Sonic Youth Gossip - classic albums, atsonicpark edition # 7: polvo

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sarramkrop

03.15.2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

99% of music is math and all music can be reduced to math if you think about it. I highly doubt there are that many bands that are complex for complexities sake, except something like Orthrelm.

The only thing with math rock and mathy bands is some of the dumb band names and song titles. Rumah Sakit, for example, has the worst song titles I've ever heard. And there's this fucking amazing math rock band called "Giraffes? Giraffes!" ....... I mean, come on!!

Other than that, yes, a 7/4 beat is usually more interesting than a 4/4 one.

What are you talking about? You make little sense.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham

03.15.2008 01:45 PM

Really 99% of everything is math if you think about it.

sarramkrop

03.15.2008 01:47 PM

I've never heard anything more ridiculous than that. Sorry, no offence to be taken.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham

03.15.2008 01:52 PM

Well I was just saying because when I write a song the last thing I'm thinking about is math. Just because it has patterns or can be measured in frequencies does not make it math. But when you think about it that way everything can be broken down into math taking a bath for example, first the have the rate at which the water flows and then the volume it takes up in the tub. Then once you get in you start dealing with displacement and over time, at a constant variable depending on room temperatures the heat will change. So on and so on.

sarramkrop

03.15.2008 01:56 PM

Oh, I see.

atsonicpark

03.15.2008 06:46 PM

I made perfect sense. In fact, it's impossible to convey my message more plainly than how I conveyed it.

The only thing I didn't elaborate on, a 7/4 beat or whatever usually sounds more interesting and creative and will perk up my ears more than the same ol' 4/4 beat. But 4/4 beats work fine too usually. It doesn't really matter. I'm just saying, if you write off bands just because they're considered "mathy", you're losing out on lots of incredible, forward-thinking, creative songs.

ZEROpumpkins

03.15.2008 09:50 PM

I would agree that 99% of things are math. I mean even using a computer, you are interacting with a device that is performing millions of mathematical calculations per second.

GrungeMonkey

03.16.2008 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

I would agree that 99% of things are math. I mean even using a computer, you are interacting with a device that is performing millions of mathematical calculations per second.

but what about the many amazing phenomenons of life itself? breathing, talking, listening, sexing... do you put this down to maths?

ZEROpumpkins

03.16.2008 07:17 AM

Haha sexing. Well, if you wanna get into genetics...

sarramkrop

03.17.2008 07:16 AM

Ok, whatever.

uhler

03.17.2008 10:23 AM

yeah i do agree that most everything we do is related in some way to math. we just don't think about it that often, if at all.

i love basic math and stats, but algebra is not my favorite subject.

sarramkrop

03.17.2008 10:25 AM

To state that all music is math is a little silly, that's all.

fugazifan

03.17.2008 11:51 AM

it technically is, i mean all intervals are mathematic. in the middle ages when all of they split up the seven libveral arts, it was split into a group of 3 and a group of four. in the group of four where all kinds of mathematics and music...

anyhoo i DLed this album the other day and it is pretty sweet....

Rob Instigator

03.17.2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley

I avoid this band like I avoid most bands described as "math rock." It's not fair and hypocritical on my part but hey life sucks.

there is absolutely nothing but genius noise rock in polvo's discography

math rock is just a term, get over it.

it means nothing

Rob Instigator

03.17.2008 12:55 PM

My Celebrate the New Dark Age 3 seven inch vinyl EP is my pride and joy. I hunted it for years.

Polvo is oneof my top 5 bands ever. L:ove what they do and how they do it and what it makes my brain feel.

my

Rob Instigator

03.17.2008 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrungeMonkey

but what about the many amazing phenomenons of life itself? breathing, talking, listening, sexing... do you put this down to maths?

yes. no one is saying math causes this, but that math is integral to everything.

ZEROpumpkins

03.18.2008 12:20 AM

I have the copy with the tigers. On CD though.

pbradley

03.18.2008 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

there is absolutely nothing but genius noise rock in polvo's discography

math rock is just a term, get over it.

it means nothing

That post is from over six fucking months ago. If you read further, you would see that I did get over it.

You assholes can quit jumping down my throat about it.

atsonicpark

03.18.2008 01:53 AM

this thread is hilarious.

ZEROpumpkins

03.18.2008 01:59 AM

Arguments over maths = lol

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