that it's going to be released on Kim's 64th birthday?


ironic alright, good observation.


Maybe less ironic than it is coincidental?

stu666 02.02.2017 01:39 AM

Rock n Roll Consciousness - LP/CD/CS/DL coming MAY 5 (Harvest USA, Fiction UK, Hostess Japan)

https://www.facebook.com/Rock-n-Roll...1857689780777/

The Soup Nazi 02.02.2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stu666
Rock n Roll Consciousness - LP/CD/CS/DL coming MAY 5 (Harvest USA, Fiction UK, Hostess Japan)

https://www.facebook.com/Rock-n-Roll...1857689780777/


T doesn't appear on Harvest's website yet. Being on Harvest Records sounds so cool... until you realize they also carry execrable and excretable shit like Richard Ashcroft. NOT that it matters in the end! :)

mil_pl 02.06.2017 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stu666
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mil_pl again.


Cheers, Stu!

Btw, don't you think that Sonic Youth albums were always nice in terms of cover, artworks, inside booklets, etc. and Thurston's solo stuff looks weird and poor compared to it?

zelocia 02.06.2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
Btw, don't you think that Sonic Youth albums were always nice in terms of cover, artworks, inside booklets, etc. and Thurston's solo stuff looks weird and poor compared to it?


Not sure whether this question was directed only at Stu or not, but I would agree with you that the art direction on Thurston's solo albums is worse than Sonic Youth by comparison. I think only Trees Outside of the Academy had an interesting booklet, and though the album cover itself is not absolutely fantastic, it is better than all of Thurston's other solo albums in my opinion.

mil_pl 02.06.2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zelocia
Not sure whether this question was directed only at Stu or not, but I would agree with you that the art direction on Thurston's solo albums is worse than Sonic Youth by comparison. I think only Trees Outside of the Academy had an interesting booklet, and though the album cover itself is not absolutely fantastic, it is better than all of Thurston's other solo albums in my opinion.


No, the rest of my post was directed to everyone :) I agree with you on that the TOOTA was the best, and also the CD design (I remember T's pic on a sewer?) was cool.

zelocia 02.06.2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
No, the rest of my post was directed to everyone :) I agree with you on that the TOOTA was the best, and also the CD design (I remember T's pic on a sewer?) was cool.


Yes, the picture of Thurston seemingly resting his head on a manhole cover on the CD is quite interesting.

Trees is also probably his best solo effort to date, musically (though I do love Psychic Hearts and Demolished Thoughts). I wish he would make another album like it, but then maybe Trees would be less special.

betweenthebars 02.11.2017 07:07 PM

Trees > Demolished Thoughts > Psychic Hearts > The Best Day > Chelsea Light

Looking forward to the new one!

zelocia 02.12.2017 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by betweenthebars
Trees > Demolished Thoughts > Psychic Hearts > The Best Day > Chelsea Light

Looking forward to the new one!


I 100% agree with the order in which you ranked these albums. I have a lot of love for Psychic Hearts, but Demolished Thoughts is an absolutely beautiful record.

I have semi-low expectations for Rock N Roll Consciousness, but I am looking forward to it as well.

mil_pl 03.01.2017 03:20 AM

Songs on the album according to Saturn:

Exalted 11:54 min
Cusp 6:33 min
Turn On 10:18 min
Smoke Of Dreams 6:04 min
Aphrodite 8:08 min

mil_pl 03.01.2017 05:15 AM

Oh, here's the first single: Cease Fire
https://thurstonmoore.lnk.to/CeaseFireSo

_slavo_ 03.01.2017 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
Oh, here's the first single: Cease Fire
https://thurstonmoore.lnk.to/CeaseFireSo


oh. sounds like the same riffs, the same harmonics, the same drum beats, all over again.

Severian 03.01.2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
oh. sounds like the same riffs, the same harmonics, the same drum beats, all over again.


Ah man. You shat on my moment.

_slavo_ 03.02.2017 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Ah man. You shat on my moment.


So sorry :(

The Soup Nazi 03.16.2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mil_pl
Oh, here's the first single: Cease Fire
https://thurstonmoore.lnk.to/CeaseFireSo


"Cease Fire [radio edit]", same as the version linked above (6:03), is available as a free 320kbps mp3 download from kungfustore:

http://sonicyouth.kungfustore.com/si...-mp3thr08.html

Bal 03.18.2017 01:49 PM

the song is up on thurston's official(?) soundcloud page, but for me only the first 26 seconds load.
same with the other tunes on there.
anyone else experience the same problem?

betweenthebars 03.18.2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bal
the song is up on thurston's official(?) soundcloud page, but for me only the first 26 seconds load.
same with the other tunes on there.
anyone else experience the same problem?


I was able to stream the entire song on Spotify.

Initial impression is that its a solid but similar Thurston song, like most of The Best Day. Bass and production are improved.

RanaldoNecro 03.18.2017 08:24 PM

Updated link:

https://sonicyouth.kungfustore.com/d...TI5MjU5Nz Y,/

Severian 03.20.2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro


Some bugs in the site on iOS. Search option is wonky. But the "Ceae Fire" single is free, so that's cool.

stu666 03.22.2017 02:29 AM

Second song from the album has been released

https://www.7digital.com/artist/thur...dreams-6287764

mil_pl 03.22.2017 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stu666
Second song from the album has been released

https://www.7digital.com/artist/thur...dreams-6287764


It's up on Spotify as well:

https://open.spotify.com/album/3RzteSIzcdxyRcHTmohsRz

I must say I dig it and the video is pretty awesome?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c0pR02pv9k

Chris Lawrence 03.22.2017 05:44 AM

touch the fire in the rain and

greenlight 03.22.2017 10:43 AM

I'm diggin Cease Fire big time, eventhough it's typical Thurston's post SY output. I like production too. thanks for the link of the video, I will check it out later today.

Severian 03.22.2017 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu666
Second song from the album has been released

https://www.7digital.com/artist/thur...dreams-6287764


The track list according to Pitchfork — no "Cease Fire?"

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Originally Posted by Pitchfork
01 Exalted
02 Cusp
03 Turn On
04 Smoke of Dreams
05 Aphrodite


Just five songs? Weak.

Severian 03.22.2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by greenlight
I'm diggin Cease Fire big time, eventhough it's typical Thurston's post SY output. I like production too. thanks for the link of the video, I will check it out later today.


Yeah I like "Cease Fire" too. It's nothing revelatory, but we knew it wouldn't be. The production is different soundin, at least that's how it sounds on my iPhone 7 speakers. Sounds fairly traditional, the transition from soft to loud after the intro actually made me think of Metallica for some reason. :confused:

The bit at 4:30 sounds an awful lot like "Cross the Breeze."

There's something that always kind of fails to land with me about Thurston's "heavy" stuff. It tends to sound dynamically similar to SY, but with, like, a piece taken out. Almost like we're listening to isolated takes of SY songs that are missing the overlay of the other members.

Is this Googe and Steve playing on this?

_tunic_ 03.22.2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
The track list according to Pitchfork — no "Cease Fire?"
[..]
Just five songs? Weak.

it's also mentioned like that on the CoS site and German Amazon. That last link shows the vinyl tracklist which has the last song on side B:

Quote:

Titelverzeichnis

Disk: 1



1. Exalted


2. Cusp


3. Turn On


4. Smoke Of Dreams



Disk: 2



1. Aphrodite

Moshe 03.23.2017 04:02 AM

http://www.recordstore.co.uk/records...nt/5H9H0000000

The Soup Nazi 03.23.2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Moshe


Well that flew off the shelves pretty fuckin' quick...

Quote:

Sorry Sold Out

greenlight 03.23.2017 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
It tends to sound dynamically similar to SY, but with, like, a piece taken out. Almost like we're listening to isolated takes of SY songs that are missing the overlay of the other members.

Is this Googe and Steve playing on this?


same here.

yeah, I think both.



still. great punk rock a la Thurston. at times mellow, but then there is stuff like Full Bleed to substitute it.

scott v 03.24.2017 11:59 AM

"Quote:
Originally Posted by Severian
It tends to sound dynamically similar to SY, but with, like, a piece taken out. Almost like we're listening to isolated takes of SY songs that are missing the overlay of the other members.

Is this Googe and Steve playing on this?

same here.

yeah, I think both.

still. great punk rock a la Thurston. at times mellow, but then there is stuff like Full Bleed to substitute it."

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I see the point being made here and agree, IMO it has some to do with the guitar tuning Thurston is using (CGDGCD) which has been probably his most used guitar tuning since 2004-ish and the fact that James Sedwards is playing in the same tuning and both of them are doing fair number of sections where riffs are matching or doubled. In SY Lee and Thurston would often not be in the same tuning starting from the 90's thru the end of 2009. So the tonal scope of the songs appeared wider.

I get the feeling that these songs are Thurston's and he has a very specific sound and idea of how the parts should sound, though I'm guessing James is having freedom on the soloing as that is not Thurston's technical forte.
That's what seperate's this band from SY/Chelsea Light Moving in that James conjours up soloing that's based off of rather conventional blues rock sounding scales. Even with all of that its still interesting to me.

dasx 03.30.2017 02:39 AM

I've been listening to both songs few times and I like both. Smoke of Dreams is kind of typical solo-Thurston ballad with the exception that there's really great non-Thurston-like guitar solos (probably played by James Sedwards).

Cease Fire could easily be taken from Chelsea Light Moving album. Standard Thurston punk rock song from post Sonic Youth era, but it's ok too.

Severian 03.31.2017 10:01 AM

Is the 5-song track list above confirmed for absolute sure-sies?

It would be really weird if "Cease Fire" wasn't on the album, since it was promoted as the first single by Thurston himself, about 500 times, on Facebook. :(

mil_pl 03.31.2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Is the 5-song track list above confirmed for absolute sure-sies?

It would be really weird if "Cease Fire" wasn't on the album, since it was promoted as the first single by Thurston himself, about 500 times, on Facebook. :(


I read somewhere something like Ceasefire is a hidden track on the album.


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