my chemical romance is the single most pathetic shit I ahve seen on the TV in the past year.

God, you're gonna fuckin' LOVE the new Funeral For a Friend album.

that fuck is just pathetic. my chem romance are itchin for an asswhuppin

I dunno what you're problem is today Swa(y). You're turning into some kind of weird Emoboy parody. All that 'I'm on my own', Kurt's 'beautiful chaos', feel my pain shit. Act your age.

i think they're even.

schwa?

hahahahaha, this thread is stupid.

Diesel: i was going to put the alice in chains unplugged, at least some songs as you said, over now still gets me a little sad, but i'm not too fond of the guitar sound they had so i didn't think they completely pulled it off.

and most sonic youth are un-unpluggedable, remember bridge school '91? they could do an acoustic show of their last three albums but can you imagine anything from s/t /confusion/bad moon/evol/most of sister/most of ddn/most of goo/most of dirty...why go farther?

i just thought this thread was about how contrele liked the korn unplugged and they are not going to get any cred because they aren't as awesome cool as nirvana, i agree even if i think that unplugged shit is a joke, especially in korn's case. there's this double standard. but contrele, by discussing this, you are instantly talking about nirvana and bringing them up again, as you said it, stop living in the past.

Well, I can find something good in just about everything including Creed (I honestly kinda like my own prison), but that doesn't make it artistically valuable. It's light entertainment, and people eat that shit like fast food.

Actually, that might be a good analogy. Fast food may strive to serve healthy choices or exotic fajita wraps, but it's still fast food. There is nothing interesting there to an actual chef. So what if McDonalds has a new and successful ad campaign? Heh heh... featuring a Justin Timberlake "song".

I really like the guitar riff in this slipknot song, but it's still straight from an extra value menu for people who don't want to splurge on King Diamond. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hdY4bhsDiU

Timberlake doesn't make music. Some producers do, who are so hot rite now, so a record company has a meeting with Timberlake and they decide to go with Timbaland for the single.

I don't think R&B or hip hop are genres inherently packaged to be sold. I don't think the funk brothers or NWA were just trying to sell. I don't think the Roots are, either. They do sell, but they put their heart in it and because of this they sell less than 50 cent. Old motown shit is amazing and inspiring. The four tops is some of the best music I've ever heard. Usher, not so much. As the market opens up and these things become more profitable, quality goes down. It becomes about selling as many units as possible. This is a fact. There are focus groups and machines to listen for promising hit-like qualities. That means the music is homogonized. Trim the fat, figure out what works, what gives us the numbers, sell it.

yeah, it's sad; i still have a magazine add for the release of the album up in my room, it has the scene from the stage, with the band playing, and above it there's a group pic but layne isn't there, but the pic itself is on top of layne's shadow.

that unplugged compensates for emotion, i need to listen/see it again sometime soon.

My girlfiriend got the Alice in Chains unplugged dvd recently. I agree, it's really good. Layne looks invisible in it. It's sad, but powerful.

swa(y) is in rare form today.
Wow.
Just...wow.
This is even better than when he lectured Pookie and myself on the "history" of hardcore.

Right, let's be a bit more specific, then.Timberlake might or might not make his own music for all we know here (and both of us certainly don't hang around with him to ever find out about the truth), but even if he doesn't and he only has to rely on a team of producers to use the magic wand, i'm sure he has a saying in what gets put out under his name because,after all, the finished product doesn't make me think of something that has simply been made by a few pushings of some buttons and a handshake.He is a pop star, and he is more sincere than most in that he makes it obvious to the point of not making it obvious that he intends to make money out of his debatable lack of talent, something that i appreciate more than someone who strives for some kind of artistic purity but ultimately sounds and acts like they're in it for the money too.As for Hip Hop and R&B being genres that are carefully packaged to sell, it is something about both that i really admire because it only means that (general or non general quality of some of the records aside) some work is being put into it regardless of my liking what i hear or not.As it happens, i love both Hip Hop and R&B when I think they communicate something to me.When they don't,well, whatever.

junkies singing about junk have a long history in the annals of music.


depeche Mode's CLEAN is one of my faves

Clean
The cleanest I've been
An end to the tears
And the in-between years
And the troubles I've seen
Now that I'm clean
You know what I mean
I've broken my fall
Put an end to it all
I've changed my routine
Now I'm clean
I don't understand
What destiny's planned
I'm starting to grasp
What is in my own hands
I don't claim to know
Where my holiness goes
I just know that I like
What is starting to show

Sometimes

Clean
The cleanest I've been
An end to the tears
And the in-between years
And the troubles I've seen
Now that I'm clean
You know what I mean
I've broken my fall
Put an end to it all
I've changed my routine
Now I'm clean

As years go by
All the feelings inside
Twist and they turn
As they ride with the tide
I don't advise
And I don't criticise
I just know what I like
With my own eyes

Sometimes

I have this book. read it twioce. good stuff.

Who is Aaron Copland?

Hahaha, I couldn't have asked for a better reaction. :D


I'm not taking that bait - I don't believe for a second that you don't know who Aaron Copland is.

Noumenal is totally going to beat you up now.

he's some dead dude who was made famous by emerson lake & palmer, right? :D

Yeah, and the beef industry.....

it's what's for dinner.

aaron copland - american composer.

we played RODEO in high school. GREAT cello parts! I love a composer with great love for cello. Bartok was like that as well..

That was Mussorgsky.

moussaka? i've eaten that...

No, I seriously don't know who Aaron Copland is. Why is that so surprising? I know a lot about a lot of music, but only so far as the different veins lead me. Nothing has led me to Aaron Copland yet.

when did radiohead do an acoustic version of their own song?

I mean, i heard 'acoustic' versions of creep and maybe talk show host on some bootleg, but that's about it.

but i might be wrong :D

RH did a really great performance of (semi) acoustic songs in a live done for french channel "Artè". Just thom and jonny playing guitars, some electronic beats and piano.

Oh did they? I haven't heard of that. That could have been neat.
I actually still have big love for Radiohead, now that I'm thinking about it.

people still listen to Korn?
damn.

well jokes aside he's an american classical composer from the 20th century who took some traditional american motifs & blended them into his compositions including i think some operas?

at some point in the 70s emerson lake & palmer did a flashy, bloated, virtuoso version of "hoedown" (from copland's suite "rodeo", what robinstigator played)-- you've heard that (as 56 pointed out) in the "it's what for dinner" beef commercial. let's see if i can find you a clip...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-p...263787-6847350

anyway that's certainly not his best shit. i much prefer "appalachian spring". check it out sometime.

they have done that a lot, especially for radio sessions and promo tours. i have a bootleg where they play songs from hail to the thief on acoustics, just thom and jonny; a couple of years ago there was a protest and thom played a little set and he played a new song called house of cards, and thom played acoustically when he was on the henry rollins show. not to mention all the b-sides they have recorded

they really pull it off.

I think I'll upload the audio ripped (well, recorded) from the radiohead live @ artè sometime next week.

As a matter of fact, I underestimated my abilities.

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...&postcount=746

Haha.

KoRn unplugged...

The whole idea of KoRn is 7 string absurb fx pedal bleeps, so...

Everyone Knows who Copland is don't they?
He's a huge American Composer

I can understand how even when you know a lot about music, some music can escape your radar though...it took years before I actually heard a Velvet Underground song. Thankfully it was Heroin so I quickly seen the error of my ways.

Only on this board could the topic switch from Nu-Metal to American Nationalist Music.

The main problem with the Korn unplugged was that their songs aren't meant to be acoustic whatsoever. Jon Davis should have held back on the vocal rasp. The voice didn't carry well over a gentler sound. I thought that the last song was well done though.
I think the Nirvana unplugged is so highly praised because Nirvana songs are known to be generally loud and the way he sang was raspy as well. But the difference is that they picked songs for unplugged that would work instead of just playing all their hits like Korn did. And Cobain recognized what he needed to change in his vocals.
I feel like if Korn was Nirvana, they would have played songs like Smells like Teen Spirit and In Bloom..just because they were the loud and rocking hits.
Korn doesn't have many songs that would work acoustically.

Yes, I agree with you. But the thing is it had to succeed. What was the unplugged before Korn's? I can't rememberrrr

I have no idea... The last one I saw was Jay-Z, which was quite good.

Korn's songs are good fun if you dont take it seriously. I fail to see the point of them existing for so long though.

Deftones own them though.