"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Skuj again."

Wow! Fucking hell man, thank you for posting this! I didn't know anything about it.

Here's the info from the page, just in case someone's attention isn't grabbed by that hyperlink.


So, someone with chops and experience is trying to fund the production of a definitive story and visual document of SWANS.

So far, he's raised less than half of the necessary amount, and he has less than a month before the deadline. If you love SWANS, this seems like a good way to contribute to the preservation of their memory (not that they're dead, or gone, but ... well, nobody really knows what the future holds), and to possibly sound the alarm for some folks who may not have the pleasure of knowing this band.

Man, the trailer alone looks incredible.

yeah, it does

Have you guys checked back? He's like 64% of the way to meeting the goal!

What a difference a few hours can make.

Also, Pitchfork reported on this 4 hours ago, so that certainly didn't hurt.

Why are you guys fundraising for bjork's vespertine album when my brother Martin has the surround sound DVD on his entertainment shelfs in his living room? Get over it! 5:1 souround sound DVDS were so so expesnive to produce only brojk and youshimi battles the pink robors made any money! It's over! It failed! It's never coming back!

What you should be doing with that fundraisers money is buying all the surrond sound audio DVDS on email and amazon.xane warrior pince nez the supernintendo from the bible. You know the onw that the archangel Phil Collings fucking sucks shit! Ouch that hurt.

Hey I get it man — you're punny and quippy and stuff. But maybe once in a while you could just either contribute to a conversation (one that isn't about Ween), or not bother. In other words: say something or say nothing. Eh? Just a thought.

Now, clearly you don't give a shit about this, because you didn't watch the video or anything, but I'd be remiss if I failed to point out the inaccuracy of your analogy. We're not backing something that's already been made, or that is readily available. We're backing a project that is actually new. The film will be a definitive document — the "complete" story of SWANS (though... what happens when if and when story continues, I don't know). This has never been done before, and the need for such a document, not just for diehards but for the world at large. A lot of people still don't know about SWANS, even after their successful revival.

So... that's why.

Duh.

Fine asshole. I'm going fucking corner the Market on every Existing Surround Sound Audio DVD on the Market and your shitty as fucking Thurston;Bjork quasi;album is going to be a laughing stock that you are openly going to shit on yourself because it is a sonic diarrhuiretic and you are all constipated from consuming copius amounts of pretensce.

As for me... I just won "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire!" Regis and Kathy Lee just announced it on their show this morning.

Enjoy your sour grapes metrosexuals! I'm sipping on a divine bottle of Baco Noir right now.

Dean Martin Flicks his lit cigarette on you from the stage and says "why don't you paint me a picture on the way out, it'll last longer!"

tha hellz yr problem?^^

You know Swans are known to sadististically drown ducks to death for know other reason than spite. I read it in the Wisdom of the Wilderness. The reason why bjork wore the Swan was because it has Reptilian Consciousness so she appropriated it's existence.

That's rongh! Thurston and bjork are collaborating on an album for Lizard People!!

Gross!! I never ever ever do that again. The only one involved in this project I don't want to exject all my excrement and bodily fluid on: is Sister Superior Bjork. Great Honours to Her Sistership!

Shame and Guilt on all of you disgusting revolting Metrosexuals! Bleckh!! You Deserve it!!

Have fun Burning in the Hellfires of Gehenna! You are going to suffer like you never believed you could; you've more than earned it.

As for me... I'm in the Surround Sound Audio DVD business now Mangs! Tata!

yea, sure. whatever you say PLips.:rolleyes:

What album? It's a movie.

Why am I even fucking typing this Jesus Christ..

That's right because you're all volunteering to go to Hell for the Sake of Bjork.s Cause!!!

That's right because you're all volunteering to go to Hell for the Sake of Bjork.s Cause!!!

Holy shit ... goal is exceeded with 24 days left!!!!

Thank you!!

Looking at the numbers since Blood Promise shared this, I can't help but think we made a difference.

I'll bet Pitchfork watches this board for tips on how to be cool. That's why they posted about it after BP did.

Best I can tell, the majority of the work and expense has already occurred. I know NOTHING about producing a DVD, but I'm assuming the biggest cost was having Marco Porsia travel with the band. It will take a good deal of time compiling all the footage and no doubt Marco wants to be compensated for his time, but the cost had already been accrued before the kickstarter campaign began. With the goal met, it's a win-win for everyone involved!


Don't forget Pink Floyd's, 'Ummagumma'......but only the ones with the cover of the 'Gigi' soundtrack on the front. Not only are they 5:1 surround sound, but CD two has a secret backwards masking album hidden under the CD lable. There are five hidden albums in total:

Electric Light Orchestra - Face The Music
Styx - Paradice Thester
Black Oak Arkansas - The Day Electricity Came To Arkansas
Alan Parsons Project - Stereotomy
Triumph - Thunder Seven

My copy of 'Unmagumma' has the ELO album.

SPECIAL NOTE - not all needles are capable of finding the groove on the secret backwards masking albums hidden under the lable of disc two of the 2xCD set. (GIGI soundtrack versions ONLY)

Holy shit! So that 2 Layered CD Rolling Stones "Their Satanic Majesties Request" actually had another album on it???

My friend gay Joe gave my copy to Sally Ann after I told him off for bragging he was a virgin when I was a virgin!


Crrrrrrrraaaaazzzzeeeeee!!!

Yes, well, that's clear, right? I mean in the video he shows parts of the documentary. And he states that the money is for post-production, graphics, blah blah. But I have no doubt that the film has been made. But the finished product? I don't know. And there obviously hasn't been any real marketing for this. I find myself wondering if it will even be done by the projected date, and I think it probably won't unless they really haul ass.

But yes, it's a win-win for everyone involved.

I contributed!! We need this document. Swans are underdocumented. Same Dude who has done DVDs with last 2 albums...good work.

Skuj! There you are, friend. I thought you'd sworn off the board. Don't do that!

Good for you for contributing. I agree, we need this!

Oh fuck. I forgot.

Whoops! Double posted and added the second time around. Hah! Sorry. Edited to not be redundant.

You're right — we need this.

Although, come to think of it, we could actually probably use a definitive Sonic Youth documentary as much or more. Year Punk Broke doesn't cut it.

Anyway, cheers. We're getting a SWANS movie.

Also The Glowing Man has grown on me a lot. Didn't feel like a list-topper for the year (2012 simply belonged to The Seer. Period.) but I feel like I'm still getting to know it, and finding new things about it to appreciate. Kind of devastating how little fanfare it received.

Agree, it got little love. It really is a transitional record to my ears. I think many people wanted To Be The Kind Seer Returns or something, but it's a slight left turn towards....god knows what. Several tracks on it are my fav 2010s Swans moments. It's amazing what they have given us since 2010. It's just epic. I still have not absorbed it all.

Hinestly I think the rape allegations did a lot of damage. Pitchfork, for instance, gave the album an 8-point something, but oddly didn't call it "best new music," and didn't do any features on it. It certainly didn't get any bad reviews, but it didn't get as many reviews as the two preceding albums. I think I saw it on 2 of the year's best-of lists, and I scoured those things like crazy.

I can't think of any other explanation. SWANS and Michael Gira seem to have been blacklisted, however temporarily.

I wonder if this new doc will have the balls to not sweep that under the carpet. It's got to be mentioned somehow, right?

i always felt that To Be Kind was better than the Seer. haven't really gone near The Glowing Man. i will when i absorb the last two.

why doesn't SY produce something like this?

That's an excellent question.

I'd be lying if I said the whole thing didn't leave a pretty nasty taste in my mouth — all of it. But it is certainly part of the "complete" story of the band.

I imagine they will not include much about it, probably in the premise that the issue doesn't have anything to do with SWANS and their music. I wouldn't say this means they have "balls." Quite the opposite in fact. But I'm trying to think of how it Gia's commentary on the matter could be included tastefully, and without seeming like a ploy.

I think The Seer is so much better than To Be Kind. I'm sorry. It's just, like, no contest. The Seer was an evolution — a massive step. To Be Kind just stomped on the same ground until all the grass and dirt and sand got all mushed together. It's still good, but it borders on grating, and pushes things to extremes. It also seems to — as I've said before — lack the tonal variety of Seer.

There's nothing on To Be Kind that strikes quite like "Avatar." Not to my ears anyway. So, like I said, for me The Seer positively owned 2012. To Be Kind is great, and I think the consensus is that it's better than The Seer, but for me it just didn't have the same immediacy or appeal. Still a remarkable record, though.

The Glowing Man seems to take a step back and sideways. It's closer to Seer and My Father... than it is to TBK. But I think Seer is inarguably the definitive document from the 2010s iteration of SWANS.


I'd love to know. I really would. Apart from the obvious things like Kim and Thurston not probably being interested in collaborating. I think they could get over that for the purposes of a defining document. If George and Paul and Ringo could get together and not only record withthe ghost of their dead friend, but then sit under a tree and wank off about themselves for a 5-hour film, then I'd say Kim and Thurston could at give some interviews together. And probably should, before they start to... you know... Die.

ha! yeah, they're well over the age when the Beatles did the Anthology.

Last week, I unfollowed ThorHarris666 due to his constant rhetoric and negativeness......Twitter has now suspended his account due to what some are calling hate speech.

I saw this/heard about it. Disappointing.

What's all this about?

Oddly enough, his Twitter account is active this morning. One notable difference is the pencil sketching of multiple cock & balls ramming each other (his Twitter header) has been replaced with picture of the Texas State Capital in Austin.

He had posted videos about how to punch a Natzi in the face and another about cutting metal to help people penetrate the fence between Texas and Mexico.

Thor is extremely bitter about Trump being President. I'm not sure if I saw anything that I considered "hate speech," I'll probably start following him once he starts tweeting about music again.

trump stuff is perfectly fine from where I'm standing but overbearing masculine brutality shouldn't necessarily be unexpected coming from a former member of swans....

It's good, but I feel like we've seen it all before. Boy do I ever want to see them live again though.

Well now I'm hearing the "suspension" was because of penis doodles, NOT nazi-punching or fence cutting tutorials.

I dunno.