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nicfit 05.19.2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddlesplasher
Because it's brilliant. I would kill to see SY perform 'NYC Ghosts & Flowers' live.


I'm sorry/glad to inform you that it's the highlight of all my sonic youth live experiences (goodbye 20th century tour).
I can't even express how I felt after hearing that live...

btw, when I think about this album I "feel" a sense of spaciousness (:eek:) and fullfilling emptiness (:eek::eek:)
like floating on the sea at dawn


 

and shiny metal under the rain at night, and mirrors.
magic.

EVOLghost 05.19.2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddlesplasher
Because it's brilliant. I would kill to see SY perform 'NYC Ghosts & Flowers' live.



I would kill just to see SY....however it is not needed...so I haven't.

Skuj 05.19.2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
nevermind


I'M SORRY BUT I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER IT OK? DON'T GET SMART.

nicfit 05.19.2009 03:24 PM

ha ha, I don't know wether you're kiddin or not, but I was dead serious eh! :D

(Kim)

best + sexy what was it anyway
jean-michel what was it anyway
saw you there what was it anyway
kneel right down what was it anyway
guitar on the ground what was it anyway
lost yr hand what was it anyway
hipsters stand what was it anyway
glitter tongue what was it anyway
gave you a flower what was it anyway
gave you the power what was it anyway
saintly ghost what was it anyway
tingling down what was it anyway
nevermind what was it anyway

soot me over / feel me naked
soot me over / feel me escape

boys go to jupiter to get more stupider
girls go to mars, become rock stars
boys go to jupiter to get more stupider
girls go to mars, become rock stars
boys go to jupiter to get more stupider
girls go to mars, become rock stars
boys go to jupiter to get more stupider
girls go to mars, become rock stars

come on down down to the river
come on down and jump right in
come on down i dare you to win now
come on down and down my friend
come on down and jump in the river
come on down and jump right in yeh

amerikangod 05.19.2009 03:35 PM

Wait, people actually like 'Lightnin'? I haven't listened to this album in a long time.

joe11121 05.19.2009 03:39 PM

I like the music in Lightnin' but I think the vocals ruin it. It should have been an instrumental track

amerikangod 05.19.2009 03:45 PM

'StreamXsonik Subway' is one of those songs that is permanently linked to a memory for me, so much so that it's impossible to separate the two. And it's not a meaningful link, just one of those 'I happened to be listening to this song as I was performing this activity, and now the two are fused' scenarios.

In any case it's not a bad memory. It's just a random one. I was playing a lot of Mario 64 while listening to the album shortly after it came out. 'StreamXsonik Subway' just happened to come on while I was in the 'Lethal Lava Land' level where you're inside of the volcano making your way to the top, jumping from pole to pole way above the flaming base. It's those aerial pole jumps that are linked to the song the most, and vice versa.

brb starting a thread for this

SonicBebs 05.19.2009 03:53 PM

i think the whole album would be amazing instrumental

i love it like it is but i think it would be more powerful with just the music

jon boy 05.19.2009 03:58 PM

this is my joint favourite record. its atmospheric, more inventive and after the guitar theft shows that they can continue in more interesting wats. having said that pretty much every record after bar parts of murray street sucks.

al shabbray 05.19.2009 04:04 PM

for me the devil is in the details.
its like every sound there is wanted, melting that thing into just one great experience. its like on every orourke produced SY album, I dig what he did with the sound of them.
alone the opener track is just beautiful.

sarramkrop 05.19.2009 04:11 PM

My favourite tracks on it are 'Renegade Princess' and 'Small Flowers Crack Concrete'.

Skuj 05.19.2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
ha ha, I don't know wether you're kiddin or not, but I was dead serious eh! :D


I was just being silly.

Fuckin, Lightnin should have started the record. I love the way Thurston "sings" Small Flowers Crack Concrete. It's a very moving performance.

[Sandbag] 05.19.2009 09:36 PM

because it's like a book of poems with music

o'connor 05.20.2009 08:12 AM

because it is... that's why. :)

Neongod 05.20.2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
nevermind


...and Renegade Princess

greedrex 05.20.2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit

btw, when I think about this album I "feel" a sense of spaciousness (:eek:) and fullfilling emptiness (:eek::eek:)
like floating on the sea at dawn



and shiny metal under the rain at night, and mirrors.
magic.

 

Nic sans beard circa 2000

viewtiful_alan 05.20.2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicBebs
i think the whole album would be amazing instrumental

i love it like it is but i think it would be more powerful with just the music

Agreed, aside from Lee's songs and nevermind.

bloodcrystallisetosand 05.21.2009 05:46 AM

i thought that it was the LEAST regarded album - it's the one that had that lass writing the review calling for them to split up out of fear that they'd sink to even more dispicable depths. that, coupled with similar if slightly less extreme reviews i'd read, and that the only song i'd heard on it, nevermind, had the worst lyrics i've ever come across (within music that i've actually chosen to listen to, rather than just being on the telly/radio/etc), meant that i gave it a seriously wide berth until the last couple of months...

i've discovered that it's pretty good, but i don't get the mindblowingness that the rest of the board seems to get. i think that it fits really nicely into the discography as an intermediary between atl and murray street, but it seems to be the least structured of the records and i personally see it as more syr than sy regular, too free and loose.

also i bet it pissed geffen right off when it got dropped to them to try and promote - wierdest record ever put out by a major label?

atsonicpark 05.21.2009 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodcrystallisetosand
wierdest record ever put out by a major label?


Probably a butthole surfers record or boredoms - pop tatari or white noise - an electrical storm or "Trout Mask Replica" or "Disco Volante" or....... well, there's been all kinds of weird albums put out by major labels over the years.

Definitely the weirdest one in more recent years though.

atsonicpark 05.21.2009 05:52 AM

I really like your username, btw, bloodcrystalizedtosand.

bloodcrystallisetosand 05.21.2009 06:48 AM

cheers man :) i'd forgotten about that white noise lp, it's awesome, side 2 is sheer terror. you'd never guess it was a mild-mannered middle class english woman doing the proto-tago-mago-stockhausen tape manipulation freakout shit wouldja?

al shabbray 05.21.2009 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Sandbag]
because it's like a book of poems with music


couldnt agree more...
its like the perfect example for books who sound like what they are about. again: stunning piece of art.

and somehow I think it sounds like it looks: white, bright, sunny and at the same time dark.

nicfit 05.21.2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by al shabbray
and somehow I think it sounds like it looks: white, bright, sunny and at the same time dark.

check my post in a previous page, do the "images" I describe work for you?
I'm serious about this.

al shabbray 05.21.2009 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
check my post in a previous page, do the "images" I describe work for you?
I'm serious about this.


I totally feel what you are meaning with this picture, buuut the picture itself does look a little bit too...warm?!
the white picture with the bitmapped/pixelated face I so much adore from you, looks like NYG&F sounds!!!!!

its a mixture of these kind of pics with a lot of plain white and pictures of the sky/clouds where the sunlight is breaking through. I agree with you description!
I hope you get what I am trying to say

summer 05.21.2009 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodcrystallisetosand
also i bet it pissed geffen right off when it got dropped to them to try and promote - wierdest record ever put out by a major label?

I don't know. I think Mr. Bungle's self-titled has NYCG&F beat on that level.

nicfit 05.21.2009 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by al shabbray
buuut the picture itself does look a little bit too...warm?!


YES!
I wanted a more "algid" one but couldn't find it. less saturated colours and a kinda less "busy" image would have worked better.
let's do our secret handshake to celebrate our common imagery semantics!

al shabbray 05.21.2009 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
YES!
I wanted a more "algid" one but couldn't find it. less saturated colours and a kinda less "busy" image would have worked better.
let's do our secret handshake to celebrate our common imagery semantics!


YES!!!
*handshakeALOT*
thats exactly what I was trying to say about that picture, but with more words :) hahahah

afterthefact 05.21.2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summer
Like I'm genuinely interested. I've never seen the appeal in it. Only thing I ever hear on it is "the title track is Lee's best song", yet that song kind of bores me. What is it about the album that you enjoy, for anyone who is in love with it?


Ha, I was just about to post about this being my favorite album at the moment.

Free City Rhymes is the only song that I could do without. I don't dislike it; I'm just not usually feeling it.

I hate to be redundant, but the title track is the best. The freakin' climax almost makes me climax, if you catch my drift. And I think you do.

sarramkrop 05.21.2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodcrystallisetosand
cheers man :) i'd forgotten about that white noise lp, it's awesome, side 2 is sheer terror. you'd never guess it was a mild-mannered middle class english woman doing the proto-tago-mago-stockhausen tape manipulation freakout shit wouldja?


that record is a masterpiece.

MARKJONES 05.28.2009 03:26 PM

NYC Ghosts & Flowers are for those who just want to listen to something refreshing and different.

And that's exactly why this album rocks.

cagedbird 06.15.2009 01:31 PM

i like the argument that NYCG&F is a nice transition from ATL to Murray Street. We should all pause and think about presence, place and poetry. Wherever we are.

Newfoundland 06.21.2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicBebs
i think the whole album would be amazing instrumental

i love it like it is but i think it would be more powerful with just the music



There is a bootleg i found called"Live 1999 Seattle 05/09: Bumbershoot" that is pretty much the whole album instrumentally..

mysonichaircut 06.21.2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Newfoundland
There is a bootleg i found called"Live 1999 Seattle 05/09: Bumbershoot" that is pretty much the whole album instrumentally..


is it lossless and sbd? and if so, could you share it - please?

Newfoundland 06.21.2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mysonichaircut
is it lossless and sbd? and if so, could you share it - please?



You find it here : http://www.freewebs.com/sonikyouth/ under "Live" along with alot of other stuff. But most of you probably know the page?

chrome noise tape 06.21.2009 04:46 PM

 

Newfoundland 06.21.2009 04:57 PM

???

SonicBebs 06.22.2009 07:30 AM

thats pretty awsome, but
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Newfoundland 06.22.2009 07:34 AM

Hmm, weird.. The site works for me.

chicka 01.16.2010 11:23 AM

Just tried the site it said "file not found". What a shame as I am one of those who loves this album. Right from the get go. The last few minutes of the title song are the best interwoven guitar riffs the two of them have ever produced imo.

chicka 01.16.2010 11:36 AM

http://sonicyouth.utkonos.org/lossle...05.aud.flac16/

I found the seattle show of NYC Ghosts and Flowers at this location and it seems I'm downloading the files as flac files


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