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MellySingsDoom 02.10.2014 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
gast30 is a legend, so desist with your puerile witch-hunt and pc posturing. If not I'll post a photo of myself burning a copy of the Guardian whilst wearing a Ku Klux Klan hood, which I know will send you lot into an apoplectic fit of outrage.

Hey, I remember you! You're our resident Daily Mail reader! Man, it's been a long time, innit?

Anyway, have some Findus Crispy Pancakes:

 

!@#$%! 02.10.2014 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
Hi everyone,

My social anxiety renders me terrified of the two non-Sonic Youth forums at this site. On the rare occasion I do peek in, it seems like an entirely different community and I can't follow the discussions. That said, I think it's awesome that there's this whole world of people who love and annoy and entertain each other in the non-Sonic forums, presumably having initially registered here due to some interest in SY.

At some point, a few of us were made moderators to help deal with the ridiculous amount of spam (which the average poster never sees but if you could, you would probably stop visiting). While we have discretion to manage non-spam posts, I can only speak for myself. I don't police these sub-forums, I don't know who gast is, I certainly don't approve of this thread in particular but at the same time, I don't want to read their 7000 other posts to figure out what else they're contributing. Plus, what offends me may not offend others and vice versa. So, banning individuals seems like a last resort (and I should point out that one registered member still occasionally sends me death threats!)

I agree with those who say the ignore feature is the best response. This thread should have ended at one post. Aside from some lovely ladies, what else have the responses contributed?

Aaaanyway. If this persists/escalates/requires re-evaluation, you can find me in the SY forum discussing the variances in locked grooves on difference pressings of EVOL. Thanks everyone!

"Children, daddy is busy. Sort it out yourselves!"

YES.

demonrail666 02.10.2014 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
i was referring specifically to all that new french extremity stuff.
of all the the people you mentioned von trier is the one I like the least.
i don't think it's a coincidence that he got bjork to act in one of his films because he's like the film director version of her.

He definitely divides people. There's a ludicrous side to him, for sure. Anyway, he fits in this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stjM2q3D8I4

!@#$%! 02.10.2014 09:28 AM
ive never seen gaspar noé but you guys don't like ozon or "von" trier?

(i mean their work, not their public personas)

demonrail666 02.10.2014 09:43 AM
I quite like Ozon but I love Von Tier. Their films not their personas (although in the case of Von Trier it's sometimes difficult to separate them). Gaspar Noe seems increasingly like he's a one hit wonder. If you wanna see anything by him just see Irreversible. But be prepared. It's not an easy watch.

dead_battery 02.10.2014 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
Hi everyone,

My social anxiety renders me terrified of the two non-Sonic Youth forums at this site. On the rare occasion I do peek in, it seems like an entirely different community and I can't follow the discussions. That said, I think it's awesome that there's this whole world of people who love and annoy and entertain each other in the non-Sonic forums, presumably having initially registered here due to some interest in SY.

At some point, a few of us were made moderators to help deal with the ridiculous amount of spam (which the average poster never sees but if you could, you would probably stop visiting). While we have discretion to manage non-spam posts, I can only speak for myself. I don't police these sub-forums, I don't know who gast is, I certainly don't approve of this thread in particular but at the same time, I don't want to read their 7000 other posts to figure out what else they're contributing. Plus, what offends me may not offend others and vice versa. So, banning individuals seems like a last resort (and I should point out that one registered member still occasionally sends me death threats!)

I agree with those who say the ignore feature is the best response. This thread should have ended at one post. Aside from some lovely ladies, what else have the responses contributed?

Aaaanyway. If this persists/escalates/requires re-evaluation, you can find me in the SY forum discussing the variances in locked grooves on difference pressings of EVOL. Thanks everyone!

the problem is that someone inevitably does respond to gast and even if they dont, he will ruin every thread he shows up in by endlessly ranting and harrassing other users. your post sounds like a bit of a cop out, as if you are too afraid to offend anyone. please just delete the troll! he doesnt make it a pleasant environment for the rest of us to talk in, and his anti gay/woman/semite rhetoric is just not acceptable.

!@#$%! 02.10.2014 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I quite like Ozon but I love Von Tier. Their films not their personas (although in the case of Von Trier it's sometimes difficult to separate them). Gaspar Noe seems increasingly like he's a one hit wonder. If you wanna see anything by him just see Irreversible. But be prepared. It's not an easy watch.
same here w/ ozon & von trier. living outside of europe i don't get to see them on tv/the newspapers/ whatever so i only know them through their work.

noé does not sound like the kind of stuff i like (some kind of torture porn?) but i'll keep him in mind for the sake of literacy.

!@#$%! 02.10.2014 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dead_battery
the problem is that someone inevitably does respond to gast and even if they dont, he will ruin every thread he shows up in by endlessly ranting and harrassing other users. your post sounds like a bit of a cop out, as if you are too afraid to offend anyone. please just delete the troll! he doesnt make it a pleasant environment for the rest of us to talk in, and his anti gay/woman/semite rhetoric is just not acceptable.
no man, no. gastro isn't "rhetoric", he's babble. we don't need cops.

demonrail666 02.10.2014 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
same here w/ ozon & von trier. living outside of europe i don't get to see them on tv/the newspapers/ whatever so i only know them through their work.

noé does not sound like the kind of stuff i like (some kind of torture porn?) but i'll keep him in mind for the sake of literacy.

It's torture porn on the strength of two scenes but it's far too much of a headfuck to really just be thought of like that. It doesn't gross you out so much as leave you feeling sort of empty, depressed. It's a masterpiece but not one to be taken lightly. For me once was enough. Definitely watch it though.

demonrail666 02.10.2014 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
no man, no. gastro isn't "rhetoric", he's babble. we don't need cops.

This

MellySingsDoom 02.10.2014 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
no man, no. gastro isn't "rhetoric", he's babble. we don't need cops.

I'm gonna concede in public that yer right here (have already PM'd a member here throwing in the towel on my previous ban-hammering rants). Whilst I <still> take offence at his homophobia - sorry pop kids, that's just the way it is for me - he obviously needs some pretty serious mental health treatment...and I speak as someone who's just crawled out of 2+ years of severe MH stuff myself.

I was immediately reminded today of the Emma West case here that happened a couple of years ago.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dead_battery
the problem is that someone inevitably does respond to gast and even if they dont, he will ruin every thread he shows up in by endlessly ranting and harrassing other users. your post sounds like a bit of a cop out, as if you are too afraid to offend anyone. please just delete the troll! he doesnt make it a pleasant environment for the rest of us to talk in, and his anti gay/woman/semite rhetoric is just not acceptable.

Get over it. Some people might feel the same about your posts (not me, just saying)... Didn't you read the FAQ? DUH. We don't censor here. Just either put them on your ignore list, or bombard their threads with troll posts like the rest of us, but seriously, whether you like gast or not is irrelevant to our little SYG experiment in non-censorship.

Rob Instigator 02.10.2014 03:07 PM
What we all overlook is that gast is a homosexual Jew. Self-hate is the ugliest hate of all.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 03:08 PM
 

MellySingsDoom 02.10.2014 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
 


Man, I could sure use a Dumb-bucks coffee now. None of that fancy stuff for me!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Man, I could sure use a Dumb-bucks coffee now. None of that fancy stuff for me!

 

dead_battery 02.10.2014 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Get over it. Some people might feel the same about your posts (not me, just saying)... Didn't you read the FAQ? DUH. We don't censor here. Just either put them on your ignore list, or bombard their threads with troll posts like the rest of us, but seriously, whether you like gast or not is irrelevant to our little SYG experiment in non-censorship.

if you dont like censorship then expect to hear me call for that dipshit to be banned whenever i feel like it, or put me on ignore.

MellySingsDoom 02.10.2014 03:37 PM
And while I'm here - has anyone got any Lemsip I could help myself to?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dead_battery
if you dont like censorship then expect to hear me call for that dipshit to be banned whenever i feel like it, or put me on ignore.

That is fine. Maybe you can bitch and moan about it to these people in line while you grab some dumb coffee for Melly. Its SilverLake, so I'm sure at least 40 people with rimmed glasses and awkwardly stylish clothes will surely feux concern




 

MellySingsDoom 02.10.2014 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
 

I'll have one Dumb Chai Tea Latte, one Dumb Cafe Latte, and one Dumb Caramel Frappucino.

You want to know my name for this order? Sure. It's Henry Rollins.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
I'll have one Dumb Chai Tea Latte, one Dumb Cafe Latte, and one Dumb Caramel Frappucino.

You want to know my name for this order? Sure. It's Henry Rollins.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Fucking SHIT! I read Henry Rollins column in LA Weekly all the time, and I can't but wonder why the fuck does he like Starbucks so much? Its like, what is the word....


 


irony?

MellySingsDoom 02.10.2014 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Fucking SHIT! I read Henry Rollins column in LA Weekly all the time, and I can't but wonder why the fuck does he like Starbucks so much? Its like, what is the word....



 


irony?

Whoah, you mean Hank actually likes Starbucks? That's hilarious! I always had him down grinding his own beans and stuff, and not buying generic, taste-free "coffee".

Time for a Rollins coffee-themed tune, methinks: http://youtu.be/DeKcbiqm3lA

Glice 02.10.2014 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dead_battery
the problem is that someone inevitably does respond to gast and even if they dont, he will ruin every thread he shows up in by endlessly ranting and harrassing other users. your post sounds like a bit of a cop out, as if you are too afraid to offend anyone. please just delete the troll! he doesnt make it a pleasant environment for the rest of us to talk in, and his anti gay/woman/semite rhetoric is just not acceptable.

This.

I reported the original post. Part of the idea of a community is that it can define itself, make itself welcome to non-regulars. It can be self-regulating, by ignoring twats (I did this with most folk here, until I just stopped posting regularly) or not rising to the bait. Sometimes, autonomous, self-regulating communities can become soured by shouty pricks or voices getting too loud/ present. There's a lot of talk of 'manarchy' in some places I frequent at the moment. It's all well and good clinging to self-regulation to the end of self-expression but there are times - few - where something is just a waste of time. Banning an individual won't make the individual go away from life but it will make the outward appearance of the community more welcoming. By which I mean, no-one posts here any more and if there's something which is entirely, unapologetically beyond the pale in the middle of their eyeballs the forum will just wither and dry up.

Some moderator regulation is not a big deal IF the regulation involves removing elements that absolutely no-one would bother to defend. This isn't kristallnacht, it is not a crisis of ethics to remove someone who, even if the context were a solitary post, has said something so breathlessly offensive that it's indefensible by anyone.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 03:58 PM
I thought you knew! Yeah, he talks about Starbucks being his favorite place all the damned time, practically every week in his column. He goes there to read or work and spends hours at a time. I always think its lame, like Rollins, dude, you're fucking H-E-N-R-Y-F-U-C-K-I-N-G-R-O-L-L-I-N-S!!! What the fuck are you even doing in Starbucks let alone not destroying it? Can't he find a non-corporate hellhole to get coffee? Besides, their coffee fucking sucks, it always either (a) burnt or (b) stale or even worse, (c) both.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Glice
This.

I reported the original post. Part of the idea of a community is that it can define itself, make itself welcome to non-regulars. It can be self-regulating, by ignoring twats (I did this with most folk here, until I just stopped posting regularly) or not rising to the bait. Sometimes, autonomous, self-regulating communities can become soured by shouty pricks or voices getting too loud/ present. There's a lot of talk of 'manarchy' in some places I frequent at the moment. It's all well and good clinging to self-regulation to the end of self-expression but there are times - few - where something is just a waste of time. Banning an individual won't make the individual go away from life but it will make the outward appearance of the community more welcoming. By which I mean, no-one posts here any more and if there's something which is entirely, unapologetically beyond the pale in the middle of their eyeballs the forum will just wither and dry up.

Some moderator regulation is not a big deal IF the regulation involves removing elements that absolutely no-one would bother to defend. This isn't kristallnacht, it is not a crisis of ethics to remove someone who, even if the context were a solitary post, has said something so breathlessly offensive that it's indefensible by anyone.

Stop bitching. The guy is annoying, but nobody honestly takes any of it serious, and if gast is the only reason you stopped posting here, than I should send that motherfucker some flowers yo ;)

MellySingsDoom 02.10.2014 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I thought you knew! Yeah, he talks about Starbucks being his favorite place all the damned time, practically every week in his column. He goes there to read or work and spends hours at a time. I always think its lame, like Rollins, dude, you're fucking H-E-N-R-Y-F-U-C-K-I-N-G-R-O-L-L-I-N-S!!! What the fuck are you even doing in Starbucks let alone not destroying it? Can't he find a non-corporate hellhole to get coffee? Besides, their coffee fucking sucks, it always either (a) burnt or (b) stale or even worse, (c) both.

I wonder if Greg Ginn likes Starbucks as well!

Glice 02.10.2014 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Stop bitching. The guy is annoying, but nobody honestly takes any of it serious, and if gast is the only reason you stopped posting here, than I should send that motherfucker some flowers yo ;)

The reason I stopped posting falls between having better things to do and losing the self-hatred necessary to put up with the insidious sexism.

Probably a good idea to differentiate between 'bitching' and 'condescending to try and talk to you fuckwits like you might listen'.

!@#$%! 02.10.2014 04:43 PM
 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Glice
The reason I stopped posting falls between having better things to do and losing the self-hatred necessary to put up with the insidious sexism.

Probably a good idea to differentiate between 'bitching' and 'condescending to try and talk to you fuckwits like you might listen'.
All I heard was a bunch of hubris, but I also agree more or less.


 

I'm just trolling you Glicey, that's what we do here now.:cool:

Genteel Death 02.10.2014 05:23 PM
Well, at least we should all agree that this particular thread was started to offend a specific poster. That's the impression I got.

floatingslowly 02.10.2014 06:06 PM
I used to think that calls for a ban were spurred on by the weakminded. I feel that in the spirit of this board, moderation is a poor choice when there are already individual tools at hand to solve any irritant.

although I still believe that, despite how reprehensible he's become, banning gast is a wrong idea, I'm now starting to wonder if the difference in how to deal with him is cultural.

I think it's safe to say that any and all of us have made posts that someone out there would consider ban-worthy, and surely each of us is on someone's ignore list (I'm looking at you glice), but has there ever been a time where you felt that your words should be controlled by the general consensus or some GODLIKE MODFIGURE, like stu666 and whoever that guy was....

I don't.

fuck me, I'm with the Ras on this one.

hold my hand, suchfriends, we can get through this together.

Genteel Death 02.10.2014 06:24 PM
The only people who should have the last word when it comes to banning a poster are the members of Sonic Youth because it's their forum.

Chris Lawrence 02.10.2014 06:38 PM
Hi again. I should point out that we only received one "report" about this thread, from Glice. dead_battery is also being vocal in this thread, so that's two people. An equal amount of people are against banning gast in this thread, so I guess this is where we all exercise our individual responsibility to ignore things we don't like on the internet. I still can't fathom how this has reached 6 pages!

demonrail666 02.10.2014 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
The only people who should have the last word when it comes to banning a poster are the members of Sonic Youth because it's their forum.

That seems reasonable

floatingslowly 02.10.2014 07:11 PM
somebody call Kim. we got ourselves a predicament.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
I still can't fathom how this has reached 6 pages!

I see you really weren't kidding about only reading the Sonic Youth forums on not the non-sonic/non-sonic sounds threads. Its up to 4 pages because we're trolling the shit out of it hoping it either discourages gast from continuing or at the least, we can have some fun about it.

Genteel Death 02.10.2014 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by demonrail666
That seems reasonable
if they can take they all the insults we throw at them, it shouldn't be too difficult to understand that all the posters who populate the forum need to follow suit or leave.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.10.2014 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by floatingslowly



fuck me, I'm with the Ras on this one.

hold my hand, suchfriends, we can get through this together.

 


We got this yo.

floatingslowly 02.10.2014 07:39 PM
ooh....can I be the black hand? or have you got that taken already??? :)

Genteel Death 02.10.2014 07:44 PM
gast30 is a dinosaur jr-less king buzzo.

a
boywithout
his guitar
pedals
is only a
boy


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