and mudhoney is pure rock n roll a la stooges, or MC5 . The mudhoney are dystopian music for dystopian times. today they do not make sense becauyse everyone is navel gazing and self absorbed into their stupid emotions and their stupid songs about failed love.

10+ years ago (most to least listened to)

Pixies
Meat Puppets
Mudhoney

these days (most to least listened to)

Mudhoney
Meat Puppets
Pixies

CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL y'allZZZZZZZ
YPOWZAaaaaa

huh?

last time i checked, all their songs were about either dogs or being sick or getting some from a nasty ugly grunge chick.

mc5 and the stooges brought different elements, not to mention aggression and violence to the garage punk of the sixties they started emulating, they turned it into something new. mudhoney just took those sounds, didn't alter the at all and just wrote songs that go from fucking brilliant to utter dog vomit with an decreasing level of passion with every passing release.

mudhoney, superfuzz bigmuff, the early singles,a nd every good by are about depravity, debauchery, death, sickness, rot, illness, pain, self-medication, heroin, all these things, but not about any dogs!

general malaise and dystopian environments, like you wrote before, yes

creedence still rules.

keep on chooglin'

you know, ccr were roots
swamp-y rock, r&b, country, blues, and rockabilly (and came after 1959)

CCR were roots rock. They never claimed to be rockabilly though, nor did they dress like fuciing ridiculous idiots ape-ing the supposed styles of the 50's greasers.

And they weren't 4th gen either, so you're right.

Robert Plant loves Elvis and rockabilly stuff and Led Zep would sometimes play Elvis covers and the like for soundcheck. Some of it sounds good, but my guess is that they may have did it largely to appease him. I can just see Jimmy perhaps telling him, "we're not playing that moldy shite during the show, Robert."

Although they did play "Train' Kept a-Rollin'" live many times. I guess The Yardbirds had made that one more contemporary. And they recorded "Hot Dog" for In Through the Out Door. A lot of their early stuff was, of course, as everyone knows, derived from blues, but also rockabilly; they just played the songs differently.