Suspect in what sense dear?

suspected of fathering hundreds of children to pregnant teenagers.

The mixtape has been hitting my G spot recently.

it's ok, it's clear where the big hype is coming from(Zach Hill) but it just keeps sticking to me as some cool demos for a project that never will get futher

I didn't even know Zach Hill was involved until I was way into it. It made sense when I found out though (a real 'duh' moment).

saw them live last night. their MC is fucking insane (cool pagan tattoos also).

http://soundcloud.com/deathgrips/sets/the-money-store/

mhh...
not sure how I feel about it.

hipster hop.

please elaborate on this and also on why you're saying hipster in 2012

j/k, i listened to it once and didn't get it at all.

anyway other than the usual suspects (Nas, Kendrick, Ross, ASAP, GOOD Music, etc) i can't wait for Meek Mill's debut. and 2 Chainz. and surprisingly French Montana.
at least 2 of those 3 will be a strong AOTY contender. calling it now.

actually i don't know why i mentioned ASAP. tbh i think Rocky is some hot garbage. yeah the production he raps on is great, but his rapping is mediocre and he gets a lot of help with the lyrics and beat selection.

my thoughts on rocky are similar. if it wasn't for beautiful lou, clams and squadda and araab muzik producing his shit i honestly wouldn't care about him. he recycles lines 3-4 times on an album. sure, weezy was guilty of recycling lines in his prime(pre-carter III) but at least his lines were more clever than rocky's.

i don't understand the whole concept of "hipster-hop" still. i assume you just mean non-traditional hip-hop? the rap that's cool with the "kids" these days? i always assume people are talking about the whole minneapolis/doomtree/poetic bullshit hip-hop kids when they say that.

art school kids with minors in creative writings

true, Weezy didn't rely on those beats so much either.

that whole weirdo/"swag" rapper movement which seems to be the cool thing to like these days.
includes Odd Future, ASAP, Lil B, RiFF RaFF, Das Racist, Death Grips, etc.
don't take it too seriously though, admittedly i like some of that shit and i'm far from a hipster.

i am hipster

those people also really dig ignorant trap music such as Gucci Mane & Waka Flocka (ironically of course).

me that's me i do that

oh Gucci is awesome. Flockaveli was a pleasant surprise. not feeling ironic though.

money store is tits.

dunno if i won't forget about that new Death Grips in a couple of months, but i like it too.

not as much as that new EL-P ofc. but still.

What's the new EL-P like? I will need to get that.

^^^^

on my third listen, this is definitely a fight record and my fav project of the year so far as well. and there is another album he fully produced for Killer Mike coming out in May.

Can that guy who never shuts up about insane clown posse fuck off from all hiphop threads, and probably all threads in general please? Thanks.

Just heard Death Grips, like it more that I expected as I don't like any of Zach Hill's previous things that I've heard, and I imagined from what I read that Death Grips would sound like a cross bewteen Anticon and Dalek, and in a way they do, but they don't suck like Anticon and they aren't boring like Dalek. The dude's rapping style reminds me more of Sensational than any of those (mostly awful) shouty rappers that guy was going on about.

Agreed on the Anticon/Dalek comments.I do like some stuff Dalek did,but overall it drags on and he's tedious. I don't understand why anyone would consider shit post-rock with beats and hip hop posturing like Clouddead anything other than a hipster, semi-arsed take on a musical form with a precise, yet malleable in the right hands, formula. I had only heard about the Zach Hill connection before I've listened to Death Grips, and if anything it made me suspicious because the person who was enthusing about them was making a big fuss about them sampling Black Flag. I'm no hip hop expert, but I like my hip hop when it stands proud and less manipulated by anyone who desperately wants to attach a ''live element'' to it. In this case I think it's mostly successful, even though I have some reservations about certain samples and atmospheres.

"Shit post-rock with beats" in cLOUDDEAD?
"Hip hop posturing"? With people like doseone in the band?
I'm pretty puzzled.
What's the "precise, yet malleable in the right hands, formula" of hip hop?
Just to make sure I'm not missing the point.
The new El-P is great, a bit "sad" somehow, but damn...

edit: I sound like an asshole in this post, but that's unintentional, haha. Still, assholish, eh.

You don't sound like an asshole. You sound like someone who can't get over post-rock and doesn't like hip hop.

You're right, you're the one sounding like an asshole.
Have fun not actually replying.

FYI, I was responding to nikk for the majority of this thread, only his posts were deleted so it currently looks as if I were spamming.

Secondly, if you legitimately think that Death Grips has anything whatsoever on genre legends like Busta, and Onyx... then you are the one who needs to reconsider your own sense of worth before posting your opinions about hip-hop. This board is a spam-ridden wasteland, feel lucky that ANY ONE still posts here at all.

Oh yeah, and...



ps: death grips still sucks, i'd much rather listen to dalek.

ICP shat on Eminem. that alone gives them a special place in my heart. :D

ICP are actually a lot more respected in the rap-game than most know.

Ice Cube, Naughty By Nature, Redman + Method Man, Too $hort, Rob Base, Ying Yang Twins, Spice 1, Mack 10, Brotha Lynch Hung, Li'l Jon, Scarface, Warren G, Above The Law, Busta Rhymes, Li'l Wyte, and Bubba Sparxxx have all performed at the Gathering of the Juggalos, and the clowns have done tracks with the likes of Three 6, O.D.B., Snoop Dogg, Bushwick Bill, MC Breed, etc.

Their upcoming album even has a version that includes a bonus disc which features a 64 minute track without any hooks/chorus (non-stop hoe flow). I'm pretty sure that's a hip-hop first, and certainly isn't without any artistic merit.

But I don't wanna sidetrack this thread too much. Seriously.

I'll gladly take ICP over this Death Grips trash.

Death Grips isn't that great but neither is ICP so you're all complete retards.

Hayden, in all seriousness what ICP albums have you heard? (Not trolling, I'm genuinely curious)

you guys need to know Clipse is really where it's at.

can't wait for the No Malice tape.
http://www.power1051fm.com/pages/ona...449330/1627619
(about 15:55 - spits a gawdly freestyle :))



:cool:.

Honestly, ICP aren't even the most talented emcees on their own label. That honor belongs to Twiztid. But that wasn't my point. I just find it silly how so many can praise an act like Death Grips, yet completely dismiss anything related to Juggalos.

I was at a party at my friend's apartment once, and he was playing some Odd Future. A few tracks in, this black kid mockingly exclaimed, "Man, this shit sounds like Twiztid-Lite!" I don't agree exactly, but it cracked me up nonetheless.

Death Grips are overhyped the same way Odd Future were (to a lesser extent, obviously). but at least OF had some hot bars in the beginning.

^ Agreed.

I wish spaceghostpurrp blew up more. I thought he was REALLY cool.
Maybe on his next release?

Thanks for making me aware of him, Hayden.

SGP is gonna release an album with remastered old songs and a few new songs this summer. off that lo-fi tip, i guess. and yeah he's fresh.

to be honest, I never got into that SpaceGhostPurp tape either. I felt like i wanted to though. Like I liked the idea more than the finished product. The lo lo lo-fi might've killed it for me though. I'd throw it on and end up wanting to hear 3-6 instead.

Clipse always kills it. I'm not sure what they have to do with any of tihs though. Haha.

but yeah. Death Grips suck.

haha idk, people just started talking about ICP outta nowhere, so i brought up my fav duo.

oh lol... the ICP shit came from an argument earlier in the thread, but half the argument got deleted.