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k-krack 12.16.2006 06:07 PM

I love Thurstons vocals on it. They're so... sort of... lazily done... in a way. Sort of Stephen Malkmus-y. Y'know? I especially love Mary-Christ's vocals.

Norma J 12.16.2006 06:11 PM

The vocals are very lazy. Especially Kims. Sounds liek she was half asleep.

Danny Himself 12.16.2006 06:13 PM

Yeah, Kim's are poor, but Thurston's singing fits his lyrics well.

Norma J 12.16.2006 06:21 PM

Sounds like Thurston was going for a different vocal style though. I find it a little humerous at times.

HECKLER SPRAY 12.16.2006 06:31 PM

SISTER : the best album i've ever heard, from the beginning to the end, no bullshit, just brilliant songs. And this sound, so special, so warm. Firts time I heard Schizophrenia, I got shivers. First time I heard Catholic block intro since 5 years, I couldn't believe i 've waited for a so long time to listen to this milestone. GOO : not so bad, but no so powerfull. Good songs, but as not linked as Sister's.
SISTER is still the best album of the 80's.

Dead-Air 12.16.2006 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kegmama


 


Sister was SY's most blatant early flirtation with conventional rock songwriting. With Sister, SY moved past the self-consciously avant-garde stylings of some of their early albums to create a much more accessible, immediate, and listenable sound...



Not really. EVOL was the album that did that. Part of why Sister is named that is that they considered it a "sister" album to EVOL. A lot of people, myself included, like it a little better, but EVOL was very much the pop deviation from the noisier records Bad Moon Rising, Kill Your Idols, and Confusion is Sex.

alyasa 12.17.2006 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

 


Rather ripped has an intensity of its own, i think... Pop bubblegum intensity. Like ABBA's dark and twisted doppleganger meets Television with a lesbian fixation.

k-krack 12.17.2006 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Not really. EVOL was the album that did that. Part of why Sister is named that is that they considered it a "sister" album to EVOL. A lot of people, myself included, like it a little better, but EVOL was very much the pop deviation from the noisier records Bad Moon Rising, Kill Your Idols, and Confusion is Sex.


Yupyupyup. Both albms are absolutely delicious.

And no matter what you fucks all say, Rather Ripped is a fan-fucking-tastic album. One of '06's best.

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 01:31 AM

I like goo on a different context than sister. I like goo's more pop-oriented song structures, while sister is amazing on another plateu. the lyrics are just brilliant on that one. Both are good.

alyasa 12.17.2006 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
I like goo on a different context than sister. I like goo's more pop-oriented song structures, while sister is amazing on another plateu. the lyrics are just brilliant on that one. Both are good.

I think that hits it on the nail... Sister and Goo are both brilliant for completely different reasons. Like OK Computer and Nevermind...

Norma J 12.17.2006 01:44 AM

But if you put them both on a list, I'd pick Nevermind without even thinking about it. Radiohead I've never really liked.

k-krack 12.17.2006 01:47 AM

I love both Nirvana and Radiohead, but Nevermind takes it, no questions asked. Plus, OK Computer gets too much credit as Radioheads best album... no it ain't!

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 01:53 AM

In Utero is far better than nevermind, and Bleach beats In Utero.

k-krack 12.17.2006 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
In Utero is far better than nevermind


Word. Bleach, however, is my least favourite. The drums sound so sucky on Bleach. (recording, that is)

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 01:56 AM

You have to listen to it, it is brilliant.

k-krack 12.17.2006 01:57 AM

Great album, sure, still my least favourite of the three.

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 01:59 AM

No Nevermind is my least favorite. I have In Utero and Bleach on Vynil, I just need Nevermind.

k-krack 12.17.2006 02:00 AM

Sweet.
I got 'em all on cd.

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 02:04 AM

I can't play it cause my record player fucken broke, so I need to buy a new one.

k-krack 12.17.2006 02:07 AM

Yikes.
I broke a couple of record players... (by "scratching" with them...) I learned from my mistakes, I got free replacements every time though, because I lied and said it was natural causes!!! (Mind, this happened thrice hahaha!)

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 02:09 AM

Yeah, mine fell and broke. I wish I could play Sonic Nurse on it again.

k-krack 12.17.2006 02:12 AM

Bummer, man! That's why I love cds. No worries about breaking the technology, hey?
Anyways, I need some sleep. Have a good night!

ZEROpumpkins 12.17.2006 02:37 AM

Sister because there is a naked baby on the front. it has some amazing songs on it

king_buzzo 12.17.2006 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Sister because there is a naked baby on the front.


ha!

sun city girl 12.17.2006 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by k-krack
Word. Bleach, however, is my least favourite. The drums sound so sucky on Bleach. (recording, that is)

no way, bleach is definitely their best lp. well, maybe not drumwise but whatever...

king_buzzo 12.17.2006 11:10 AM

London fuck you're pissing me off
Hollywood weirdo, cough cough cough
Won't you please let me rock you
Now I'm just a boy with not much to do
Everybody says doesn't come from above
You're gonna scream when you taste my love
Taste my love


Dead-Air 12.17.2006 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sun city girl
no way, bleach is definitely their best lp. well, maybe not drumwise but whatever...


I highly prefer in Utero myself. Bleach has some great songs, but it also has a bit of filler. In Utero has amazing recording by Steve Albini, and Cobain had really developed into an amazing lyricist.

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 03:52 PM

True speaking of Lyrics In Utero was Cobain at his best. But just punk-rock it was bleach.

king_buzzo 12.17.2006 03:59 PM

bleach pwned.

in utero was way better though, they got better and played better it was perfect.

i still like nirvana, but im just too anoyed by nirvana fanboys.

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 04:00 PM

so are you annoyed by me?

k-krack 12.17.2006 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by king_buzzo
bleach pwned.

in utero was way better though, they got better and played better it was perfect.

i still like nirvana, but im just too anoyed by nirvana fanboys.


Hipster fuck. I stopped caring about the amount of lame 'fans' that (not even really Nirvana, but Cobain) they have. Amazing band, all around.

SynthethicalY 12.17.2006 04:38 PM

I wish they would write a autobiography on Chris Novoselic.

jimrita 12.17.2006 04:38 PM

i voted goo... it's the second album i got to hear by them, so it was second in blowing me away, right behind daydream. i heard sister later, and sister is waayyy up there on my favorites... but goo had a bigger part in making me fall in love with the band.

jimrita 12.17.2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
there two totally different albums, not only in sound, but in emotion.

this is the same things as having a pole titled "jacki chan or julia roberts".

yeah, they are both actors, but different audiences are going to appreciate one more than the other.

just for the record, i prefer sister. however, this means absolutely nothing as the albums are both very different.



well said

HECKLER SPRAY 12.17.2006 06:41 PM

I prefer Goo demos than the LP. Bigger sound, better Mildred Pierce version, and the essential Lee#2, missing from the LP.

pantophobia 12.17.2006 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by king_buzzo
i still like nirvana, but im just too anoyed by nirvana fanboys.


it's been a conundrum for fans of nirvana for a while that it's own fans began to weigh down the band's legacy

and for those who said dave was more important then krist in that band, i think they need to move out of virginia and smell the coffee, having finally able to see krist play with flipper, i mean fuckin A he is a great bassist

k-krack 12.17.2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pantophobia
it's been a conundrum for fans of nirvana for a while that it's own fans began to weigh down the band's legacy

and for those who said dave was more important then krist in that band, i think they need to move out of virginia and smell the coffee, having finally able to see krist play with flipper, i mean fuckin A he is a great bassist


So true, plus, Dave was the drummer, he didn't write anything, he just played.

pantophobia 12.17.2006 07:50 PM

and i voted in the minority and said Goo

I like how sophisticated their songwriting became after ddn, and much more airy an atmosphere Goo has, almost ethereal at times

Norma J 12.17.2006 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
there two totally different albums, not only in sound, but in emotion.

this is the same things as having a pole titled "jacki chan or julia roberts".

yeah, they are both actors, but different audiences are going to appreciate one more than the other.

just for the record, i prefer sister. however, this means absolutely nothing as the albums are both very different.


I don't think I'm the only one who has came to the conclusion that you don't actually read posts correctly, or even read at all.

pantophobia 12.17.2006 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by k-krack
So true, plus, Dave was the drummer, he didn't write anything, he just played.


he did add to the band, but just as easily Dan Peters could have left Mudhoney to become their permanent drummer, and almost the same effect

Dave hit the drums harder then Channing, Crover, or Peters, and was the best drummer, i'll give him that, but people only have memorys as far back as TV can let them remember, and Dave becoming a star on his own clouds the perception that he was the drummer, and sans two songs didn't write anything


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