loser

Uhhhhhhh.

I wish i could get into them. Love Boards of Canada, Aphex, and µ-ziq ( u have to listen to Duntisbourne Abbots Soulmate Devastation Technique if you don't know of it..its brilliant!).

Gonna keep trying tho. I'll go back to the ITunes samples. Ok, what would you advise starting with..?

I'd plough though this before if I were you. Jeff Mills and DJ Rolando especially.

I gathered that. 'You Messy Motherfucker' gives it away.

boring

I think ep7 might be a good place to start.

I think all their early stuff is a bit bland and predictable and straightforward. Even Autechre will admit that. Though each release does have some good stuff. I think they got better with every release... except Quaristice, which was a signifiant step down in quality from Untilted... and Oversteps which is a big step down from Quaristice. So perhaps they're starting their decline now.

I think all of their albums are great - Amber is actually one of my favorite albums, though of course it's not as original as what followed. I wouldn't say myself (but of course to each their own) that each album is better than the previous one - for me, their best one is definitely Confield and Draft 7.30 certainly isn't better than it imo... That said, I still think there is some kind of logic in the succession of their albums. Like, each album makes sense in the context of their whole discography, which I find interesting.
Like, they began with 90s-style ambient electronica, and then slowly got to a more complex, rhythm-based sound, each album being a step in that till LP5; then when complex rhythms are as important as melodies, they went on for pure abstraction on Confield, and then they continued in that abstract way by giving more and more space to the rhythms again until Untilted (which is their second best album for me). I feel like they reached the limits of that abstraction with Untilted, and I see Quaristice as a mean to sum up their whole discography and experiment on new things (shorter tracks, etc). I still haven't heard Oversteps but apparently it's focusing far more on melodies than beats, so that might be the next step: changing their focus, giving more importance to melodies than rhythms. Then again that might be pure craziness - and/or foolish ideas due to waking up too early

Oversteps is like 5 or 6 somewhat traditional Autechre tracks and the rest are beatless keyboard tinkerings. It's alright. Kinda boring.

i feel like a fanboy for saying this but i think this album really rules.

Autechre is one of my top 10 favorite artists of all time. Definitely my favorite electronic artist of all time. I'm def. a fanboy...

Still think this album's just decent though. Oh well.

i'm amazed at the fact that they can release a very melodic album - which i find very good -, and at the same time offer a completely different live experience - yet mindblowing. They were pretty amelodic when I saw them live last week, and massively relying on rhythms - some of them being pretty violent, which contrasts with the chill feel of Oversteps. I can't wait to see them again

So apparently they're going to release another ten-track record in July. http://autechre.ws/move-of-ten/
And it's got a 4-to-the-floor track on it. Awesome.

awesome, can't wait, thanks

yeah this is insane

yeah, this track is already a billion times better than anything on oversteps.

move of ten leaked, WAY better than oversteps or quaristice..

That sleeve is very similar to another one - Ikeda or Yakota or someone like that. Someone remind me who I'm thinking of please.

New track - great. Really good, well done lads.

I was thinking Ryoji Ikeda too... hmm.

It's seriously absurd how much better Move of Ten is than Oversteps. It actually might be my favorite release by them.

*cough*

Sweet. Saw them live a couple of months ago and am still trying to figure out whether I enjoyed it.
Thanks for the recommendation--hadn't heard there was a new album.

move of ten is so damn good!

Yes, Move of Ten RULES.

They've actually topped Untilted in my mind. What a perfect record. For an "ep", it's pretty damn long too. perfect length really.

I'd say Move of Ten is the best album of the year...

https://www.nts.live/projects/autechre-nts-residency/

These guys are currently making some of the most beautiful music of their entire career.

Tri Repetae is a good one.

EDIT: Although how TF is this only track 6? It seems like it drags on forever.

Heh, the accounting software I'm using for work experience has AE as the icon. I can't help but think of a certain duo.

You work in accounting? I used to be an auditor for 2 years - I hated it.

I'm working as one for a week, in order to get some real-world experience. I'm still a student most of the time.

Autechre Worked in Isolation for Decades. Now It’s Unintentionally Timely

In a rare interview, the British duo discuss the making of “SIGN” and infusing electronic music with a full spectrum of emotions.

Oct. 13, 2020

Physicists have verified a phenomenon called quantum entanglement, in which particles separated by great distances somehow exhibit perfectly matching behavior. It’s something like the workings of Autechre, the British duo of Sean Booth and Rob Brown, who have been tweaking and skewing electronic music since the late 1980s.

“In general, the more we feel restricted, the more we try to push against it,” Booth said in a rare interview via FaceTime, with Booth at “an undisclosed location” in Norway and Brown in Bristol, England.

Long before the pandemic, Booth and Brown had begun working in separate home studios using what they call “the rig” or “the system”: the only two copies of a frequently updated collection of hardware and software that produces their music, allowing them to record separately and then, when they feel it’s appropriate, to share and modify each other’s tracks. Often — as they collaborate via videoconferencing — they find that they’ve come up with similar ideas even before they’ve reconnected.

“We do behave differently,” Brown said. “We sometimes try to achieve the same goal, but with greatly differing approaches. But we really do get off on the fact that we’re on the same page most of the time.”

Booth and Brown are both from Rochdale, a town near Manchester, England, and they started collaborating on mixtapes and electronic music in the late 1980s. Neither had any formal music training; Brown studied architecture at art school, and Booth spent six months taking courses in audio engineering and electronics.

“I still don’t feel like a musician,” Booth said. “I don’t know what we are, because we came from messing around with other people’s records on tape. You just learn this stuff by listening to a lot of records and then having the equipment. Most of my training early on was equipment manuals.”


Over the course of dozens of albums, EPs and concert recordings, Autechre has evolved from making more-or-less club music — reflecting the techno, electro and hip-hop of the scene surrounding them in Manchester — toward ever more unpredictable instrumental pieces.


An Autechre track can be blissful or brutal, atonal or dulcet, pointillistic or enveloping, propulsive or hovering, minimal or maximal. Autechre’s project from early 2018 was eight hours of music commissioned by the wonderfully adventurous British online radio station NTS that Autechre later released as “NTS Sessions 1-4”; its finale, “all end,” was a 58-minute, subtly metamorphosing, ultimately transcendent drone piece.

Autechre’s chosen sounds are proudly synthetic and assembled with all of the post-human capabilities of computer processing. But even as it uses loops, programmed beats and complex algorithms, Autechre’s music defies the easy repetitions and obvious grids of so much electronic music. Tempos fluctuate, harmonies wander, timbres warp. No matter how unearthly the sounds are, there always seem to be hands twisting the (virtual) knobs at whim, always listening.
Autechre recorded the album it releases Friday, “SIGN,” through much of 2018 and 2019, and completed it in February and March, when the coronavirus was only beginning to affect Europe and the United States. As on nearly all of Autechre’s albums, the track titles are deliberately inscrutable: “si00,” “esc desc,” “psin AM.” The capitalized album title, Brown said, is “an initialization, but we don’t want to tell anybody what it stands for.”

Yet the albums’s overall mood — contemplative, melancholy, foreboding, subdued, but also jumpy and brittle at times — turned out to be prescient for a 2020 of isolation, uncertainty, political strife and economic devastation.

These are edited excerpts from a far-ranging two-hour conversation with Autechre.

How do you feel about the album when you listen to it now?

SEAN BOOTH It’s strangely jarring. It’s sort of too real. All this Covid stuff has put me in a really different place from where I was when we were just compiling it. Back then we were saying, “This is totally right.” But now I’m wondering if it’s too right. And I’m really feeling a bit self-conscious if I’m being totally honest. It’s difficult to listen to because it’s too emotionally resonant. I was going for making something pure and new and sort of surprising, and now I’ve ended up with something that’s almost predictable. So I’m reluctant to play it too much because I feel like that place it puts me in is perhaps a little bit too cathartic.

How was the album made?

BOOTH The actual process was all over the place. We tend to work better with as little direction as possible. It wasn’t probably for a year until we started to share tracks with each other.
ROB BROWN We were perhaps pushing our luck. We could have gone in completely different directions. But on the whole, we ended up strangely parallel. We found a weird, natural common ground.

The album’s opening track is “M4 Lema.” It starts out feeling less like music than like a rush of pure motion, and a lot of silences.

BOOTH That started out quite different. The beats were louder and it was more slamming. It went through various stages and Rob kept sending it to me slightly modified, and then eventually the beats were almost not there. It’s definitely a kind of slow builder. I think it probably took about three months to finish it in total. Sometimes I’ll just write bits of software, send them to Rob and then he’ll send to me these weird tracks. I don’t even know how he does half of them. Even though we’re the only people who use our software, he still manages to find an unorthodox way of using it.

BROWN I haven’t got a manual! [Laughs] You know, it depends what you want to do with an album. Does the track set you up for the second track or the third track? Or are there any loss leaders? Or is it a basic tonal vocabulary of what to expect throughout the album? It’s just basically a modern output of our current rebuilt system, you know, and some time spent with it.

Some electronic musicians create a program, let it run and select parts of the output. How does Autechre use algorithms?

BOOTH We don’t really do what you’d call generative music, where you just start the thing and then go away, and it just does its thing. Our music requires us to be there and to be guiding it and making changes in it. I’m still in the camp of people that says that, “Yes, you can probably automate things like the medical profession. You can probably automate things like the law profession.” But I’m not sure that art can be produced by computer. It may just be my limitations as a programmer. And it may be that someone will come along and apply machine learning in a way that’s actually emotionally gratifying. But for me personally, I can’t build systems that do that.
As I understand it, your latest system allows you to use many more channels, many more layers, than your previous setup.

BOOTH But when you’re building stuff up incrementally, even though you have the ability to add lots and lots of layers, you’re reluctant to add too many. I’ve done a lot of work to disguise the amount of stuff there is in there.

BROWN Suppose you are looking at a turned acrylic vase on a lamp stand. You might see loads of different layers, but it’s been on a lathe and it’s been curved and you’ll see a silhouette, and you’ll see light travel through it. You’ll get ideas about what its construction is or what its materials are but you still see one surface, one curve.

It seems that programming your own software and designing your own sounds is a crucial part of Autechre’s music.

BOOTH I’ve heard people say, “I’ll just pay somebody to do it for me,” and I’ll think, well, surely you’re not going to have all the weird little sort of ideas or thoughts along the way. It’s almost taking the joy out of it for yourself. I don’t know where it was decided that that work is necessarily soulless work, and that you can’t be inspired while you’re doing it. I quite like to build things and then forget how it works and then use it later on, and not really be able to remember what I was thinking about when I built it. It’s a little bit like working with yourself in a way, but from a time when you’re not aware of what you were thinking. You can get reacquainted with it in a sense, like you would with a person.

BROWN One charge that people level at us is where’s the emotion? Where’s the notes? Where’s the tunes? It’s nonsense.

BOOTH The issue for me has always been that I can feel it. So I wonder sometimes whether our emotions are too subtle for people to pick up on. You can’t think that we’re not feeling it. I mean, what would be the point in doing music if you weren’t feeling it?

Well, SIGN is amazing, shit

It's surprisingly accessible

another new one, even bouncier. yellowish ear floss, pure candy.

This was a pleasant surprise, I had no idea it was coming

I honestly wasn't as impressed with PLUS as I was with SIGN, the latter one had a bit more to latch on to.