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jon boy 09.18.2008 07:42 PM

i like most of nirvana's records in utero and incesticide probably being my favourites.

noisereductions 09.18.2008 07:43 PM

Yeah, I mean in total honesty, there isn't a Nirvana album that I don't love. They're all great in my opinion and I'll listen to them all often enough.

gmku 09.18.2008 07:47 PM

They were freaking great. I got into them in 89 when I saw a poster in Salt Lake City for a Melvins show. Opening was Nirvana. I'd just bought a Melvins LP and I asked the store owner who Nirvana was. He said, "One of those hair bands from Seattle. The kids are all into the Melvins though."

I think then I picked up a copy of the Bleach LP, fell in love with the cover, and nothing was ever the same.

radarmaker 09.18.2008 07:55 PM

As much as I love them, and that they impacted my life in a way very few bands ever have or could do again, it must be close to 10 years since I listened to a Nirvana album start to finish.

gmku 09.18.2008 07:56 PM

I listened to Nevermind a bunch last winter.

Cantankerous 09.18.2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by radarmaker
As much as I love them, and that they impacted my life in a way very few bands ever have or could do again,

i would never have started listening to good music if it weren't for nirvana.

gmku 09.18.2008 08:00 PM

Ha, ha. I'm quoting you on that!

Cantankerous 09.18.2008 08:03 PM

why is that funny? i started listening to nirvana and it just branched out from there. i would surely have punched you by now if this were face to face.

noisereductions 09.18.2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i would never have started listening to good music if it weren't for nirvana.



samesies.

They're not my FAVORITE band, but they might be the MOST IMPORTANT band to me.

EMMAh 09.18.2008 08:10 PM

Yup, Nirvana seems to be the gateway band around these parts. For most people anyways...

gmku 09.18.2008 08:12 PM

I credit Sonic Youth for that. Got into them much before Nirvana. And I often wonder why Goo didn't do for Sonic Youth--and for alternative music--what Nevermind did a year later.

demonrail666 09.18.2008 08:16 PM

Was Smells Like ... getting a lot of TV slots in the US prior to it going mega?

gmku 09.18.2008 08:17 PM

Yeah. MTV played the hell out of it almost from the start.

demonrail666 09.18.2008 08:42 PM

Yeah, I've heard the video played a major part in its success. Musically i think it could've just as easily been Freak Scene or even Touch Me I'm Sick - which I actually think are for better songs than Smells Like ... But there you go. Just a case of the right song at exactly the right time i suppose.

punkaspoo 09.18.2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
They were freaking great. I got into them in 89 when I saw a poster in Salt Lake City for a Melvins show. Opening was Nirvana. I'd just bought a Melvins LP and I asked the store owner who Nirvana was. He said, "One of those hair bands from Seattle. The kids are all into the Melvins though."

I think then I picked up a copy of the Bleach LP, fell in love with the cover, and nothing was ever the same.

Go home you old man. I hate when you guys do that to us youngsters.

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i would never have started listening to good music if it weren't for nirvana.


yup, same here.

gmku 09.18.2008 08:55 PM

Yeah, true. I also think Sonic Youth might have seemed a bit too art scene smug for a wider audience. Nirvana was grittier.

gmku 09.18.2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by punkaspoo
Go home you old man. I hate when you guys do that to us youngsters.


yup, same here.


Um, what did I do to you exactly?

radarmaker 09.18.2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
But there you go. Just a case of the right song at exactly the right time i suppose.


And the right singer. Even if Freak Scene had been released a couple of years later as the whole wave broke, J Mascis would never have been on as many magazine covers and bedroom walls as Kurt.

punkaspoo 09.18.2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Um, what did I do to you exactly?

Reminded us that you were there and we weren't :p The time you discovered Nirvana in 89, I was shitting my pants and eating dirt.

Dead-Air 09.18.2008 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EMMAh
Yup, Nirvana seems to be the gateway band around these parts. For most people anyways...


Yeah, except for those of us who'd been into Sonic Youth for 3-4 years already when we first saw Nirvana in 1988...

gmku 09.19.2008 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Yeah, except for those of us who'd been into Sonic Youth for 3-4 years already when we first saw Nirvana in 1988...


I was in the same place. But there was something about coming across that Bleach album. It sounded so distilled and so angry. At the time though, I would never have thought Nirvana would become the phenomenon that they would. I was expecting that of Sonic Youth--I really thought with Daydream Nation they'd go really big.

But Nevermind is just magical, in my opinion. I really think it's probably the best sounding rock album ever recorded (that is from an engineering/mixing etc point of view) and the songs are fascinating.

And I think for many kids Nirvana just seemed easier to identify with than Sonic Youth. Not every kid was going to be in love with that art scene vibe SY had going, but they could all identify with that every-kid grunge look and attitude.

atsonicpark 09.19.2008 06:14 AM

Nirvana weren't my gateway band... I never had a gateway band. Maybe Boredoms since they have so many other amazing connected bands...

gmku 09.19.2008 06:19 AM

For a gateway album, I have to go all the back to my purchase of the Beatles' white album in 1968. That album woke me up to the idea that rock albums could be serious works of art, and ever since I paid attention to what albums critics regarded as "serious" albums.

Cantankerous 09.19.2008 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I credit Sonic Youth for that. Got into them much before Nirvana. And I often wonder why Goo didn't do for Sonic Youth--and for alternative music--what Nevermind did a year later.

sonic youth were too cool for that.

gmku 09.19.2008 06:36 AM

True. Genuine cool never has been all that marketable.

radarmaker 09.19.2008 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I never had a gateway band.


Well, aren't you special.

noisereductions 09.19.2008 07:21 AM

I didnt intend for this thread to cause so much in-fighting for my sonic brethren.

atsonicpark 09.19.2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by radarmaker
Well, aren't you special.


I dunno, do you find something special about my statement? If so, that's awesome.

lechaoscestmoi 09.19.2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
And I often wonder why Goo didn't do for Sonic Youth--and for alternative music--what Nevermind did a year later.

everything about goo was cool except for the music. it has three, maybe four decent tunes, then some of the shittiest songs i've ever heard by this band.. i wish it was as good as nevermind, and i'm not even a fan of that album either.

greedrex 09.19.2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lechaoscestmoi
everything about goo was cool except for the music. it has three, maybe four decent tunes, then some of the shittiest songs i've ever heard by this band..

o shit


hey Noiseredux , you made me unearth my old Nirvana Lps.
Good band!!!
These tunes rock hard
he he

noisereductions 09.19.2008 07:38 AM

greedex, I'm awesome! haha.

And by the way dudes. I think atsonicpark is special. I mean, if you dnt think it's special that a guy who's only 3 fee tall can jump over a school bus from a standing-still position, then I don't know what special is.

al shabbray 09.19.2008 07:41 AM

just wanted to say that aneurysm is one of their best tracks, that one always got me hooked (again)

greedrex 09.19.2008 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
greedex, I'm awesome! haha.

And by the way dudes. I think atsonicpark is special. I mean, if you dnt think it's special that a guy who's only 3 fee tall can jump over a school bus from a standing-still position, then I don't know what special is.

 

Cantankerous 09.19.2008 07:50 AM

i still love nirvana.

Quote:

Originally Posted by al shabbray
just wanted to say that aneurysm is one of their best tracks, that one always got me hooked (again)

that's one of my favourites.

gmku 09.19.2008 07:56 AM

Come on over, have a fit...

I love it too.

al shabbray 09.19.2008 07:57 AM

I cant say exactly why, but the whole song got so much drive, there only existing a few recordings (bootlegs) of it that are just good and not excellent. I think one of it is on the muddy bank...should relisten

Toilet & Bowels 09.19.2008 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
why is that funny? i started listening to nirvana and it just branched out from there. i would surely have punched you by now if this were face to face.


YEAH!

Toilet & Bowels 09.19.2008 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Yeah, except for those of us who'd been into Sonic Youth for 3-4 years already when we first saw Nirvana in 1988...


you're like a broken record.

and a paedo.

Cantankerous 09.19.2008 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
you're like a broken record.

and a paedo.


you're my favourite.

noisereductions 09.19.2008 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
you're like a broken record.

and a paedo.



hahaha


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