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Reliable Pharmacy 03.27.2007 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther Greenwood
(i tried to PM you this, SynthethicalY, but your inbox is apparently full..)

Umm, hi. I'm on medications for mental problems (depression and other stuff) but I also have therapy every week. Plus, I go to the gym and eat really healthily. I stopped smoking or drinking alcohol about two years ago and I don't do recreational drugs anymore. I read quite a lot of self-help books, I try and be honest and talk to people (I didn't before, this does help). I make sure I get out in the fresh air everyday, I read a lot about Buddhism and I go to meditation sessions. I've tried lots of "alternative therapies", I do charity work... etc, etc. Lots of other stuff.

I'm only saying this because I don't think ONE thing will help. I think this is actually from one of the self-help books I read, but here: try and think of each positive thing you do to help yourself get better as 1%. Like if you go to therapy, improve your diet, get exercise, be more honest with people, smile at yourself in the mirror, take your meds, meditate, start a diary, drink more water, clean up your surroundings.. that's 10%, yknow? You're 10% better. And it's actually not too hard to come up with 100 positive things you can do to help yourself.

I don't have answers really, just suggestions based on my experiences.

Oh, the only thing I'd really say is don't listen to people who warn you off taking any medications without really knowing your situation. And vice versa (don't listen to people who try to convince you to take medications without really knowing your situation.) Both sides are (at best) annoying and strike me as thoughtless.





Dear Miss E. Greenwood,

We at Hirst Pharmaceuticals, wish you all the best luck in your current mental health endeavour.


Respectively,

D. Hirst

President and CEO,
HIRST CORP.

Reliable Pharmacy 03.27.2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash Cow
I started to get depressed an hour ago. And started crying. God I feel stupid, saying this.






Dear Mr. Synthethical Y,

We at Hirst Pharmaceuticals currently have no relevant advice for you, but we wish you the best of luck in your breakdown.

But lets just face it darling we are a money hungery corporation and we never pass up an opportunity to make a connection with a potential client.

gloom is our buisness and buisness is good.


See You Soon.

Jokingly and Respectively,
D. Hirst

President and CEO,
HIRST CORP.

Everyneurotic 03.27.2007 05:09 PM

buddy, i know how i got out of being a terminal depressed fuckhead (actually, sometimes i even can't remember). only advice i can give you besides those given by far more expert people here is a) you should really want to get better, i know it sounds stupid but if doesn'tstart from there, then there's little you can do to get better, realize that you need to get out of that hole and b) know yourself, do whatever you want, care only about yourself and the people who care about you, embrace what makes you an individual instead of rejecting it to fit in, stop caring about whoever is not on your side and let it rip. sounds cheesy but punk rock did help me out on those hard times.

anyway, hang in there man...oh and drink juice, it's good and good for you, cran-grape is my current favorite. juice makes things better.

!@#$%! 03.27.2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
anyway, hang in there man...oh and drink juice, it's good and good for you, man-juice my current favorite. juice makes things better.


:eek:

Everyneurotic 03.27.2007 05:17 PM

you can clearly see on my post that i said cran-grape as in juice made of cranberrie plus grape.

you trying to get my goat?

!@#$%! 03.27.2007 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
you can clearly see on my post that i said man-ape as in juice made of manberrie plus ape.

you trying to have sex my goat? that'll cost you $5


:D...

Cantankerous 03.27.2007 05:39 PM

anti-depressants eat your soul. seriously, i know like eight people taking lexapro or zoloft or prozac and none of them have any personality.

Everyneurotic 03.27.2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
:D...


that's really mature.

ps: did you get that thing i sent you?

!@#$%! 03.27.2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
that's really mature.

ps: did you get that thing i sent you?


have a laff man. i just woke up in a goofy mood.

Everyneurotic 03.27.2007 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
have a laff man. i just woke up in a goofy mood.


i'm cramping from laughing.

!@#$%! 03.27.2007 06:17 PM

yah, hm a little thing i wanted to say people

you can feel sad about shit, sadness is a normal & healthy human emotion

people think that sadness is "bad" and they say "oooh cheer up, what up w/ the long face". but melancholy moods are a part of life & can strike for a number of reasons.

DEPRESSION on the other hand is a disease that includes feelings of worthlessness and suicidal tendencies and the feeling that one is no good etc etc. plus a number of other things.

some times when you refuse to make room for your sadness it will come back as a kind of depression. i so have noticed anyway. so, don't be afraid to look at sunsets & get a little teary eyed & shit. it's natural.

but anyway to all depressos out there, don't give up, there is hope.

--

and kegmama sweetie i hope you're ok & if you really have a problem you find a way to feel better.

Cantankerous 03.27.2007 06:24 PM

depression is a normal thing to feel, however, it only becomes a problem when it doesn't lift.

Green_mind 03.27.2007 06:25 PM

Today, my head felt like an empty coconut, with the all the insides scraped out and milked dry. My eyes were dry, for no apparent reason I was on the very urge of crying, one sad song would have set me off, it was so wrong.

Katy 03.27.2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
anti-depressants eat your soul. seriously, i know like eight people taking lexapro or zoloft or prozac and none of them have any personality.


I think depression is the thing that eats the soul.

(Wolf Eyes next album title? "The Thing That Eats The Soul"..)

one of the only things i remember thinking clearly when i was really a mess was "it's like a cancer. like an alien in me, eating my soul."

My personality when i'm in a really bad patch consists of next-to-nothing. My personality when I'm taking my meds properly and doing all the things I'm supposed to do (and going through a good patch) is as close-to-normal as I get.

Maybe the people you know shouldn't be on the meds they're on. Or maybe they didn't have any personalities to begin with.

Cantankerous 03.27.2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Katy
I think depression is the thing that eats the soul.

(Wolf Eyes next album title? "The Thing That Eats The Soul"..)

one of the only things i remember thinking clearly when i was really a mess was "it's like a cancer. like an alien in me, eating my soul."

My personality when i'm in a really bad patch consists of next-to-nothing. My personality when I'm taking my meds properly and doing all the things I'm supposed to do (and going through a good patch) is as close-to-normal as I get.

Maybe the people you know shouldn't be on the meds they're on. Or maybe they didn't have any personalities to begin with.


whatever. my opinion is based upon anecdotal evidence, not imperical data. i myself have no reason to take antidepressants; in the rare event that i would be depressed i certainly know how to pull myself out of it (i'm not insinuating that you don't; i know that some people can't.) i see medication as sort of a last resort.

!@#$%! 03.27.2007 07:16 PM

speaking of zoloft, which i used to call "vitamin Z"--

i loved the thing because after months & months of long faces i suddenly one day had this manic smile on my face. it was funny because i had nothing to smile about but there it was.

the other lovely thing about it was that because the thing somewhat supresses the sexual response, i got ENDLESS BONERS which were, ah, hard to kill. without the need for tantric rituals it was possible to go on for hours. oh that was fun.

anyway eventually some other brain chemicals must have started to kick in because i started to have the symptoms of overdose & i was removed of it.
oh what was my point?

let's avoid generalizations with this topic. what works for one person doesn't work for another. i think katy makes a very good case for meds when needed and as needed. in any case you have to be a proactive patient & report your changes faithfully to the prescribing entities. just cos we all have pill-popper friends who are fucked up it doesnt mean the meds are bad per se.

Cantankerous 03.27.2007 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
speaking of zoloft, which i used to call "vitamin Z"--

i loved the thing because after months & months of long faces i suddenly one day had this manic smile on my face. it was funny because i had nothing to smile about but there it was.

the other lovely thing about it was that because the thing somewhat supresses the sexual response, i got ENDLESS BONERS which were, ah, hard to kill. without the need for tantric rituals it was possible to go on for hours. oh that was fun.

anyway eventually some other brain chemicals must have started to kick in because i started to have the symptoms of overdose & i was removed of it.
oh what was my point?

let's avoid generalizations with this topic. what works for one person doesn't work for another. i think katy makes a very good case for meds when needed and as needed. in any case you have to be a proactive patient & report your changes faithfully to the prescribing entities. just cos we all have pill-popper friends who are fucked up it doesnt mean the meds are bad per se.

i'm actually pretty sure it is them and not the drugs...the drugs are just not helping the situation. i know a lot of people like that.

Katy 03.27.2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i see medication as sort of a last resort.


Yeah, so do I, really. I don't particularly like taking what I take, but the reason I do take my meds now is because of the experience I had last year when I decided to not take anything at all. I just stopped one day without telling anyone. I decided that if I just ate properly and went to the gym a lot I'd be fine. I did everything right. I was as healthy as could be and I was going to therapy. But i was also lying to my doctors and my family and friends, pretending to take my meds and just storing them under my bed. And over the course of weeks and months I got worse and worse until i ended up in the hospital almost as bad as I'd been at my very worst. I had hundreds of pills and capsules stashed under my bed by the time i finally admitted what I'd been doing... and by that point that was a kind of dangerous stash to have. And I HATED the fact that I hadn't been able to "cure myself". It was really hard to accept that it hadn't worked, despite all my efforts. It didn't make sense. It still doesn't make sense. But that's mental illness I suppose. It's unfair and doesn't make sense.

So now I take them. And things are a bit better, not great, but not awful. Mostly manageable. the drugs are "I gotta do what I gotta do".. and all that.

SynthethicalY 03.27.2007 10:12 PM

You know what made my day today?

That I am half way done with my general ed classes. And that only means that next year I will start a university. Which comes with great delight.

Cantankerous 03.28.2007 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Katy
Yeah, so do I, really. I don't particularly like taking what I take, but the reason I do take my meds now is because of the experience I had last year when I decided to not take anything at all. I just stopped one day without telling anyone. I decided that if I just ate properly and went to the gym a lot I'd be fine. I did everything right. I was as healthy as could be and I was going to therapy. But i was also lying to my doctors and my family and friends, pretending to take my meds and just storing them under my bed. And over the course of weeks and months I got worse and worse until i ended up in the hospital almost as bad as I'd been at my very worst. I had hundreds of pills and capsules stashed under my bed by the time i finally admitted what I'd been doing... and by that point that was a kind of dangerous stash to have. And I HATED the fact that I hadn't been able to "cure myself". It was really hard to accept that it hadn't worked, despite all my efforts. It didn't make sense. It still doesn't make sense. But that's mental illness I suppose. It's unfair and doesn't make sense.

So now I take them. And things are a bit better, not great, but not awful. Mostly manageable. the drugs are "I gotta do what I gotta do".. and all that.

sometimes mental illness is no fun.

Cantankerous 03.28.2007 12:11 AM

mental illness and coffee: a winning combination.

Cantankerous 03.28.2007 12:17 AM

i don't really think there's anything wrong with me, but you never know. they're always making up bullshit new diseases.

SynthethicalY 03.28.2007 12:19 AM

Like umm... Acid Reflux?

SynthethicalY 03.28.2007 12:21 AM

No, coffee does shit to me.

SynthethicalY 03.28.2007 12:24 AM

I had a srawberry cheesecake, hope that consoles you.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
sometimes mental illness is no fun.


sorry sweetcakes it's not like that, no. mental illnes is NEVER fun. i know it's cool to call yourself "kkrazzzeeeeee", but that's not real madness, no, oh not at all. you have to see it to know. not fun. not funny. fucking terrible actually.

Cantankerous 03.28.2007 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
sorry sweetcakes it's not like that, no. mental illnes is NEVER fun. i know it's cool to call yourself "kkrazzzeeeeee", but that's not real madness, no, oh not at all. you have to see it to know. not fun. not funny. fucking terrible actually.

:eek: REALLY?
i find it hard to believe that it's necessary for me to put a ":rolleyes:" in every post to denote the fact that I WASN'T SERIOUS.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
:eek: REALLY?
i find it hard to believe that it's necessary for me to put a ":rolleyes:" in every post to denote the fact that I WASN'T SERIOUS.


i dont know, with your love of all things courtney, i expect anything. :rolleyes:

Cantankerous 03.28.2007 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i dont know, with your love of all things courtney, i expect anything. :rolleyes:

whatever.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
whatever.


ha! :D

Cantankerous 03.28.2007 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ha! :D

i hope your real teeth aren;t that long.

SynthethicalY 03.28.2007 01:47 AM

You must spread it...Before giving it to cantankerous again.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i hope your real teeth aren;t that long.


*mumbles mumbles*

hm i had just won that, and now if i play to your comeback it might give you an insignificant yet symbolic victory.

fold.

i still win.

Cantankerous 03.28.2007 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
*mumbles mumbles*

hm i had just won that, and now if i play to your comeback it might give you an insignificant yet symbolic victory.

fold.

i still win.

that wasn't a comeback. i seriously hope they aren't that long.

Cantankerous 03.28.2007 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kegmama
Well if you are spreading disease, be sure to try her again later!

too bad i just repped you.
i got the aids.

SynthethicalY 03.28.2007 01:53 AM

Too bad I can't rep Kegmama again.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
that wasn't a comeback. i seriously hope they aren't that long.


im not biting your ass as long as you remain contagious-- so the length of my teeth is completely inconsequential. you can keep hoping all you want-- but it ain't happening.

 


Cantankerous 03.28.2007 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
im not biting your ass as long as you remain contagious-- so the length of my teeth is completely inconsequential. you can keep hoping all you want-- but it ain't happening.


 


this is irrelevant at this point because i know everyone on this board probably thinks i'm a filthy whore, but i have never had an STD.

SynthethicalY 03.28.2007 01:58 AM

I don't think that, but what does my opinion matter.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
this is irrelevant at this point because i know everyone on this board probably thinks i'm a filthy whore, but i have never had an STD.


sweetie, i'm just jerking your chain. i know that in spite of your tough broad posturing you're a huge softie. all smart people are.

love,

-dunstan


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