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Cantankerous 08.23.2006 09:43 PM

that's a pain in the ass though.

alyasa 08.23.2006 09:45 PM

Yeah... but then I think about Tom Morello, and how he simulates turntable scratching by rubbing his left hand on the strings and flicking the toggle switch with his right hand... That sounds like a pain to me too...

(You can hear that effect on 'Bulls On Parade')

Cantankerous 08.23.2006 09:48 PM

i think i may have seen him on some show on VH1 about the 90s or 80s or something.

Norma J 08.23.2006 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
I saw an ebow being used in an REM video once.... It gave a creepy, theremin-like effect... Ultra cool.




 


Yeah, Daniel Johns from Silverchair uses one of those in the song 'Too Much of Not Enough'. They sound pretty neat.

alteredcourse 08.23.2006 11:30 PM

That's the daddy, eh ? i just thought he was just shredding on a couple strings .

CHOUT 08.24.2006 12:44 AM

I can play One Note Samba...kinda. Can't figure out all the notes, though.

GeneticKiss 08.24.2006 01:01 AM

Well, let's see...been playing guitar around 6 or 7 years now...actually I learned the basics when I was 12 but didn't really start playing much until I was 17...I can play:

-Smells Like Teen Spirit, In Bloom (except the lead break), Come As You Are, Drain You, Sliver, Aneurysm, and the main riff to Aero Zeppelin by Nirvana
-Cherub Rock by the Smashing Pumpkins (not note for note, but pretty close)
-When I Come Around by Green Day
-10:15 Saturday Nght, A Forest, Play For Today, and One Hundered Years by the Cure
-She's So High and Song 2 by Blur
-Duel by Swervedriver
-Creep, Fake Plastic Trees, and Just by Radiohead
-Get Free, Outtathaway, and Ride by the Vines
-Bohemian Like You and Godless by the Dandy Warhols
-Mildred Pierce by Sonic Youth (I don't like to mess around too much with tuning)
-Paranoid by Black Sabbath
-Just Like Honey by the Jesus and Mary Chain
-Tomorrow by Silverchair

I know I know more but I don't feel like listing them right now...

soniknirve 08.24.2006 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
learning entire hole and nirvana records when you're 11 really qualifies for that.

i don't even remember how to play most of them.


nirvana is the easiest shit to learn when you're starting off. most of the songs are only 3 or 4 chords and maybe a cheeseball solo here and there. i don't know any hole to judge.

John Violence 08.24.2006 02:25 AM

When I first started playing guitar I would learn a few licks from songs. My Dad started calling me the sample man because I couldn't play full songs. I think that has something to do with me always learning and writting songs now.

My favorites lately have been

Dinosaur Jr.-Bulbs of Passion
Dinosaur Jr.-Kracked
Dinosaur Jr.-The Lung
Dinosaur Jr.-Does it Float
Black Flag-In My Head
Black Flag-Drinking and Driving
Black Flag-Modern Man
Black Flag-Slip It In
Minutemen-Little Man With A Gun In His Hand
Faith No More-Suprise! You're Dead!
X-Nausea
CKY-Testing
Jawbreaker-Housesitter

Plus all of my songs and some random others

krastian 08.24.2006 03:10 AM

A shit load, but I play drums so......

alteredcourse 08.24.2006 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by krastian
A shit load, but I play drums so......

Saaaame heeeere....
though i cant really bash away without somethign to play to .
im not very creative i guess . i cant just drive a melody from my head .
and i have some problem with filling things out . ive played since december ..

are you self-taught ? got any pointers ?

porkmarras 08.24.2006 04:17 AM

I cover merzbow a lot.

darthblav 08.24.2006 01:12 PM

I have not really played other artist's songs for years. When I have done a cover, it is normally a different take than the original.

When I was just starting out guitar player and guitar magazine helped me learn all the 90s alternative essentials on guitar (pj, nirvana, stp, soundgarden, pumpkins, weezer, etc) but i also had big classic rock influence by learning all the led zepplin I -III from front to back on bass, pink floyd, beatles, hendrix catalog (on bass), neil young, bowie. I also knew the whole pumpkin catalog pretty decent, same for pj. But then I went to college, and that is a different chapter in this story.

Like others said, I prefer creating my own stuff to play. I guess that is why I am in a original band?

I do think for the newbie musicians, learning songs is a great way to develop yourself technically and stylisticly. For me, it helped me develop the writing style I use today. Ultimately, I think what really makes you strong is playing with other people as a musican because it is a different ball game from playing along with a song.

As for Ebows, I do love them. Yes the sound can be replicated, but it still is not an Ebow.

I have been playing bass for about 11 years and guitar for 10. I would consider myself a decent bass player and just an ok guitar player.

LittlePuppetBoy 08.24.2006 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
how long have you guys been playing for?


5 months

Cantankerous 08.24.2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniknirve
nirvana is the easiest shit to learn when you're starting off. most of the songs are only 3 or 4 chords and maybe a cheeseball solo here and there. i don't know any hole to judge.

hole is equally easy if not easier for the fact that absolutely none of their songs have a solo, especially the first record.

Savage Clone 08.24.2006 06:14 PM

Not that anybody cares, but there was an ebow thread a long time ago and I zipped three old tunes from three bands I've played in where I went into ebow overindulgence.
I still had the file, so I upped it again given the ebow discussion here...
Enjoy or not.

http://www.badongo.com/file/1286006

alyasa 08.24.2006 07:52 PM

Thanks, Savage Clone for the files... I'll give it a listen... :)

alyasa 08.24.2006 07:52 PM

BaDonGo Sucks.

Cantankerous 08.24.2006 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
i think thats their best album too, simple is good yas

i like the second one better and i don't like the third one at all. i threw it away i think but i probably stomped on it first.

HaydenAsche 08.24.2006 08:15 PM

Boring songs. I'm mostly into electronic instruments and sampling.

Cantankerous 08.24.2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
i've not heard the last one i don't care to after i heard celebrity skin i applaude the stomping. i always have a song in my head (for years now haaa) from the first album i can't remember the name of...grrr i'll have to get the whole album

teenage whore
babydoll
garbage man
sassy
good sister/bad sister
mrs jones
berry
loaded
starbelly
pretty on the inside
clouds


???/

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Boring songs. I'm mostly into electronic instruments and sampling.


you're mostly a dork.

Savage Clone 08.24.2006 09:11 PM

BaDonGo is annoying, but for some reason YSI has been giving me problems lately.

HaydenAsche 08.24.2006 09:11 PM

In my experience Badongo typically works alot smoother than YSI.

alteredcourse 08.25.2006 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i like the second one better and i don't like the third one at all. i threw it away i think but i probably stomped on it first.

Actually, a few months ago i got a strange urge to listen to celebrity skin . i searched everywhere and found the case - thats when i remembered that i didnt just throw it out , i broke it up and attempted to melt it . though i HAD listened to it a few times before doing so , so i knew the songs...

...so, when i downloaded it just out of the whim i ended up liking a bunch of the songs. maybe just because it'd been a good 7+some years since it came out , its probably only out of the emotional attatchment to the time . but it is catchy in certain moods . i mean hell , billy corgan does know how to write a catchy song at least.

good sister/bad sister has always been a favorite from POTIS .

darthblav 08.25.2006 12:28 PM

i like that billy corgan wrote most of celebrity skin. i think you can really tell in the guitar style. is it also rumored that cobain wrote live through this, correct? i definitely hear nirvana in that album, but maybe i am reading into more.

i can't believe we are talking about this band, i reallly don't like give courtney love any musical attention.

Glice 08.25.2006 12:34 PM

I can't think of many songs that would take me more than five minutes to figure out. I enjoy playing old country a lot, but most of my time is devoted to scores (which are necessarily more difficult) and improvising (scales practice a must).

I find e-bows reprehensible and boring to use. I'm more of a fan of controlled feedback.

Savage Clone 08.25.2006 12:40 PM

I think ebows have a much wider range of techniques than people realize, but I will say that I did not replace my ebow when it disappeared and I don't miss it. You can only use them so much.
I think those guitars with sustainer pickups are pretty damn cool though. You get all that infinite sustain, but you can do chords and other such things with it. Much cooler.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 08.25.2006 01:51 PM

i can play pretty much anything
my dad began to teach me when i was 7
hes been playing for over 40 years

my current favorites:
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Little Wing (original by hendrix)
Pearl Jam - Yellow Leadbetter
Grateful Dead - Eyes of The World

gmku 08.25.2006 01:55 PM

I've been playing acoustic guitar for about 30 years. Many, many rock/pop/folk songs are built around the same or similar chord progressions, so I know a lot of basic or classic songs and their structures and can eaily pick up others that are like them.

What gets challenging, though, is trying to learn songs that were written in alternative tunings.

finding nobody 08.25.2006 03:24 PM

I can play "I'm Lonely (But I aint that Lonley yet)" By the white stripes on piano. that was a tough one

TheDom 08.25.2006 03:30 PM

I know a lot of songs, but the ones I usually crank up the stereo and play along with Dino Jr's You're Living All Over Me, Grateful Dead's Live/Dead and some select Hendrix.

Phlegmscope 08.27.2006 06:57 AM

I've dabbled around with my guitar about 7 months and it shows...

I know the chord progression of Cast a Shadow by Beat Happening.

krastian 08.27.2006 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alteredcourse
are you self-taught ? got any pointers ?

Yeah I'm self-taught.....most drummers are. The best advice I can give is pretty obvious......practice, practice, practice. I also like to lift weights because it helps keep up my stamina. Pay attention to the beats/rhythms to everything you listen to and it's helpful to visualize where each sound is coming from the kit.....sounds kind of obvious, but the more aware you are to where each sound is coming from, the better/more precise you'll be. I'm always tapping out beats with my fingers like a nutcase, so that helps as well.


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