the record fucking sucks, flat out. all this talk about two or three good songs does not repair a shit record.

I already said that hel's only real contribution if you even wantt o cal it that, is that he "looked cool" and other idiots tried to ape his style. how NON-PUNK is that?

fuck this record. I am selling it on the ebay,.

how many brilliant music pieces came from punk?

punk had much more to do with attitude.

It has about three good songs on it, and he did a couple more good songs on his second album (The Kid With The Replaceable Head is a particular favourite), but I agree that it's not a brilliant album by any means.

And while we're Dick bashing (oo-er missus), this has got to be one of the worst books I've ever read:

I was not saying the music has to be brilliant, I said the music is fucking BORING

There must be something wrong with me. I like it from beginning to end.

I guess if you really don't want the record, send it to me. I'll reimburse you for the postage but nothing more.

and how many records have more than two or three good songs?

but ok rob, next time skip directly to the cock rock section, you migth get more lucky.

or maybe listen to the record first.

Ha ha!

Couldn't disagree more.
To me that was one of the most intersting LP's from that early CBGB's era ('76-'78). Great guitar work, cool lyrics, Hell's personality. I think the album is pretty damn underrated.
And I don't even know what to say to the boring comment.. I just don't pick that up.

Word!

Rob, you are SO wrong on this one. SO wrong.

Maybe it's just that he doesn't like it. Rob is not saying that the whatever historical importance this record has is to be taken off it, he is simply stating that for a record that is fussed over so much, he disappointedly found it boring. It's not that hard to see it, is it?

Only to indie kids, I have to agree with rob, but I do like this song though. Most punk bores me. However I haven't really given punk a chance.

i now what he's saying but in fact, at one point he actually seemed to say that.

idiot.

I said the album sucks. I find it boring. I find it to be 3 good songs, one of them being a classic, and the rest is wonk filler. horrid wretched shit.
It bores the fucking life out of me. I have heard endless tales of the wonderfulness of this shithole o' vinyl and I am severely disappointed.
I am going to sell this biatch on the ebay and I am going to go get the 180gram re-issue of marquee moon. god I hope it's better than this pile of overrated shit. I have listened to the whole thing 8 times in the past 10 days. I want my money and my life back.

Why, because I don't think punk is all that?

yeah, a little while back in nyc i believe. amazing thought i know.

thats three of modern underground music's most creative minds right there...

Keiji Haino has been making music for centuries, man.

now there's some boring shit.

You make me cry when you're being like that. Do you know that?

well, since the 70s, but hes still one of the geniuses of modern music. every decade hes been around hes been a genius of modern music because that motherfucker has been lightyears ahead of his contemporaries forever now.

he kinda looks funny to me in the sunn o)) robe with the sunglasses hes always got on.

are you sure you don't unconscusly like it :D? ha ha kiddin'.

just trying to give it a fair shake, raise it up the flagpole and see who salutes baby.

Yes. Yes, it is. I think we are all, at this moment, very disappointed in Rob.

hahahah! Hilarious!

Upon repeated listens I just cannot fathom anyone putting this record on more than a couple of times. I have tortured myself with it way more than that and I am beginning to develop a severe case of LOATHING for it.

Marquee Moon better be good or I am coming to whatever podunk town you live at gku and kickin yr ass!

do you want me to send you mp3's or something before buying it?

i doubt you will like marquee moon.

I never recommended Marquee Moon. As you'll recall, I recommended Cyborgs Revisited by Simply Saucer. I think it's far better than either Blank Generation or Marquee Moon. Plus everybody has Marquee Moon. You'd get more "coolness" cred for picking up Cyborgs.

OK. Time to hit BlackDog Records and Vinal Edge to try and find that Cyborgs, Simply Saucer.

marquee moon is so much better than blank generation. i think you'll like it.

hey rob, the "indie kids" and "hipsters" like marquee moon too, careful.

See this link for cover art and info... http://www.forcedexposure.com/artist...ly.saucer.html

youve never heard marquee moon? god i love that record.

on a side note; television, along with the other early nyc "punk bands" (suicide especially), are amazing bands but really arent punk rock to me. television i see as like an art rock band who influenced punk a little bit. i mean, they have 11 minute jam songs. just because malcolm mclaren liked how hell dressed and had the sex pistols dress like that doesnt necesarily make them a punk rock band in my eyes. the voidoids however are definitley punk rock.

Television is amazing. Marquee Moon, Adventure, and The Blow-up... all are fantastic albums. I just hesitate to recommend them to Rob, who clearly is not into that late-70s late-punk sound.

Hey, I just made up a genre name: late-punk.

he took that from the voidoids not television.

he does, at least he looks like he has to adopt the haino-pose for the pic before bursting out laughing or something.

and yeah, haino is fucking immortal, i bet dude was johann sebastian bach and all them music vanguardists and has been changing disguises through the centuries and breaking ground in music every century.

i have marquee moon too and it's a good record, however, my favourite television song, and probably their coolest song (little johnny jewel) is not on that record.

im not a big fan of adventure, and i didnt even know the voidoids were around in 76, i just thought malcolm took the look from hell exclusivley. it is a great look i might add.

Adventure is a great record. But don't buy it Rob!

i just got out of my classical music class and were learning about beethoven. first he played some really crappy commerical jingle from the 50s and then he played some hendrix, then he played some crappy classical tune from 1776 and then played a beethoven track, the implication being how radical beethoven was for his time. the hendrix thing was kinda a bad example considering how much wild music had already come out, but if he had played albert ayler or sun ra or something the non-musical loving kids in my class wouldnt have understood or cared.