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scott v 08.21.2006 10:45 AM

Guru Guru (UFO and Hinton)

Amon Duul (1st 2 records)
Amon Duul II (1st 3 records)

Brainticket was pretty weird shit though it doesn't hold up over time, some really cheesy cut n paste tape collage action but quite the influence on Nurse With Wound

Ash Ra Tempel (1st 2 albums)

Agitation Free's Malesch is awesome...

Xhol Caravan !!!

then you got Cluster, Harmonia...etc etc... and there's obviously alot of other super obscuro shit that like will never get reissued those LPs that go for easily multi-hundreds of dollars.

Everyneurotic 08.21.2006 10:47 AM

it was progressive rock.

that's what the bands called it and that's what they were trying to do, german progressive rock.

Toilet & Bowels 08.21.2006 11:05 AM

well it's progressive in that it was a developement on what happened before, but it's not prog. i don't care what the bands themselves say.

Everyneurotic 08.21.2006 11:07 AM

you get into genres and subgenres discussions.

is it a continuation of one or simply influenced but which brought something else.

i think that, in the big picture, it was part of the progressive rock period (more so than sound).

Toilet & Bowels 08.21.2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i think that, in the big picture, it was part of the progressive rock period (more so than sound).


well you could apply that logic to the stooges or hawkwind...

Everyneurotic 08.21.2006 11:17 AM

hawkwind are considered prog.

the stooges were on the counterpoint of genres...sort of post garage

i meant prog rock period as in time and implying an approach to music.

Toilet & Bowels 08.21.2006 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
hawkwind are considered prog.

the stooges were on the counterpoint of genres...sort of post garage

i meant prog rock period as in time and implying an approach to music.


i know exactly what you meant, and my point is that defining prog that way doesn't work & you don't need to explain the stooges place in music history either. and people can consider what they like, but hawkwind aren't prog.

Everyneurotic 08.21.2006 11:40 AM

whatever, i've seen hawkwind cathegorized as prog a lot. i don't really can put them in league with like procul harum or balleto di bronzo, but the lumping has been made.

actually, who cares? it's just repetitive, psychedelic 70's german rock.

sonicl 08.23.2006 07:32 AM

I wish someone would reprint Julian Cope's Krautrocksampler book.

porkmarras 08.23.2006 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
I wish someone would reprint Julian Cope's Krautrocksampler book.

That'd be a goldmine for most.I can't think of a better person to moderate this thread than Cope himself.

sonicl 08.23.2006 08:08 AM

He's in the middle of writing a Japrocksampler one. That should be fucking excellent.

porkmarras 08.23.2006 08:10 AM

He wrote a very good article about Acid Mothers Temple for mojo magazine a few years ago so i will be looking forward to that.

Toilet & Bowels 08.23.2006 08:11 AM

oooohh, interesting.
krautrocksampler turns up on ebay from time to time, if i was flush i'd buy it, i've seen it go for 30 or 40 quid which is pricey but not outrageous

chuck norris 08.23.2006 10:22 AM

For people who want to listen to Kraftwerk, I recommend the Trans Europe Express.

Some people consider this the start of dance music. It was defenitly a pioneer album for computer music



 

Kallisti23chaos 08.23.2006 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Gila- S/T
Agitation Free - Malesch
Guru Guru- UFO, Hinten
Code III - Planet Of Man
Neu! - 1st 2 LPs
Ash Ra Tempel - 1st LP
Popol Vuh - Aguirre soundtrack


These are just a few, but some great ones to get started on.



Mr.Clone is THE expert on this genre. When in doubt, follow his lead....

Gulasch Noir 08.24.2006 02:12 AM

i think that's the blog Nefeli is referring to
http://8daysinapril.blogspot.com/.
It's down at the moment, and i can't find the download links anymore. I have saved them up until June 2006, so I have more than enough to download anyway. My favorite of these apart from the albums I already had are

Drosselbart
Gäa
Mythos
Sperrmüll
Kraan
Mammut
Arzachel (by the way, song # 3 from the record you can download seems to be known by MF Doom when he composed the song Old School ft. Talib Kweli)

Everyneurotic 08.24.2006 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulasch Noir
i think that's the blog Nefeli is referring to
http://8daysinapril.blogspot.com/.
It's down at the moment, and i can't find the download links anymore. I have saved them up until June 2006, so I have more than enough to download anyway. My favorite of these apart from the albums I already had are...


8 days in april closed, the site was taken down by the guy who used to do it.

porkmarras 08.24.2006 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck norris
For people who want to listen to Kraftwerk, I recommend the Trans Europe Express.

Some people consider this the start of dance music. It was defenitly a pioneer album for computer music







 

Wow,first that this came up.What are you,gay perhaps?

krastian 08.25.2006 01:56 AM

I'm plenty gay and Trans Europe Express has been rocking me since I was 14 and exposing it to my pothead friends. Good call porky.....def. a red flag.

Toilet & Bowels 08.25.2006 03:48 AM

i'm as straight as an arrow fired by a man who has never had a homosexual encounter in his life, but i still get down to trans europe express

porkmarras 08.25.2006 03:51 AM

Kraftwerk are one of the gayest bands ever(good gay).Them and Abba are the gayest music ever made.

Gulasch Noir 08.25.2006 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
8 days in april closed, the site was taken down by the guy who used to do it.


Well, two months ago the guy, who run that site said, he was closing it down for good. Then, a few days later, he re-opened it. I downloaded stuff and hadn't looked on the site until yesterday, where it says: See you in Fall. So, unless you provide contrary information, i think, it will be up again in fall.

Gulasch Noir 08.25.2006 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Kraftwerk are one of the gayest bands ever(good gay).Them and Abba are the gayest music ever made.


Why do you consider them being gay?

porkmarras 08.25.2006 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulasch Noir
Why do you consider them being gay?

Because they look gay.

Gulasch Noir 08.25.2006 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Because they look gay.


That still doesn't make them gay.

porkmarras 08.25.2006 09:19 AM

Yes it does.

Gulasch Noir 08.25.2006 10:04 AM

ok....

i have to study now.

Everyneurotic 08.25.2006 10:33 AM

why are people so mad at me?

when he said he was closing it, i spent the whole week in the site, thru the putting ups and downs, until he posted the whole site on .rar files and said he was going to post albums on a board somewhere; once i finished copying the links to the albums i was interested, i haven't gone back until like 2 weeks ago when there was nothing on the site.

so, hope you have better information and the site gets up and running again, but chill man! i have nothing against you.

h8kurdt 08.25.2006 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck norris
For people who want to listen to Kraftwerk, I recommend the Trans Europe Express.

Some people consider this the start of dance music. It was defenitly a pioneer album for computer music





 



QFT

That album ranks pretty high in my all time favs. Brilliant album.

Gulasch Noir 08.25.2006 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i have nothing against you.


Me neither!

Savage Clone 08.25.2006 04:33 PM

I would not be opposed to a Mammut upload. I lost out on an original of that several years ago and have always been curious about it.

Gulasch Noir 08.25.2006 04:47 PM

I'll try to up it tomorrow or sunday. I saved the whole site of the blog as i said before, but the Mammut zip file got deleted. The album description

A German private release from 1971, 'Mammut' is the only album I know of which opens with the sound of a squeaking mouse. Those first few seconds offer the listener a glimpse of the musical creativity inherent within. As a whole, the album combines classical, blues and acid elements resulting in a very unique psychedelic recording. The first track, 'Bird Mammut' is what the original Amon Düül should have sounded like: a cacophony of multi-layered rhythmic percussion which provides the foundation for a repetitive bass line, swirling organ, and erratic flute solos. 'Bird Mammut' segues into the short piano interlude aptly titled 'Classic Mammut'. Following this are the heavy acid-blues tracks 'Mammut Ecstasy' and 'Footmachine Mammut'. Showcasing a heavy dose of John Lord (Deep Purple) influenced hammond organ, 'Mammut Ecstasy' is a groovy number containing heavy guitar breaks. 'Footmachine Mammut' is the more laid back of the two and it has a brooding organ sound more akin to Richard Wright's (Pink Floyd) work. Both tracks are notable for their easy going acid-drenched vocals which are at times reminiscent of Damo Suzuki from Can. 'Schizoid Mammut' again returns the band to the Düül-ish primal tendencies showcased on the first track. 'Schizoid' is a fairly straightforward acid blues jam with demented vocals performed simultaneously by multiple vocalists singing in different keys! The album closes with the thirteen-minute opus 'Mammut Opera'. This track begins with a rather gloomy jazzy-piano and vocals section before turning into a progressive jam culminating with guitar and flute solos. (krautrockgroup.com)

Gulasch Noir 08.26.2006 04:52 AM

Amon Düül II trivia (at least, i think it was Amon Düül II, if not, any other Krautband)

I read that, in the late years of Amon Düül II, the singer of the band was the german synchronizer from ALF. As i read that the first time, i had to giggle.

Former Amon Düül I member, then Jimi Hendrix groupie, Uschi Obermaier (with Rainer Langhans from the Kommune I)


 

Gulasch Noir 08.26.2006 05:01 AM

Not that i forget: a song title by Amon Düül
"Mama Düül und ihre Sauerkrautband"

Iain 08.26.2006 05:03 AM

Oh mama! She is mighty pretty.

o o o 08.26.2006 02:42 PM

i had never heard about this uschi obermaier... according to wikipedia, "she was regarded by many to be the sex symbol of the 1968 generation in Europe"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uschi_Obermaier

krastian 08.27.2006 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i'm as straight as an arrow fired by a man who has never had a homosexual encounter in his life, but i still get down to trans europe express

Oh hell yeah.....I was just drunk and ranting.

actuel 08.27.2006 02:37 AM

It was a sad day when 8daysinapril hit pause. My curved-air blog isn't as deep on the archives but is of a similiar ilk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Gila- S/T
Agitation Free - Malesch
Guru Guru- UFO, Hinten
Code III - Planet Of Man
Neu! - 1st 2 LPs
Ash Ra Tempel - 1st LP
Popol Vuh - Aguirre soundtrack


Clone's list is pretty on the mark here. The kraut well runs so deep though...follow the 'Crack in the Cosmic Egg' and take the Nurse with Wound list for additional assistance. Your bound to get lost in the most joyful way. Say hi to Dauner for me.

/actuel

ps. Check CA's archives for Kraut goodies

Gulasch Noir 08.27.2006 08:15 AM

Mammut - s/t (not longer available on the 8 days in april blog)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0A19F7DF14DD99C2

Savage Clone 08.27.2006 10:18 AM

Is Crack In The Cosmic Egg in print again?


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