Yeah, I have several live shows from 97 and they played "And Then" at all of them, crazy how it wasn't on the record. Even weirder, they announce it as "The Hexx" a few times, so the "And Then" title didn't stay very long.

They also play Westie Can Drum on practically every 97 show I have... It was probably pretty close to being on the album.

~Jeremy~

if you look on the back of TT, between the last two songs it's says "And Then..." "The Hexx"

^^ yes
love this song. very pure sounding.

I always thought (and maybe read somewhere?) that SY was inspired by Pavement when they recorded JET SET. Which is like a snake eating its tail, since Pave obviously had to be inspired by SY (they covered EXPRESSWAY live and dedicated "In The Mouth" to SY live).

Anywaay, back to TT... I think that the guitar parts on "You Are A Light" are up there with "Grounded" or any other transcendent Pavement Guitar track.

i like "you are the light" and "cream of gold"

LOVE GROUNDED TOO

and while we are talking about pavement gutiar tracks,
"half a canyon"
and
"rattled by the rush"
kick sooo much ass

and pretty much everything on crcr

I always thought that was a great touch. What a great band. I can't wait to see them live when they reform......it's bound to happen, eventually.

I must be one of the two hunderd people that love Terror Twilight.

People I know it's a bit smooth but please give it another spin

Love it.

198 to go :P

what's 'dead-air'?

another poster on here. I was making a joke.

"old intuition, on your dock we're fishin"

Slanted remains my favorite Pavement record followed closely by Wowee Zowee. The Luxe/Reduxe reissue is so fucking good too. I've always thought that a band who's b-sides are just as good and sometimes better than their album tracks is really worth something. Love Pavement.

Dude espessial their early stuff! There are SO many songs that I wish they had decided to put on Slanted instead of "Chelsea's Little Wrists"

woah! "Chelsea's Little Wrists" is fantastic!

I think that is all that needs to be said.

Agreed! I used to have that shirt! I wonder what happneed to it.

ill be terror twilight fan #3. i prefer it to brighten the corners.
there i said it.

I have that shirt!

Great band. Terror Twilight is boring.

Same here. Even I think Shady Line might be my favorite pavement single

exactly

yr talking about S&E? I find it baffling that anyone could find that S&E does not beg for repeated listens.


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also, remember when I was talking about great guitar tracks by Pavement? I thought of another up there with "Grounded" and "You Are A Light".... f'ing "Father To A Sister Of Thought"... that song is so unreal to me. I love it so so much.

Box Elder. What a song. See that clip on Slow Century when they're playing it in the street?....it's total awesome. I'd love to buy Gary Young a beer or something, kick back and listen to his fave band....Yes!

GY took acid every day for a year. What a nut-job!

Yeah -- that Slow Century DVD is great.

haha i think the DVD is wonderful jsut because they didn't try at all. half the interviews are in some random sauna, and the graphics and old interviews are poorly put together.

shitty quality, but for a "pavement documentary" it's perfect

Malkmus mentions Beefheart on it.

Slow Century has fucking MARK PRINDLE in it!

slow century proves to all that:
a. lollapalooza was a ridiculous idea
b. bob nastanovich is the coolest member of pavement

Sadly, I've always really really liked Pavement, and have had moments bordering on totally falling for them, but could never really make that leap to full on doe-eyed obsession. I guess it's because I only came to them in the 00s, after having been into a lot of "indie" stuff like Sonic Youth, the Minutemen, ETC for some time already. It was too late for them to be that ear-opening band for me, so they'll always just be "another (great) indie rock group", rather than something truly integral to my musical being. That being said, S&E and CRCR are both fantastic records, they have written some of my favourite songs (more love for Gold Soundz!), and yes, the reissues are pretty much the benchmark for these things. I keep meaning to check out their post CRCR output, but I've just never gotten around to it...

Pavement has always sort of been my "2nd favorite band" band. (but then y'know there's a few others too)

same here NR, theyre always gonna be right in second place for me

Slanted and Enchanted was an awesome album.

It's been a while since I heard Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain in its entirety (sp?), but the songs I've heard more than once tell me it's good.

Wowee Zowee was great.

I've never heard Brighten The Corners or Terror Twilight front to back, but the songs I've heard off those albums make me think Pavement peaked with Wowee Zowee.

My second fluctuates between Pavement, Sebadoh & Stereolab. Or The Fall.

Pavement are a band I was into heavily for a few weeks and then never had the desire to hear them again.

This album was definitely their best one but a lot of their material seemed dull to me.

you guyz are still discussing Pavement??? hahahahahahaha

We're crazy and love great music. We need to learn better I guess.

~Jeremy~

ist rad

Are you also well versed in rhetoric?

Depends on the rhetoric in question. ;)

~Jeremy~