Yea and so was Ice T's OG but i didn't want to kill him after listening to it though...

oh shit, that flow switch on Suddenly!! gets me every time.

hell yeah. Though I *think* my favorite track is "Phoenix"...

"a bible or a rifle / good night folks"

I bought the regular edition, but it's so good I gotta get the deluxe bonus tracks now. (Same with GOOD KID)

I honestly can't tell if I'm being made fun of here for something I've said in the past,or if you're just my hip hop soulmate, but I feel the same way. Especially about Cannibal Ox. Whenever I hear something that's supposed to be amazing, I check it out and it's fine, and then I think about the opening tracks of Cold Vein, and I just want to listen to Cold Vein.

What now? You were nothing short of "all about that shit" at the time of its release. Unless I'm mistaken. Was that just a novelty effect that wore off because you listened to it and nothing else for a week (as I did) or am I just completely trippin'

the latter. i found it disappointing. Earl's verse on Oldie was a pleasant surprise though.

Underachievers mixtape is legit.

indeed. wait, i just have to post this cover art

sonofabitch. Wow.

I just listened to Chum on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCbWLSZrZfw

It immediately reminded me of The Street's "Weak Become Heroes". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1kRhiPE0E Piano sound and melody and vocal timbre, tempo and rhythm sound very much alike.

I like the drum ruffle.

Lyrically it doesn't appeal to me. Such a narrow scope.

Rolling Stone's 50 Greatest Hip-Hop Songs Of All Time

"Editor's note: To make this list, Rolling Stone asked 33 artists and experts – from Rick Rubin to Busta Rhymes – to choose their favorite hip-hop tracks, then crunched the numbers"

1. The Message – Grandmaster Flash, 1982
2. Rappers Delight – The Sugarhill Gang, 1979
3. Planet Rock – Afrika Bambaataa & The Soul Sonic Force, 1982
4. Sucker M.C’s – Run-D.M.C, 1982
5. Mind Playing Tricks On Me – Geto Boys, 1991
6. Nuthin’ But a ‘G’ Thang – Dre.Dre & Snoop Dogg, 1992
7. Fight The Power – Public Enemy, 1990
8. Juicy – Notorious B.I.G, 1994
9. Straight Outta Compton – N.W.A, 1988
10. Paid In Full – Eric B & Rakim, 1987
11. C.R.E.A.M – Wu Tang Clan, 1993
12. They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y) – Pete Rock and C.L Smooth, 1992
13. La Di Da Di – Doug E. Fresh and the Get Fresh Crew, 1985
14. Rebel Without A Pause – Public Enemy, 1988
15. Fuck Tha Police – N.W.A, 1988
16. Big Pimpin’ – Jay-Z, 1999
17. Peter Piper – Run D.M.C, 1986
18. Dear Mama – Tupac, 1995
19. Paul Revere – Beastie Boys, 1986
20. In Da Club – 50 Cent, 2003
21. Rock The Bells – LL Cool J, 1985
22. Strictly Business – EPMD, 1988
23. I Know You Got Soul – Eric B. and Rakim, 1987
24. It Takes Two – Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock, 1988
25. Ain’t No Half Steppin’ – Big Daddy Kane, 1988
26. Scenario – A Tribe Called Quest, 1991
27. Flava in Ya Ear (Remix) – Craig Mack, Rampage, the Notorious B.I.G., LL Cool J, Busta Rhymes, 1994
28. Lose Yourself – Eminem, 2002
29. Mama Said Knock You Out – LL Cool J, 1990
30. Hypnotize – Notorious B.I.G., 1997
31. N.Y. State Of Mind – Nas, 1994
32. Jesus Walks – Kanye West, 2004
33. 99 Problems – Jay-Z, 2003
34. P.S.K. What Does It Mean? – Schoolly D, 1985
35. Shook Ones Part II – Mobb Deep, 1995
36. Rosa Parks – Outkast, 1998
37. It Was A Good Day – Ice Cube, 1992
38. Get Ur Freak On – Missy Elliot, 2001
39. My Name Is – Eminem, 1999
40. The Breaks – Kurtis Blow, 1980
41. California Love – Tupac and Dr.Dre, 1995
42. South Bronx – Boogie Down Productions, 1987
43. Top Billin’ – Audio Two, 1988
44. Me, Myself and I – De La Soul, 1989
45. Lost Ones – Lauryn Hill, 1988
46. Push It – Salt-N-Pepa, 1986
47. That’s the Joint – Funk 4+1, 1980
48. The Symphony – Marley Marl, 1988
49. Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels Of Steel – Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, 1981
50. B.O.B – Outkast, 2000

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/li...-time-20121205







December 2012 issues.


I created a playlist on Spotify some weeks ago. http://open.spotify.com/user/1129291...LfhAEOGVxNjtig

^I have that issue.

Tila Tequila
13 hours ago
DEAR NASA,

I SUPPORT YOU IN NOT DISCLOSING ANY INFO TO THESE IDIOTS. #SALUTES WOULD IT BE MEAN OF ME TO LAUGH AT THEM THOUGH ONCE THEY ALL DROWN FROM THE IMPACT?

PS-I was not directing these messages to my AWAKENED FAMILY HERE, you guys already know this as you can CLEARLY see it for yourselves. Not that hard to point out a Zombie shit for brains to you! LOL *sigh* I do love my awakened family & friends on here tho! This way I don't feel so alone! *HUGS*

why does Joey Bada$$ (or any rapper for that matter) think they can come at Lil B? they never seem to learn.

i love The Message, Mind Playin' Tricks on Me and TROY.

but that Rolling Stone list is trash. Rolling Stone is trash. no Kast songs in top 25? fuck them.

sometimes i think i'd consider another song titled "The Message" the best rap song ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws3Ks0FGxYM

that song has blown my mind since the day it was released. "Fake thug, no love, you get the slug, CB4 Gusto" = OMG what an opening line!

:o.

seriously. Big Pimpin' isn't even a top 10 Jay-Z song.

yesssssss!

been listening to Lil B all day. i think that his most memorable songs came out in the first couple of years of his solo career (I'm God, I'm a Martian, Pretty Bitch, B.O.R, T-Shirt & Buddens, etc). still dig everything he does though.

well, except for the classical music attempts. haha.

lulz. Was pretty bad. Would've been better had he called it "new age" instead of "classical."

Yeah, it's just shitty keyboard ambient that he already did on 'Rain in England'.

new James Blake single is so good.

also, i just found that Justin Timberlake dropped a new, 8-min single. woah.

still need to hear it.

so i finally checked it out. shyt's much better than Suit & Tie. wow. on repeat atm.

new Tyler single is dope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4OD3IHs5jU&list=UUvvMe-A4FbvtMk-V_vE9PpQ&index=1

I was listening to Makaveli The Seven Day Theory and comparing it Jesus Piece and realized Game made an EPIC failure. Tupac eloquently and intelligently yet sincerely street blends faith, religion, and thug life like David in the Psalter. He is not ever misogynistic or sacrilegious, just honest about his doubts and fears which we all share together. Jesus Piece was a cool idea for a concept, but in all actuality failed miserably. I respect Game for trying to put his faith into his music, but I was more successful on tracks like Let Us Live, Letter to the King, and Why You Hate the Game...

I actually found Jesus Piece to be a bit more insulting after digesting a few times, a significant let down compared to tracks like the above three I mentioned..

Props to Tupac, nobody will every bridge the gap between street and faith without coming across as blasphemous or pretentious..

I agree it was a failure for what he intended, but I really enjoyed the album nonetheless. I find The Game fascinating no matter what the results.

True dat. Just listening to that Seven Day Theory is what reminded me of just how much a gem Tupac really was to ALL music, not just rap. Very few artists can navigate a life of sin with a life of faith, and yet that is exactly what REAL life is about isn't it? Not glorifying violence or crass materialism, but reflecting your daily realities gritty, boring, or all in between. Tupac simply spoke the real. The Seven Day Theory is such an epic album for that. It is political, it is spiritual, it is an activist album, it promotes family, women, it asks for forgiveness offering an apology without a cop-out explanation. Simply put, it was Tupac expressing himself, and many of us relate to his experiences. Like King David in the Psalms, its not always a PG movie, and even religious people are seldom if ever near perfect, generally quite the opposite, but the dignity of being a human being is having the ability to carry on forward, and grow, mature, and evolve. In that sense, Seven Day Theory is an evolution, where as compared to Let Us Live or Why You Hate The Game, Jesus Piece is a few steps backwards, though I must admit, equally honest. I think where Game fucked up is trying to consciously make this a concept album, rather than just speaking his heart as in previous albums. Seven Day Theory is NOT a concept album, it is just the natural progression of where Tupac and the Outlawz were going after the All Eyez On Me studio sessions which gave birth to the legendary Makaveli Bootlegs.

yup. Agree w/ every word you said. Yes.

btw, my fav Pac album is still Me Against The World though. I think the most devastatingly real and sad line he ever wrote was:

"I've been really wanting babies / so I can see a part of me that wasn't always shady"

...that always kills me.

Remember how young he was writing that line, man. Tragic.

and earlier in that track: "my every move is a calculated step / to bring me closer to embracing an early death."

:(

the single was alright. but that transition to that Bimmer song at the end amazed me. beautiful (even though it's nothing he hasn't done before). i'm excited for Wolf.

I really just bump the Makaveli era more than anything. It seems like we only got glimpses of Pac on his Tupac shit, but when he went full out I think the real Tupac, heart and soul, came out in the person of Makaveli. Then again, 18 or 19 albums worth of raps mostly recorded in less than a year's time might have that effect ;)

yeah that's easily the best part of the song. Like I was all "oh good song," and then that transition happened and I was like "ok, awesome song and now I want the album."

you're far more familiar with the Mak boots than I am... how much of that material was released (Better Dayz, Until The End Of Time, etc) in some form?

Indigoism rules my world atm.

Here is the list
Almost half of it has been released in all the post-humous Makaveli and Tupac "legit" albums but they are all remixes. The "bootlegs" were initially an LA only thing, you grabbed em at the Compton Swapmeet which is in the MOB neighborhood. These were all made by the Outlawz from 48 hours of tape that Tupac had been rapping on. A lot of those tapes were acapella free-styles, raps, and notes that Pac had put on tape and the Outlawz later had produced and they rapped on it. Others are "out-takes" from earlier studio sessions. However, the Outlawz mixes from the bootlegs better reflect the sound and vibe that Tupac would have wanted, they sound like Tupac albums. A lot of the later reissues have also been remixed to avoid legal battles with the other artists who worked on the bootleg versions, and so they don't necessarily sound like Pac. So I stick with the boots which are not readily available in the internet age. In 1999, they were like solid gold.

i'm listening to that Hodgy EP from last year. i'm high and it's great.

my wife said "64" by MellowHype makes her angry.

thx dude. Was curious. I've listened to all teh bootlegs, but last time was probalby like 2008. I stick to legit albums far more. So was just curious how it played out.

Afeni Shakur didn't like the bootlegs, but that is probably because quite literally they came out under shady circumstances. DeathRow was initially started as a money laundering scheme which never intended to be so commercially successful. All the folks who worked there were gang affiliated, mostly drug dealers with some crooked cops too. After Tupac's death, in between pending lawsuits over his archives and back catelouge, all the bootlegs showed up all over LA. Again, initially in MOB Pirus (the set Suge and most of DeathRow were part of) neighborhoods. Many folks believed there was a direct connection between these leaked albums and DeathRow. Afeni herself sued them many times claiming that DeathRow was releasing the bootlegs on the side to make cash off the books and steal Tupac's archive materials. She did inevitably win many of those suits which is where all the "legit" post-houmous albums came out. However, to deal with copyright issues and because of her own matters of taste, she had most if not ALL the archive material remixed in the studio. While Afeni doesn't want to admit it, those remixes reflect HER interpretation of Tupac, and not necessarily Tupac's interpretation. True, about 50% of the Makaveli bootleg material is garbage mixed, and about 25% probably was just acapella tapes which were quickly remixed over some beats that Pac had never heard or had anything to do with. However, for a solid 50% of those bootlegs are outtakes and unreleased rough mixes, especially those with the Outlawz rapping, that most definitely reflect Tupac's style from 1994-1996 WAAAAAAY more than the legit reissued versions which came out later.

So while I totally support Afeni Shakur, in all actuality it seems to me she let her ego get in the way and those remixes do NOT sound like how Tupac would have wanted them as Makaveli. The good stuff on the bootlegs I feel better sounds like how it is obvious that Makaveli would have wanted them. The bootleg material all sounds like a continuation of All Eyes on Me and the Seven Day Theory, the later remixed reissues really don't have any kind of sound at all, they are all just loosely put together as an anthology of sorts. That is why I bump the bootlegs, I like them better, they just feel more Tupac than the legit reissues..