This.

I am already heavily taxed.
most americans pay more than 40% of their income in taxes, when you add up sales taxes, income taxes, property taxes, luxury taxes, etc.

there is no way to judge the "classic"ness of an album until a good amount of time has passed.

for example, the first violent femems album, loved by nearly all people who hears it while they were/are teenagers, and arguably a classic in underground american rock, took over 20 years to go gold, to sell 500,000 units.
. some things are not appreciated in their time, and others, like BAD BRAIN's Black Dot, are loved as the clasic they are by just a few thousand people, who then go on to spread the word and form their own bands and write music influenced by the album, thereby cementing that album's place in the miasma that is pop music history

Slint Spiderland is a more recent example.

all we can do now is take guesses at which albums of the last 8 years will be so influential and so valued by the music fans/us.

but I can guarantee you it will NOT be any fucking animal collective album!

not me! :fuckyou:

Repped for exactness.

"instant classic".

Rob really hit the nail on the head.

Why are you telling me this?

because I deeply care about sharing all my intimacies with you, since you are the godhead, you are the alpha and the omega, you are the king of kings, the lord of lords, and I cannot stand it when you shun me.

rep fight.

I feel slighly violated by your post, Rob.

This thread doesn't really seem to be about classic albums, just albums that people who are way into music (which most of this board is made of) will hold in high esteem. Maybe, "personally classic" albums.

Classic albums are going to be pop. The White Stripes and Franz Ferdinand probably won't be, because as famous as they are they feel a lot like a fad. But Year Zero (NIN) has a good chance, In Rainbows and Kid A (Radiohead) are probably going to be, Graduation (Kanye West) is pretty much guarenteed. Beyond that it's very hard to tell right now, but if by "classic" you mean CDs that most people will still listen to in 30 years, it won't be Animal Collective. Or Xiu Xiu. In the broader spectrum of things, not many people listen to them now.

that is how I feel when I listen to xiu xiu full blast, like I got mind raped.
it is a great feeling actually. I love to have my mind blown.

I think that the only classic album by NIN will be preety hate machine, for it started their whole bullshit.
the other ones are just as valued by fans, but in the mass consciousness, it is pretty hate machine.

I find it much more interesting to discover that albums that are too soon deemed 'classic' influence legions of shite bands than wasting my time and energy deciding the ones that will be or won't be.

It's much easier to tell a band that has a future than being precise about the scope of (good or bad) influence that a record might have on other bands in the future. I find it also perversely amusing to read narrow-minded people so keen on pointless speculation.

Quality-wise, yeah. I think Downward Spiral will, too, because it revolutionized texture in pop. But now that I think about it, you're right. Nothing recent will at all.

kanye west? uh...

And yeah no one's going to remember xiu xiu.

Either Jay Z's the blue print or the black album
One of those will be known as one of the best rap albums of all time.

What the fuck does that mean?

Hahah.

I think he means "it has interesting production".

I didn't know that you get turned on by gay bands.

The Animal Collective backlash is hilarious. I like them. I don't really care if they're cool because Pitchfork says so, or if they're not cool because Pitchfork is not cool.

not in the physical sense, but in the mental brain-gasms? yeah, sure!

I just like my shit sonically violent, and xiu xiu do that very well.

gay/straight whatever.

Yeah, well I...Ahem. Yes. That.

deerhoof- the runners four

OH YEAH

kanye west's "graduation" and the strokes' "is this it" are GOOD.

there, i said it.

Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea

Sheer brilliance.

Lift To Experience - The Texas-Jerusalem Crossroads
The Rapture - Echoes
The Libertines - Up The Bracket

I thoroughly expect to be slated for at least one of those, probably two. Like I fucking care.

I liked that Libertines album...

fugazi- the argument
cassadaga, i'm wide awake it's morning, lifted- bright eyes
wolf parade- apologies to the queen mary
EVERYTHING by the silver jews and elliott smith

Lifted certainly should be; as consistent as he is I don't think he's done better. XO should, too, since it's flawless.

Relationship of Command - ATDI
De-loused - TMV
all the SY
all the Asobi Sesku
all the Astrobrite

haha i love astrobrite but no one's going to regard any of that stuff as a classic album... even though "whitenoisesuperstar" should be on everyone's playlist!

YES ASOBI SEKSU YES TMV

no one's going to remember mars volta either, except as that band that got piss thrown at them.

Classic, but not an album from the 2000s

Maybe...

Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People
Boris - Pink
Sonic Youth - Sonic Nurse

every damn one, smartass

yes, why? because they suck ass.

id rather be remembered for having piss thrown at me than having been responsible for 'frances the mute'.

Naaaah.

Plus Pink is probably one of Boris's worst albums, it's hella inconsistent.