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gast30 09.05.2010 05:03 AM

i don't understand what you are talking about
i can take him serouisly
most people care for animals

and do alot to make the world a better place

the thing is you don't have to wait
you can join in and give some help too

me personally
live vegatarian
have no pets
i think they belong to the nature animal world
and i let them live there

we humans have caused enough trouble in this planet
destroyed ecosystems
we have to be really carefully before we destroy more
and then you can tell your childeren
what it was all about

ann ashtray 09.05.2010 05:18 AM

I DO help, I've taken in strays and cared for many sick animals including birds with broken wings and found places for them to get help. I love animals...but this doesn't mean I wouldn't play a gig in a town because the town has slaughterhouses or some shit like that.

Living in a city like Macon, GA...taking in an animal (esp. cats + dogs) as pets is a beautiful thing. There are many strays around here, and the way we've bred them through the years, the way we've forced them to evolve, many of them depend on us human being anyways. My cat was a stray...I was walking around downtown one day and this little orange kitten started following me...eventually trailing behind me all the way to my apartment. That can chose to live with me. Pets aren't a bad thing, dude. This isn't to say that I think ALL animals make for good pets, but many of them do.

And yes, we humans are destroying the planet. Destroying things is what we have always (sadly...) been best at.

pbradley 09.05.2010 05:39 AM

Really, though, using racism as a tool of moral criticism is not only ineffectual but counter-productive for organizations like the Chinese Animal Protection Network.

gast30 09.05.2010 05:46 AM

what you have done good is good

if you see it in a bigger picture the pet thing ,duudee
you see that there are 1 billion people in hunger

www.1billionhungry.org

it's a waste of energy
i rather give food to humans then animals
and get my feet on the ground

gast30 09.05.2010 05:59 AM

they are doing a lot of good things in china

Keeping It Simple 09.05.2010 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
Really, though, using racism as a tool of moral criticism is not only ineffectual but counter-productive for organizations like the Chinese Animal Protection Network.


Are you defending China's abysmal human rights record just for the sake of PC posturing?

FreshChops 09.05.2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
Yay, looks like FreshPlops has become my personal troll. Fantastic.

westernquinoxrocks, sway, and now freshchops

Oh, the impotent rage.



c'mon, where's your sense of humor?

Aww, It reminds me of a time when I first started posting in this forum again (after the format change) and out of the blue, in response to a random "irrelevant" post I made you went off on a long completely unwarranted and unrelated tirade about me as "boring, tow-the-line..." something or other. I remember you because it was so random. As I've come to know you, my impression that you've got underachiever issues directed at others that might reflect the opposite of you is way beyond obvious now. All respect, much less sympathy for you dwindled with your eager to insult, comfort with my newcomer status, introduction I was meet by you with. Wow, who would have figured you yourself as a boring, tow-the-line individual desparataly redirecting your self doubt and regret towards others.... geee.

In the words of Seth from Superbad, "People dont' forget". Yeah, off the bat, it was that obvious that you have issues with your own aimless shortcomings and mask your own lack of personality by an expanded vocabulary.

Call it a troll, or whatever makes it less relevant to you, but it's funny how when you don't try and talk to people like a complete fucking cunt, which you clearly have made yourself to me, people won't respond to you like a fucking cunt. Look no further than your closing remark. Your cockiness has no fucking limits. If you were constantly quoting wiser than yourself literature when not using intolerant, semi-sociable vocabulary, it would be all dandy and sometimes interesting.... but your just a quick to elude to your semi-human-dictionary type persona as an attempt to validate your remarks as superior to others thoughts.

Saying, it's not that you talk like a bookworm fag (your clever self regretting, putting words in my mouth insult that you gave yourself), but it's the fact that because you talk like a bookworm fag, you conclude your remarks as if they are inferior to anyone else just by default.

But, as you would wish, my comments all derive from impotent rage therefor would be irrelevant. But, I'm talking irrelevantly, I think you (of all people) should be restricted from using the term "twat". I can only take hypocrisy in small doses.

Anyways, If I can rely on you to come up with hilarious new "grade-school" slandered version of my profile name every time, it's all worth it. Neat'o!

ann ashtray 09.05.2010 06:58 AM

Allow me to psychoanalyze pbradley:

I'd assume (+ could be wrong about all of the following) that he was widely regarded as being one of the most intelligent kids in the class. Reads a lot of books. Above average comprehension skills on most subjects. I remember him saying once he was an eagle scout (not an easy feat...). An over achiever academically. Most def. some inner complexities going on that lead him to flaunt the things he knows he's good at (ie, attempting, and often being successful @ talking above people's heads, even if only due to a large vocabulary of words most fail to understand).

I also assume (and again...could be wrong) that he feels despite all of his achievements/intelligence...he himself fails in many areas even yr typical under-achiever excels in....simple shit, like relationships. I also assume he's often looked at as arrogant, and even though sometimes he may behave as such on purpose...he really isn't.

I assume he's lonely and miserable.

Again, could be wrong about every bit of this.

He gets on my nerves sometimes, but I like the kid.

nicfit 09.05.2010 07:05 AM

You guys are ubelievable.
This whole page is unbelievable.

Glice 09.05.2010 07:11 AM

Did swa(y) just 'psychoanalyse' Bradders? Isn't that a bit of a case of the pot calling the kettle an over-excitable retard?

I jest, of course. I've got a lot of time for ole' Bradders' self-deprecation/ loathing.

Derek 09.05.2010 07:19 AM

I think sway just made SYG history to be fairly honest.

I personally think pbradley should act more like an arrogant twat:
Quote:

It's hilarious that you need to construct some rational in order to dismiss my opinion as ignorance and not accept it as a matter of preference.
See? That's like a realer Keeping It Simple folks.

Genteel Death 09.05.2010 07:39 AM

I knew it would end up like this. Internet hatred has become an increasingly abstract concept, just seldom entertaining anymore. Why anyone would give a shit about someone disliking you on this forum is beyond me.

hevusa 09.05.2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
:)

Yeah, Morrissey has pretty much always been a douche. I've known some cooler fans, but most tend to respond to him in the same prickish manner U2 fans respond to Bono. Annoying.

"How dare you? You know how much good Bono does for the world?"...yeah, fuck that shit. Morrissey fans are almost always the same way.


ex-fucking-actly
douchery

Genteel Death 09.05.2010 10:17 AM

You're slowly dying and you don't even know it. How ridiCULous.

Genteel Death 09.05.2010 12:43 PM

Who else thinks Johnny Marr was an amazing guitarist?

demonrail666 09.05.2010 01:52 PM

Noel Gallagher

pbradley 09.06.2010 12:20 AM

Holy fuck, what sharp teeth time fashions. And to think that I tried to turn a less hostile leaf.

Well, Freshchops, I didn't know we started off on such bad foot. While you remember, I do not. If forgiveness is equally as eternal as antipathy, I'm sorry and would like to start anew on a less cuntish note. I think it's important to remember how susceptible the internet is to being a place of catharsis of IRL frustration. That's hardly a unique phenomenon on the internet but, as I take it, apart of the nature of the beast. Certainly my past angst in the face of unemployment was wicked but I'm no longer in that position. I really have quite a new life here on the other side of the world.

alteredcourse 09.06.2010 12:23 AM

i bet when you fuck you let it all out. or do you? I hope so. in some form or manner.

brak's dad 09.08.2010 03:32 PM

I once met a chinaman and he was very respectful. He recognized that my mustache is something to be bowed to, he also brought me rice in a paper box as a sign of goodwill. This morrisey is a fool!

Keeping It Simple 09.09.2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brak's dad
I once met a chinaman and he was very respectful. He recognized that my mustache is something to be bowed to, he also brought me rice in a paper box as a sign of goodwill. This morrisey is a fool!


Does Morrissey try to crush you to death in a tank when you protest about something? No. Now bugger off.

atsonicpark 09.09.2010 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Who else thinks Johnny Marr was an amazing guitarist?


He's one of the best of all time. He's really the only reason anyone cares about the Smiths, in any way. I mean, no one at all cares about Morrissey solo. He's like Courntey Love. I don't hear anything about 'em for a while and assume they're dead, and then someone posts about them on SYG.

Rob Instigator 09.09.2010 09:03 AM

I care DEPLY about Morrissey solo, and so do the tens of thousands that flock to his concerts man.

his solo stuff can be hit or miss, but when it hits it is JUST AS AMAZING AND FUCKING BRILLIANT as any Smiths track.

atsonicpark 09.09.2010 09:18 AM

Uh, riiiight. Have fun with that!!

I'd love to go to a Morrissey solo show, actually. Just to hear "Hand in Glove" and "There Is a Light that Never Goes Out", songs he's still most famous for despite releasing like 11 solo albums since the Smiths broke up!

...Unless a person just doesn't care about, y'know, good songs and stuff, I can't comprehend how anyone could possibly find relevance in Morrissey and his merry band of random no-name session musicians -- Vauxhall and I is his only listenable record... it has like 5 great songs and the rest is... well... not so good. Most of his solo albums are SO boring that it's unbearable. I mean, the random song.. "Suedehead" (aka "This song really sounds like the Smiths!"), y'know.. is alright.. but The Smiths blow Morrissey solo out of the water... and he'll always live in their shadow because he hasn't done anything noteworthy since breaking them up besides say Chinese people are a "subspecies" and other "shock" quotes every now and then to remind people he still exists.

gualbert 09.09.2010 11:19 AM

I think Morrissey solo is much better than the Smiths (at least the records I got: Viva Hate, Kill Uncle, Bona Drag)
Plus the use of cello, piano, keyboards etc. makes his music more "colorful" and it suits his bitter pop (the Smiths instrumentation was a bit too grim).

atsonicpark 09.09.2010 11:59 AM

Hmm... maybe there is a whole world of Moz-solo lovers out there... hmm

DeadDiscoDildo 09.09.2010 12:03 PM

Morrisey is retarded. Not because of this. But because he's a vegetarian who throws hissy fits yet wears leather.

SuperCreep 09.09.2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I care DEPLY about Morrissey solo, and so do the tens of thousands that flock to his concerts man.

his solo stuff can be hit or miss, but when it hits it is JUST AS AMAZING AND FUCKING BRILLIANT as any Smiths track.

troof.

vauxhall & i > every other smiths album that isn't hatful of hollow or the queen is dead

and i fucking love the smiths.

Rob Instigator 09.09.2010 12:13 PM

Bona Drag, Viva Hate, Kill Uncle, You Are The Quarry are fucking awesome albums. Not perfect, but the Smiths never released a "perfect" album either.

Both are amazing and fabulous.

Glice 09.09.2010 12:16 PM

I was just about to say that Mozza had Aziz Ibrahim in his backing band, then I realised I was thinking of Ian Brown. I quite like him. Baz Boorer is alright as a musician. As good as anyone else, surely?

Decayed Rhapsody 09.09.2010 12:56 PM

People who care more about animals than the welfare of human beings on this planet need to be ground upon the wheel. Moz's head is so far up his own ass. Why so dour after all these years, with all his cash?

 

Rob Instigator 09.09.2010 01:08 PM

maybe he just thinks that we are only as "human" as we treat other living things?

knox 09.09.2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
maybe he just thinks that we are only as "human" as we treat other living things?


thats true but, you know.
i don't think we can treat other species fairly if we don't treat each other fairly.

is that don ramon?

SONIC GAIL 09.09.2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
I DO help, I've taken in strays and cared for many sick animals including birds with broken wings and found places for them to get help. I love animals...but this doesn't mean I wouldn't play a gig in a town because the town has slaughterhouses or some shit like that.

Living in a city like Macon, GA...taking in an animal (esp. cats + dogs) as pets is a beautiful thing. There are many strays around here, and the way we've bred them through the years, the way we've forced them to evolve, many of them depend on us human being anyways. My cat was a stray...I was walking around downtown one day and this little orange kitten started following me...eventually trailing behind me all the way to my apartment. That can chose to live with me. Pets aren't a bad thing, dude. This isn't to say that I think ALL animals make for good pets, but many of them do.

And yes, we humans are destroying the planet. Destroying things is what we have always (sadly...) been best at.


my kittys are strays i love em

dogs and cats have been bred to be our pets and some breeds would not survive in nature such as my shit zu who is allergic to everything and has claws that will grow back into him if not cut mother fucker would'nt have a chance out there

Rob Instigator 09.09.2010 04:10 PM

what makes me laugh is that ahyone is shocked that a British person says racially insensitive things.
sheeeeiiiiiiiit.

knox 09.09.2010 04:15 PM

to be honest british people DO NOT say racist stuff often they're usually very concerned about being PC and all.

Rob Instigator 09.09.2010 04:28 PM

that's true.

you guys can be very reserved when the situation calls for it!

Genteel Death 09.09.2010 04:41 PM

Why can't Brian Ferry adopt me?

Toilet & Bowels 09.09.2010 06:59 PM

I'm not one to sing the praises of the English, but we are one of the least racist countries in the western world. Less racist than Americans for sure.

ann ashtray 09.09.2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
I'm not one to sing the praises of the English, but we are one of the least racist countries in the western world. Less racist than Americans for sure.



But surely this is because of the large amount of different races that have consistently been coming here since the beginning.

Y'all damned sure were not treating yr Irish immigrants too well. Not sure what the current situation is on that....

Where there is a large cluster of folks from different backgrounds, there is always going to be racism A sad, sad fact, yes...but a fact none the less.

FreshChops 09.10.2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo
Morrisey is retarded. Not because of this. But because he's a vegetarian who throws hissy fits yet wears leather.



So, I don't eat humans but proudly wear their skins!

Actually I didn't know this fact about him, but that's pretty fucking funny if true. All said, that's why it comes down to just listening to the silly bastard croon into a microphone while overlooking any political, spiritual or religious views he (or any other performer) would be trying to convey. Everyone would be a lot less cynical then.


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