Eminem dropped a new single, called "Rap God".

he's rapping really fast over a shitty beat, the hook is corny and i can barely understand a word he says. however i must admit that his flow sounds awesome.

here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cQ3b0iqLo

(a) it did get ridiculously out of hand, misunderstood, and over hyped, but the roots were legitimate. A lot of rappers from the Eastcoast scenes came to LA. They brought with them their own personal feuds from where they came. The biggest problem was that it wasn't just rap, it was actual gang and drug dealing related beef. In the 1990s, the real street snuck into the rap studios for a brief window. Thank you Ruthless and Death Row Records, both of which never intended to be "big" but were set up as money laundering operations ;)

(b) Rap and hip hop was still bigger in the east than the west in the 1990s, so the biggest shows and TV shit was all on the east, rappers from the west did shows in the east, which gave for opportunities for the beef to be closer than thousands of miles away.

(c) The 1990s rap feuds were as priceless as they were classless. 1990s rap feuds were like when the "it" bands of the 1960s became hotel room destroying drug fiends of the 1970s, or the 1970s supergroups became the drunken flameouts of the glamish 1980s. When you give a bunch of low-lives, drop outs, criminals, drug users, and other kinds of street people access to fame and money its what happens. The 1990s was a great accident, it will never happen again, and we should remember it, and celebrate if we were a part of it. I might be biased.


Interestingly enough, I think this is LA weakest scene in years. When Odd Future are the flagship, we've got a problem. I think the 1990s was our obvious peak, but we were having a slight uptick when we cliqued up with the Hyphy movement a few years ago.


I've never heard the term indie applied to hip-hop, has it gotten so mainstream that the term "underground" has lost meaning, or is it indie that has lost?

That Em song is plain shit. Sweet, you can rap fast. Who cares when you're spitting a pile of shit over a terrible beat. Has Eminem not been conscious of what's happened in the world since 2004? Columbine, Monica Lewinsky... in 2013? Musically, this song is a regressive, predictable and safe attempt at trying to reclaim Eminem's status as a lyricist. Also, didn't he try to shed his image of a small minded, homophobic hick? The gay bashing proves he'll do anything to make himself seem edgy and make a quick buck.

But whose surprised?

yeah MMLP2 is probably going to suck.

http://www.stereogum.com/1525411/a-t...nye-west/news/

This makes me sad for some reason. Tribe should be a solid enough head-liner to be inviting Kanye to open for them, but alas, its not true, and it signifies the true and utter end of the 1990s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0S4zmCO3QE

this really sums up hip-hop in 2013. *dead*

I can't stand YouTube apps, so please explain how the hell you could possibly think HHID in 2013... A year that has brought so many great (or at the very least notable) hip hop albums that it's taken five of us to stay even remotely on top of them all (which we're failing at by the way.. Ha!)

What's this about Tribe?

Sorry gents, it's early and I haven't had a minute to jump on this thread in days.

Wait, what? Seriously? That's one of my biggest pet peeves. It's also one of the most hilarious pronunciation errors in history. I can't talk to dumb people about art simply because I can't hear that particular mispronunciation without laughing really hard in the face of whoever said it.

Makes it hard to find people to talk to about art, tell you what.

Oh, I picked up the latest Slum Village, titled Evolution. Apart from some overly disgusting sex songs, it's dope. I can't believe it's taken me this long to buy the thing.

i meant i was dying from laughter. you should've watched the video, it was a parody. :rolleyes:

how the fuck is everyone eating up rap god that song is absolute shit

Cuz people eat up crap rap like dung beetle larvae yo ;)

I can field this, 4ak:

You see, most grown men and women are essentially just large, obese, alcoholic babies. They become excited and/or lulled by the redundancy of rhythmic sounds and metered percussive beats. Like infants who are distracted into thoughtless mental drifting by the motion of a cradle, the average human adult will always be attracted to music, and because they're so stupid and utterly lacking in meta cognitive awareness, they use words like "like" and "love" to describe their feelings about music, even though it's just a physiological trick to escape the overwhelmingly complex consciousness these poor sluggish little beasts are trapped in. It's just the distraction from things like "thought" and "feeling," (two experiences that are way beyond the understanding of the average adult, adolescent, or geriatric) that keeps people "dancing" and singing along, and buying records.

For these people, listening to Sister in the middle of an acid trip would be physically and mentally dangerous beyond measure. For others, it's a perfect Saturday, or a summary of their twenties.

This is why people "love" bad music: they're dumb, and bad music (also dumb) is a perceptual narcotic. Just count yourself lucky to be one of the few, the proud, the people who take narcotics to escape the pain of others' stupidity, and listen to music to dig deeper into their minds, thoughts, and feelings.

just cuz it's Eminem. Tech N9ne raps fast but if he dropped that song no one would care.

yo i'm going through an ugly breakup atm, and Doggystyle is the only thing that has managed to cheer me up. :)

i'm wondering how come Dre has never worked on another album for Snoop.

Snoop was all over the Chronic 2001, but that was the last time, and that was years ago. The reality is Dre is a sensitive cat, and didn't realize how over his head he was getting involved with so many gangsters, drug dealers, and various assorted low-lives.

I can be quite the societal nihilist but seriously, a bit crass of an analysis there? I don't think people listen to non-substantive music because they are obese or substance abusers, rather, just because most people don't navigate the world with a sense of expansive depth. That is for artists. Many artists enjoy the art of other artists, but we artists shouldn't try and use our own insights to delve into the perspective of ordinary people. They operate on a different level. Besides, if anything, it allows us to not muddy up the pool, we can enjoy substantive art with relative freedom from the obstruction of people with duller tastes.

2001 is a mess though. it's an uhm.. singles album, sorta.

Dre is working with a dude named Jon Connor nowadays. Dre found him after he dropped a mixtape where he's rapping over a bunch of Eminem instrumentals. Dre's affiliates claim that this time he's in it "not for the money" and just wants to make good music.. we'll see i guess.

it seems like Snoop has lost his inspiration right after Doggystyle. what a shame, he used to be a brilliant rapper.

i'm wondering if he got the reference. :rolleyes:

Wait, what? Have you NOT listened to records like the DoggFather, The Game Is to be Sold Not To Be Told, The Last Meal, or The Blue Carpet Treatment? Those are fantastic records, and while NOTHING can compare to DoggieStyle, that shouldn't negate the value of 1994-2006 Snoop..

those are good albums yeah, but not classics.

The Dogg Father is most certainly a die-hard classic, but I may be biased living in LA where that record was practically worshiped after "Murder Was the Case" and the Snoop trial.

new TDE song, i think it's great - https://soundcloud.com/topdawgent/is...-shot-you-down

have you guys watched the BET cyphers? Kendrick killed it over the Shook Ones Pt. 2 beat, rest was meh though.

http://www.bet.com/video/hiphopaward...ers-uncut.html

Dre is credited as Doggystyle's sole producer, but Ain't No Fun for instance was actually produced by Warren G and Daz Dillinger.

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!! Aside from being one of the funniest things I've ever seen, that was the most legit parody of the differences between East and West Coast rap music!! Drunk and blunted is essentially a west-coast way of life ;)


Those are the examples as to why people were so pissed at Dre. He was involved in the same kind of shit that fucked out the D.O.C. Fuck Dre.

I think 2001 is basically a terrible album. I feel like Aftermath is a better follow-up to The Chronic.

Agreed. It was really just an EP and a lot of overhyped filler, but admittedly those three Singles were fucking HITS. And that beat? Fuck. As much as I can't stand fucking DMX, like at ALL, this is one of the best Tupac remixes of all time!!

You're all mad. 2001 is a great album. For me anyway.

2001 is awful. It's an awful awful shameful dragging through the dirt of the Chronic name. No thank you.

listening to Ja Rule atm. that early 2000's nostalgia.

let it be known... louder and noiseredux disagree on something.

Just finally got my hands on a hard copy of My Name is My Name.

Also bought cruel summer just because.

Oh, and I bought seven albums the other day. Can't remember what. I've been binging pretty hard.

Haha.. Kendrick Lamar

pretty sure Makaveli the Don would co-sign Kendrick.

OH MY GOD LOUDER, something terrine has happened!

Just got back from dinner with the lady and her sister, and the topic of rap music came up. I had to defend more than one artist, but mostly KANYE, who this girl (the sister) says does not write his own lyrics!!!

I asked where she heard that, and said that Kanye may swipe a line or two, but that he wrote, produced, and wrote beats for every albu he's ever done up to Yeezus, and many tracks for other artists.

She dismissed me with such confidence and certainty that I actually got a little scared, and quickly googled the subject on my phone.

Is it true? How could it be? "Consequence admits to writing lyrics for Kanye West" stood out as a headline.

Please tell me it isn't so! I know I was late to the party, and have been too busy dropping out of graduate school, working my ass off, and being bitter to pay much attention to what anybody other than you lot have to say about hip hop, so I apologize if I'm way behind, but Inneed this cleared up for me ASAP!

Someone weigh in. I would really love to subtly rub this in her face later, so please help!

it's true that sometimes Kanye gets help from others with a few lines.

i know that Rhymefest co-wrote Jesus Walks, Consequence probably co-wrote Champion and Lupe helped him with Black Skinhead.

"I didn't write my raps down for my first four albums - like all, I did it from the head straight to the booth," he said. "But on this last album, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, I wrote it because I really put myself in the zone that my life was dependent on the success of this album. With that being the case, I said, 'You know what? No matter what anybody says about me, I can write something that can make someone that hates me the most have to really respect or love the song.' So even a song like 'Power,' I spent 5,000 hours writing it, and it's really the psychology behind the lyrics; it's not just blatantly, 'I've got all the powers' - [it's] 'No one man should have all that power.' It's word[ed] it in a really sensitive way that opens it up for everyone."

also on Barry Bonds he said:

"I don't need writers, I might bounce ideas
But only I could come up with some shit like this"

Roc Marci is gonna drop a new mixtape next week:



1. Intro
2. The Sacrifice Prod. Madlib
3. Doesn't Last Prod. Roc Marci
4. Slingers Ft. Knowledge Prod. Mic Raw & Roc Marci
5. I.D.K. Prod. Roc Marci
6. Take Me Over Prod. Evidence
7. Higher Learning Prod. Roc Marci
8. Sincerely Antique Ft. Action Bronson & Willie The Kid Prod. Alchemist
9. Ice Cream man Prod. Roc Marci
10. 10 toes down Ft. Knowledge Prod. Alchemist
11. Velvet Cape Ft. Action Bronson & Meyhem Lauren
12. Shower Posse Ft. Knowledge Prod. Arch Druids

can't fucking wait!!