I agree.

As regards the reunion I don't think its was that bad, they pulled a great show at Belfort.

I can't comment on post-reunion Pixies, as I wasn't interested enough to take any notice. But I can comment on pre-split, as I saw them four times on four different tours, and they were fantastic on the first two, but decidedly lacklustre on the last two. By the last two albums/tours their hearts weren't in it, the band was beset by problems with drugs and with relationships within the band. And the albums contained a few very good songs, but also a lot of very watery stuff. If they had split before recording those last two albums we would have been deprived of, maybe, six decent songs, but they would have finished on an incredible high with a near faultless discography behind them. As it is, they are looked upon as a great band that lost its way.

I used to be a real diehard fan some 8 years ago. Nighttime Birds and How To Measure a Planet were absolutely wonderful, then If_then_else were a little bit of a letdown, but after that it was just pure disaster (Souvenirs included).

However, seen them live in 2002 in Prague and they threw in some great show including weird things like theremin etc.

I've heard they have quite a maniacal fanbase in Mexico.

John Spencer Blues Explosion were great for a while but then lost it too. I think Orange is the pivot point on that one.

interesting. i guess the opinion is different in england, because here i don't remember anyone ever saying the pixies lost their way. motorway to roswell, planet of sound, trompe le monde (title track), and space (i believe in) are considered to be some of their finest songs, i think. hmm.

i can't comment about their live playing though i'm sure they sucked then and probably suck now.

I personally only dig the Pixies' first three albums.

Although I do like Dig For Fire, U-Mass, and Head On (one of my favorite covers).

see, and those are my least three favorite pixies songs.

some people are just opposite.

Pixies are a cool band but they have always been rubbish live. I never understood why they would insist on playing the songs live exactly like they played them on record. What is the point in doing that in a live setting?

funny how that happens sometimes.

Foetus.

Tom Waits.

Isis
Jesu

i saw some video of the pixies in their reunion playing in boston and it was a fucking train wreck, song after song it was a disaster; either frank was too fat and tired (and i don't mean "fat" in a mean way i mean fat in like he is physically incapable of doing shit because of his weight) to really sing, or they played the songs with a lot of disregard for it or (and this is the part i truly could not stand, as the others are products of time and age and can't be avoided) joey santiago, genius texturial guitar, went EVERY FUCKING TIME he needed to play a part to play the wah pedal like if he was tom morello, joey santiago could piss circles around tom morello with no pedals at all, yet he feels the need to use a wah every time a song needs his contributions. what the fuck? the only guy in the band who still plays amazingly is david lovering and they could pull out some songs amazingly, like "monkey gone to heaven".

and this was post coachella, it was filmed last year, actually.


what? souvenirs is genius!!! completely different from nighttime birds but then ntb is different from mandylion, they always did diverse albums.

yes, lots of people are into them in mx, actually, that almost turned me off to check them out, but i did. they used to play here in mexico every year. one of their first tours with anneke they played here, the place sold out and were singing to all their songs, so they decided to come back as much as possible. i never got to see them, every year, i'd say "oh, i'll go next year".

:eek:

:cool:


that's my opinion.

I'm not standing up for Jesu, I'm just surprised because 2 LPs and 2 EPs doesn't seem to be enough releases to qualify for moving from dynamite to stinking.

look at videos of their earlier gigs and then watch some recent footage.
Trust me, you'll smell it.

Hmmm, there was a slight odour when I saw them, but I put that down to them being better kept in a refrigerated studio than in an overheated club.

jesu? what?!

(echoed)

Noir Désir.

you can't like music and not like jesu.

conqueror is worlds better than anything justin has ever done, maybe besides side a of napalm's scum.

ohh, unless you're too cool for bands who release second albums.

jesu are actually probably the best band currently making music.

Is there some kind of bands-who-release-more-than-one-album snobbery going on that I've missed?

I like music but have never heard a single note by Jesu. Does this qualify me as some sort of heretic?

I'm worse. I like music, bought a Jesu record and promptly got shot of it. I'm due for a flogging I think.

You can't not like something you haven't heard. You're not a heretic, just underinformed.



Obviously you don't actually like music, you just think you do.

yeah,
i think bands with more than one release are overrated, especially when all the records are on the same label. That is so uncreative.

huh

I hope that the release that you are talking about is a 7'' single, because bands that release albums are a thing of the past. Dontcha know myspace?

At the risk of sounding like a hipster, a lot of bands that were dynamite now stink. It's mainly post-punk and punker fellows that fail to capture their youthish gold inevitably.

Cat Power started sucking heavily once she started writing happy songs with a capable backing band and all...


Just kidding, The Greatest is probably my second favorite album of hers. I'm just surprised someone hasn't brought her up yet as people seem to think she sucks now that she wears makeup and has confidence.

And PS... Pixies may have never been great live, but Trompe Le Monde is their best album IMO. And I never have liked Bossanova.

Well one band that have definitely remained consistent and were and still are dynamite is SHELLAC.

This new record is fucking fantastic. I want to stand on large buildings and shout it out for all to hear, it's that good. But then I'd probably get pissed off the mass are listening to it - 'cause I'm funny like that.

yeah shellac are still good but nothing beats doris/wingwalker and at action park...

Do you have the new Shellac on vinyl?

If so, does it come with a cd of the album too?

i don't but it does.

Yeah to be honest, I'm sick of Beyond bashing. It's a quality album that sounds just like Dino circa bug.

Anybody said Dinosaur Jr yet?

It sounds like that, but without the quality bit.

And why would you want an album that belongs in 1990?

No man, i'm talking about promotion 7" discs. Everything else is dinosaur, you know.