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floatingslowly 02.20.2008 12:40 PM

due to shortened telomeres, "dog years" are being increased 45:1.

stop the insanity, clone cats instead.

█████████ 02.20.2008 12:51 PM

well i hope they mutate.
and then kill you.

o- oo-oh yes, cats are sadistic killers, it would be fun.

Rob Instigator 02.20.2008 12:56 PM

why would they "mutate?"

you are CLONING them

like identical twins.

█████████ 02.20.2008 01:00 PM

because the CLONING PROCESS is still NOT FLAWLESS,
therefore, among other things, MUTATIONS CAN OCCUR.



and it would be fun.

✌➬ 02.20.2008 01:00 PM

What I find disturbing is that they would want to clone someone who is dead. In other words I feel they are not going to be able to accept that it died, and it is a different animal, if we ever get to humans a different person as well. AM I making myself clear?

I have no problem with it if we are going to use it for medical purpose. Howevere, for something like this is where we are cloning someone because we used to like how they were, is rather disturbing.

Rob Instigator 02.20.2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by █████████
because the CLONING PROCESS is still NOT FLAWLESS,
therefore, among other things, MUTATIONS CAN OCCUR.


mutations occur with regular sex procreation too, thereforre we shouydl ban all sex? come on. specious reasoning out the ying yang

Rob Instigator 02.20.2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ✌➬
What I find disturbing is that they would want to clone someone who is dead. In other words I feel they are not going to be able to accept that it died, and it is a different animal, if we ever get to humans a different person as well. AM I making myself clear?

I have no problem with it if we are going to use it for medical purpose. Howevere, for something like this is where we are cloning someone because we used to like how they were, is rather disturbing.


people that have those issues are crazy to begin with man. people name their children after a dead first son or daughter all the time, it sucks and it is crazy but it happens.
the same goes for pets. people name their basset hound butch II like their first one. it is no big deal at all.

█████████ 02.20.2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
mutations occur with regular sex procreation too, thereforre we shouydl ban all sex? come on. specious reasoning out the ying yang

sigh, i just want a mutant cat to kill some people.

Rob Instigator 02.20.2008 01:13 PM

ever read about tigers in India man?

floatingslowly 02.20.2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by █████████
sigh, i just want a mutant cat to kill some people.


You must spread some DNA around before giving it to █████████ again.

girlgun 02.20.2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by █████████
sigh, i just want a mutant cat to kill some people.


i heard that pretty soon cats will be living in tall buildings and they'll be able to fly.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 02.20.2008 04:02 PM

I wanna clone this dog

 

tesla69 02.20.2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
people watch too many movies where clones are "rapidly grown"

dumb!!!!!


You're dumb! and have no imagination.

dudely, if they can create human clones why wouldn't rapid growth be right behind? Mess around with the genes andnutrition its not far off at all. and if I have to wait 10 years to bang your mother's clone, it'll be worth the wait. Yeah, if clones aren't human, then whats to stop me from fucking your mom's clone as a newly decanted infant? animal rights? not that that's my thing...

Rob Instigator 02.20.2008 04:10 PM

humans clones are human

dog clones are dogs

the onl;y reason people hate cloning is they think that "god" actualy picks out a "soul" and places it in each new baby. ridiculous!

speedy growth is pure fiction dude. it will never happen. maturity takes the same amount of time for birth babies as for test tube abbies as for clone babies. shit.

tesla69 02.21.2008 09:28 AM

Why are clones human? I'm talking the legal definition. And who is responsible for a clone? Can you just make a clone then dump the infant on the sidewalk? You're not the parent, so why are you be legally responsible? You seem to assume its all set up but there is no precedent to cloning.

Your comment about speedy growth sounds like the people 100 years ago who said human kind would never fly, or 600 years ago when people scoffed at claims the world was round...or in the 1800's when doctors laughed when people claimed that if they just washed their hands, they'd stop disease. Oh wait I forget, only God causes disease. For cloned organ replacement to work you'll have to have speedy growth - and perhaps it will only be portions of the body, there will just be racks of thoraxes where specific genetically reciped organs are quickly grown...for clone organ replacement to be practical you'll either have to have a clone waiting for your use for 15 years or use the speedy growth technology. The US is going to purposefully fall way behind in the technology while Asia will have no qualms about experimenting. And if its banned there (doubtful, I don't think there's anything China will say no to) a million dollars will buy you a nice residency in certain African corruptocracies (see Bush touring Africa to get some tips).

BUt once clones are developed, expect major worldwide population reduction. The elites won't need a breeding working class anymore, they can decant their own slave pool of workers.

I guess my predictions come down to whether or not clones have humans rights and I assert they don't no more than AIs do.

█████████ 02.21.2008 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by girlgun
i heard that pretty soon cats will be living in tall buildings and they'll be able to fly.

 

mm. titiez.

Rob Instigator 02.21.2008 09:57 AM

cloned body parts are NOT the same as a human clone.

a human clone is as much a human as a twin

it ain;t no thang!

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 02.22.2008 12:31 AM

These small gray ethical issues take steam away from the important issues: poverty, healthcare, hunger, war, energy, et cetera.

floatingslowly 02.22.2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
a human clone is as much a human as a twin


CLONES LACK SOULS.





































































(obvious troll attempt by floatingslowly imo)

Rob Instigator 02.22.2008 09:53 AM

souls lack souls!


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