So... I'm waiting on that apology yo.:(

Quoting yourself doesnt invalidate my criticisms of you...

It does totally make you wrong, petty, and vindictive. Again, stop attacking me, is it that hard to accept that somebody you may not like personally actually agrees with you? As you said, other posters can read my posts for themselves, hence the quotes. But this thread isn't about me or you, its about SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN and how fucked up that shit is and how we need to deal with. So I will reiterate. I'm a mandated reporter, if I hear, see, or suspect abuse, I report it. So, will you step up to the challenge and do the same? Sexual abuse, be it of children or rape of grown women, will continue if we all look the other way.


If any of us ever sees, hears, or suspects sexual abuse of ANYONE, they need to report it, end of discussion.

You can stick your apology up your arse, Ive read what you said, as ive read most of the bollocks youve posted on here for ages when serious matters like this come up. You are a conservative religious guy who thinks women should be in a particular role, I know where you stand on these things, stop pretending you're some kind of liberal; you aint and you know it.

In fact i am being EXTREMELY charitable calling you a conservative religious guy

i think that you should just admit you got flustered and forgot yourself ikara.

if not then i'd have to say this is one of the worst back and forths i've ever seen on syg. you've tried to insinuate something about suchfriends character, based on nothing. you accuse him of evading the subject while doing so yourself in the most obvious way, then you resort to simply calling him conservative, as if that invalidates him, when he (quite politely given the circumstances) answers every single point you raised.

there's no way of reading of this were you don't look utterly awful. i have to say, without intending to be mean, that you are way out of line here.

not exactly a proud moment dude.

with this issue, too often emotion takes over from rationality, or decides to use it solely as a tool to justify itself. which doesn't help anyone.

I am going on SuchFriends' previous statements as well as his statements here, you may not be aware of this which is fair enough, but I know what he has said on previous occasions, so i feel justified in my criticisms

nah, i'm well aware of his past statements.

as in, there are none.

none about this particular issue that in anyway insinuate what you want to insinuate.

now if you want to somehow frame his heterosexual libido and his general views, as really odious and vile, then goodluck. cos it's always light hearted. at times it may be somewhat crass, i dont remember it all that well, but from what i remember, compared to some of the other users here he's a gentleman.

in fact i'd probably go so far as to say he hasn't said a damn thing out of line about women. maybe things i and others might not agree with, but never anything particularly vile. and if he was called on it, he would be reasonable.

yeah, there's a certain conservatism inherent in his religious outlook. i wouldn't say right wing. he has his views. none of them are remotely as misogynistic as you want to make out.

im actually babbling on here about a guy that hasn't said jack shit and if he ever did, he would never go about it in a vindictive way.

erm, did you read this thread before posting in it?

yep.

this is probably the person i argue with THE MOST on this board, and with the most rage and intensity.

i've poured absolute scorn over him on more than one occasion.

but - it's just such bullshit to make the insinuations you wanna make about HIM out of all the macho dude bros on this fucking toilet wall. you picked the wrong target and missed.

you wanna show us those "past statements"? if not maybe you should apologize.

Top 5 Woody Allen movies?

1. Manhattan
2. Husbands and Wives
3. Annie Hall
4. Crimes & Misdemeanors
5. Stardust Memories

Typical Americans typically have absolutely no good reason to give a rat's ass about typical British entertainment types; and by typical British, I mean, pædo-rapists.

And...here ya go, skipper: http://youtu.be/Rjy8oLVOvi4

Also, this was the first time that I opened this thread. I read the title, thought, yeah, no shit, and moved on with my life, rage free.

that one was actually a joke... not your fault for missing it i guess
Im realising that leaving this place was a good idea.

sorry, I skimmed. it's all trash.

along those lines, I can't be fucked to read the thread with much gusto, but has anyone at all mentioned the second biggest travesty out of all of this?

by that I mean, all of the cunts who feel the need to question the validity of Dylan Farrow's statements? if they did, good on you; because you know, the kind of fame you get from being molested must be AWESOME.

but, yeah, sure, yr free to leave. ain't no-one stoppin' ya, although it is kind of pussy, seeing as suchfriends pushed you away. I mean...lol?

another STELLAR topic brought to you by guest3.0.

woo.

Can't we all just get along?

Liquid eyeliner all round, and at the double!

RIP Divine, Cookie Mueller and David Lochary.

The feminist radio show on WBAI was discussing this event last night. While they didn't take a side, they did note the trend across the country that women who complain about abuse often have their children taken from them for making an accusation. And that there are well funded "Father's Groups" that are really fronts for coordinated pedos and other abusers. The abusers stand together, waving their fucking flag, and bullying with their funders money.

beautiful.

this should be repainted in the style of the last supper or something.

don't let the atmosphere of disgust and absolute contempt hit you on the way out.

its not just often, at least in California this is standard procedure, which I've seen quite a bit when I was volunteering with family services and childrens' court. The reality is that if a child is sexually abused, the entire situation is considered a risk. ALL of the children are placed in temporary foster care, usually with another relative, and a case worker is assigned to assess the risk and full situation. The court order is for 6 weeks, most kids are returned to their primary caregiver within 3 weeks. Its a shitty situation for everybody, but the state has no choice but to cover all its bases. Sometimes kids are being sexually abused and the caregivers know about it and are even accomplices. The important thing it to remove the child from ALL risk until the situation can be properly assessed.

what the fuck happened to you? too many drugs/ too much alcohol? i remember a time when you were cogent!

i'm sorry to hear. i hope you get well soon.