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LittlePuppetBoy 07.08.2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
the pop group-y's


That was reissued by Rhino last year.

I'll say Blind Idiot God's material.

noisereductions 07.08.2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
A rapidshare or sharebee upload? Whatever's best for you.


Danny, I'll gladly help you as soon as I can... I just moved and don't have fast internet access at the moment. As soon as it's set up, I'll be yr Johnny on the spot.

noisereductions 07.08.2008 10:16 AM

There's some Yesterdays New Quintet 'season suites' that were promo only that I think should see a broad release.

Also, the GTO's album should see some kind of official release, at least for archival purposes. (Fans of Zappa/Beefheart need to check it out).

Danny Himself 07.08.2008 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
Danny, I'll gladly help you as soon as I can... I just moved and don't have fast internet access at the moment. As soon as it's set up, I'll be yr Johnny on the spot.


Thanks! PM when you're set and all that. :)

pantophobia 07.08.2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
whats the name of the james chance boxset? ive never heard of any such thing.


it's a 4 disc box called Irresistible Impulse released by tiger records

SYRFox 07.08.2008 10:30 AM

Raccoo-oo-oon: Is Night People
n0 things: Trees

StevOK 07.08.2008 10:56 AM

The stuff in my signature can fetch quite a pretty penny these days, since so few were printed.

floatingslowly 07.08.2008 11:27 AM

^^^ did I not get you Time Machine yet, or do you just not like it as much? :p

Toilet & Bowels 07.08.2008 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
 







i don't suppose that's worth any money?

StevOK 07.08.2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
^^^ did I not get you Time Machine yet, or do you just not like it as much? :p


You still havn't gotten it for me. :(

Everyneurotic 07.08.2008 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LittlePuppetBoy
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I'll say Blind Idiot God's material.


definitely.

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matando güeros is out of print? that's weird.

uhler 07.08.2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pantophobia
it's a 4 disc box called Irresistible Impulse released by tiger records


i had a dream about that box set last night.

Glice 07.08.2008 01:31 PM

Some of you people really need lessons in looking for records. A lot of records that are OOP are actually still floating about in stores.

Anyway. A vinyl copy of the Shaggs' philosophy of the world has eluded me at a reasonable price for a few years. And I've yet to see any sign of Datblygu's tapes (before wyau or pyst), but my inability to read Welsh might explain that one.

I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the fact that La Monte Young has yet to re-issue/ issue anything at a semi-reasonable price in a semi-reasonable quantity. Does this mean that everyone else has a lovely sprinkly re-mastered Young box-set that I've not seen?

MellySingsDoom 07.08.2008 02:21 PM

Glicester: Re. La Monte Young - Old La Monte has given the vast majority of his masters to a NY-based foundation. Evidently they've paid him a fair whack for them, as he's never agitated for their release back to him. If he wants his solo stuff to be permanently out of print, then fine, that's his prerogative. He should stop being such a git though and release at least one of the better Dream Syndicate recordings. Hearing those properly mastered would be a real treat.

Green Magnesium 07.08.2008 02:23 PM

Fleetwood Mac's catalog from 1969-1974.

Some of the albums sound decent... others sound like muddled messes. I would even be happy if the reissues had NO bonus tracks, as long as the audio was superior. Then Play On and Bare Trees , two of the band's best albums, are in particular need of some cleaning up.

Glice 07.08.2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Glicester: Re. La Monte Young - Old La Monte has given the vast majority of his masters to a NY-based foundation. Evidently they've paid him a fair whack for them, as he's never agitated for their release back to him. If he wants his solo stuff to be permanently out of print, then fine, that's his prerogative. He should stop being such a git though and release at least one of the better Dream Syndicate recordings. Hearing those properly mastered would be a real treat.


Granted... but he's a composer. Recordings aren't the stock-and-trade of composers. I know he operates in the field of electro-acoustic thingummy, but if there can be multiple-renderings (if not recording) of Wolff, Tenney, Cage, Stockhausen, Riley, Koenig, Nono, Palestine and the like, I can't see why he can't join on the action. Some of his pieces are utterly glorious (I'm thinking the well-tuned piano) and he's just coming across as protectionist and a smidge of a Wagnerian by refusing the conditions of release of his art. I mean, you'd think it was hard enough playing what he does without making it even harder for himself.

Danny Himself 07.08.2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i don't suppose that's worth any money?


What?

MellySingsDoom 07.08.2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Recordings aren't the stock-and-trade of composers.


Correctamundo. In a way, what he should be doing is allowing ensembles to perform his work without him "being" there, if you see what I mean. I mean, if the notoriously hands-on Stockhausen was pretty relaxed about other ensembles/groupings around the world doing his scores, then you'd think that LMY would at least consider it. But no.

Glice 07.08.2008 02:56 PM

Stockhausen was an utter, utter bastard. Clearly. I mean that in a 'look at the mad (dead) bastard way, what a mad bastard!' with the subterfuge of respect for him being a bastard. And if Stockhausen can have a life outside of his bastardness, where does that leave LMY? No-where, that's where.

batreleaser 07.08.2008 03:00 PM

la monte was incredible. the theater of eternal music-day of niarga record was incredible. just some guys jamming (well, not exactly just "some guys") and creating music that was fucking monstorous. even by today's brutal as fuck harsh noise standards, that record sounds pretty intense. i first heard about it through a blastitude review and then insantly got on my amazon account and got to searching, was not dissapointed.

me. 07.08.2008 04:43 PM

an album from a while back -
www.discogs.com/release/176781
and also the first Nick Blinko book - granted it's not an album!.

Savage Clone 07.08.2008 04:51 PM

Cosmic Invention - Help Your Satori Mind, preferably on vinyl.

HECKLER SPRAY 07.08.2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Most of Unwound's catalogue.
Everything Luke Vibert has done
Atomizer by Big Black
AND PAVEMENT NEED TO FUCKIN' RE-ISSUE BRIGHTEN THE CORNERS IN DELUXE FORM:mad::mad:


Agreed.



Drive Like Jehu 1st album.
Jesus and Mary Chain : a propper CD version of Psychocandy. Please.

Savage Clone 07.08.2008 05:30 PM

What's the availability of "Nurses Song With Elephants" by David Bedford?
That one's pretty fantastic.

Also, I will continue to press for the reissue of the Birdmen Of Alkatraz' "Glidin' Off" EP, hopefully packaged as a bonus disc with their (not as great, but still more than worthy of reissue) LP, "From The Birdcage."

Top-notch late 80s Italian psych there.

Glice 07.08.2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
just some guys jamming (well, not exactly just "some guys")


Not just some guys, and not just jamming, to my ears. People jamming create Phish and Grateful Dead. Maybe this is why LMY doesn't sanction anything - he wants to retain the mystique of the 'legend'. I'll go back to the well-tuned piano: there's a phenomenal restraint, a respect for sounds that makes it a very specific sort of improvisation. He studied under that Indian fellow whose name escapes me. It's maybe that he creates very specific improvisations that require his presence, require his say-so. Operates between Western and Eastern classical. You can understand him being precious, but there's a danger that once he's gone, he'll be entirely forgotten, while Terry Riley (a subordinate composer, to my ears) will be better remembered. And it'll be his own fault. Lou Harrison is good, very good, but I'd be annoyed if he's better remembered for being the American musico-syncretist of choice over LMY.

Savage Clone 07.08.2008 05:32 PM

Are you thinking of Pandit Pran Nath?

Glice 07.08.2008 05:33 PM

I don't see the point of 'deluxe' re-issues. No Pavement albums would've been enough. Even someone I like (let's say, SY) shouldn't really faff about with deluxe re-issues. Get the original, or a re-issue, but there's very good reason out-takes are out-takes.

Glice 07.08.2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Are you thinking of Pandit Pran Nath?


Thanks, I couldn't see my Indian section from where I'm sat.

*Edit: still can't, as I'm sat in the same place. What a rubbish thing to say.

Toilet & Bowels 07.08.2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I don't see the point of 'deluxe' re-issues. No Pavement albums would've been enough. Even someone I like (let's say, SY) shouldn't really faff about with deluxe re-issues. Get the original, or a re-issue, but there's very good reason out-takes are out-takes.


agreed, stick b-sides and non-album tracks on their own compilations, there's no need to spoil the running of a great album by sticking tuff titty rap or satan is boring on the end.

Glice 07.08.2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
agreed, stick b-sides and non-album tracks on their own compilations, there's no need to spoil the running of a great album by sticking tuff titty rap or satan is boring on the end.


I have some fancy re-issue of 'live at the witch trials'. Other than the main album (the only one of theirs I nearly never listen to), it's just guff.

From a fans point of view, I don't see the point. I have all the Mogwai Young Team out-takes on tape (somewhere, they may have been lost). I don't really need to re-buy the album. If I want a rarity, I'll download it, and there's usually good reason something's a rarity (i.e., it's not as good/ guff).

From a marketing point of view, I don't see the point. People new to the band won't buy it, people who're faint fans won't bother and the hardcore surely can't be a large enough market. Maybe prior to the whole downloading shizzy, when you had to write letters to fanzine writers (I have some exceptionally rare Radiohead stuff on tape that I've still not seen online) and exchange some rubbish for a tape of something that you really didn't care about once you'd left school, it makes sense. But otherwise, just cock.

Having said that, I really admire Trent Reznor's tiered approach to fans: those who don't care, get it free; Those who care a bit, get it cheap; Those who like physical things, get it at normal (and a bit); those who like fancy things, get it at a bit more; those obsessive knobs who'll buy any old cack, pay the studio bills and buy me a new conservatory. Smart business acumen.

demonrail666 07.08.2008 05:51 PM

Yes, the whole 'bonus track' thing on reissues is an absolute nuisance. Same as the Director's cut in film.

demonrail666 07.08.2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I have some fancy re-issue of 'live at the witch trials'. Other than the main album (the only one of theirs I nearly never listen to), it's just guff.


Your principle about the guff of reissue 'bonus' material is spot on. Although I would say that Live at the Witch Trials is one of the few instances where I can forgive the whole concept. If you'd said Dragnet, however, I'd agree entirely. Even though I prefer Dragnet, there's only so many times you can hear anlother take of Rowche Rumble.

Glice 07.08.2008 05:58 PM

I think the Fall are exceptional insofar as, if you can be bothered to sit through the second CD of 'live...', you can probably also be bothered to not buy it and hold on for the next record (probably due around June of next year).

Toilet & Bowels 07.08.2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Even though I prefer Dragnet, there's only so many times you can hear anlother take of Rowche Rumble.


i was going to mention that

SuperCreep 07.08.2008 06:16 PM

 

Death & the Maiden 07.08.2008 07:30 PM

The entire Verlaines catologue (all that's currently available is the best of and their most recent)
The entire Haunted Henschel catologue (which hasn't been released on CD yet)
The entire Ed Kuepper catologue (some of his albums have been reissued, but the rest is expensive and hard to find)
Fimbulwinter - Servants of Sorcery (Fimbulwinter was the first band of Dimmu Borgir's Shagrath, I would have thought this would be in demand)

Death & the Maiden 07.08.2008 07:34 PM

Bonus tracks and CD's on reissued albums annoy me. If a whole extra CD is released with the original album, I'll never listen to it. Demos of the songs on the original album are usually pointless (the Ramones are guilty of this - by putting demos on the album, they've pretty much put certain songs on the album twice).

ZEROpumpkins 07.08.2008 07:48 PM

Yeah that also shits me off to no end, D&TM.
It's just an excuse for them to charge more for their albums, really.

pantophobia 07.08.2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I don't see the point of 'deluxe' re-issues. No Pavement albums would've been enough. Even someone I like (let's say, SY) shouldn't really faff about with deluxe re-issues. Get the original, or a re-issue, but there's very good reason out-takes are out-takes.


for the most part i agree, it disrupts the flow of the whole album most of the time

the only one that really works for me is the dirty deluxe with the addition of destroyed room and genetic it blends quite seemlessly into the album and makes one wonder why they were left off in the first place (the bio does say why though)

ZEROpumpkins 07.08.2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I don't see the point of 'deluxe' re-issues. No Pavement albums would've been enough. Even someone I like (let's say, SY) shouldn't really faff about with deluxe re-issues. Get the original, or a re-issue, but there's very good reason out-takes are out-takes.

If you've heard some of Pavement's B-Sides you might think different. CRCR deluxe is track after track of pure win.


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