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the guys in black are the nazis, they threatened skylar because lydia quayle asked them to, she admits this in the cafe scene with todd, who is the guy in the black mask that was talking to skylar. she wanted to have skyler threatened because skyler saw her in the car wash talking to walt and knew she was involved in meth. now that skyler was talking to the cops lydia didnt want skyler to mention her involvement to the cops. also lydia probably assumed skyler knew exactly who she was because walt must said something for skyler to get that angry at lydia when skyler confronted lydia at the carwash. they killed jesse' girlfriend to punish jesse for trying to escape. they probably intended him to think they would also kill her son brock if jesse tries to escape again. |
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I'm aware the guys in black are nazis who Walt hired for various "jobs" in previous episodes. At the same time, it was clear Lydia Quayle was disappointed / mad they had not "taken care of" Skyler. I just found it odd they were so easy handed in their dealings with Skyler and so matter of fact with Brock's mom......when in reality, she honesty didn't know a thing. When you figured Brock's mom didn't know / hadn't seen Jessie in weeks while at the same time Skyler was plotting with Walt and eventually talking with authorities, the end result seems a little backwards to me. |
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it's because they were dealt with differently, for different reasons each interaction with their own logic as you remember potato face saying, "we have a lot of respect for your husband" that is also why walt kept 11 million instead of getting the same deal as hank. rezzzzpekt. jesse is only a gimp and his girl was brown (not a favorite skintone with the aryan brotherhood) |
Starting tomorrow night at 7PM Central, AMC will start with the very first Breaking Bad and air them all through the conclusion of the Final Episode on Sundaynight (61 episodes in all).
For those who have missed out or just want to re-watch a few episodes, set your DVR's! |
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OK, but the reason they killed brocks mom was to threaten jesse for trying to escape, not because she knew anything about the nazis, cos she didnt know anything at all about them. They wanted to send a message to Jesse - if you dont work for us, people you know and live are gonna die. Skyler was living in a house surrounded by cops, under their watch constantly, she was the most high profile witness in a nation wide case. Killing her would be far too risky for the nazis. If they had killed her, the cops would immediately do everything they could to track them down. If Lydia hadnt told them to threaten her, they wouldnt even have gone near her. |
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Does Heisenberg personality have to necessarily refer to a polarity or could there be more than just two differeing or conflicting or even reenforcing personality traits? Wait, I'm thinking this has something do with the Heisenberg principle, so I am interpreting the term as to imply that a certain personality is impossible to predict, which is a great concept, but when I googled this term it seems more so to be about the character in the show in particular, and I've never seen a single episode. |
Watched the latest Breaking Bad last night on Youtube thanks to the illegal uploaders (my heroes).
Awesome. Dread fills everything. |
I don't want to watch a bunch of tweaker drama on television, there is enough of that going on peoples' real lives ;)
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i thought BBs depiction of meth addiction was very realistic. i mean, even when you have people digging holes and crushing their husbands skull with an atm, they still got away with that.
jesse' eternal house party and his angst in the NA meeting, all brilliant. |
yeah rabgur - get it while its hot
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I wasn't accusing the show of glamorizing or romanticizing meth abuse, rather lamenting that meth has become such a standard aspect of 21st century life so as to become the theme of the most popular show on television. Sadly, the DEA suspects that there are more people who abuse meth daily than there are people who smoke pot daily! We're talking about like 20,000,000 to 6,000,000!!!! Holy shit that is a frightening prospect, because pot makes people hungry and listen to music, meth makes people utterly destroy their lives and the lives of most people close to them :( |
yeah totally.
meth, crack, coke - that kind of addiction will often give you permanent brain damage. i mean, its not polite to say but its true. coke will constrict some of the vascular veins in your brain. there's no going back from that. i often wonder if part of the reason we no longer resort to holocausts is the fact its more profitable to harvest the brains and bodies of the underclass with drugs. you basically turn them into rats scrabbling about with all their energy to move coins around to get a cheap hit. i mean, i know we dont have the kind of resource shortages that led to holocausts in the past. i just wonder what our societies would be like without any drugs or alcohol. |
Drugs are part of politics. They entrench poverty, perpetrate complacency, and fuel criminality which in turn reenforces the super structures of the police state. Even worse, they provide a black market treasure chest to fund black OPS around the world, completely off the books of the government and therefore entirely off the radar :(
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In this country they provide funds for the paramilitaries who in turn pretend to be protecting their communities from drugs. All they are really doing is protecting their profits and beating anyone who tries to get in on the market.
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just finished watching ep 15.
and my thoughts while watching it in time order: hmm better epidose, minus walt. the jackie brown guy! ..so cool persona playing only a small role there.. oh nice landscape with cabin, idiot should had books with him. 'if i tell you, yes, will you believe me' best line in the whole series.* ah a skroutz mac duck scene so, the idiot prefers to stay with the money, than being around his family during the final months of his life. yeah, thank you 'breaking bad' for reminding us about the love for money - we had skroutz mac duck for that already. we know that. and this isnt about what money does to people, although, nice try (*), this is an ego trip of a person who has serious and dangerous complexes as a character. mmm whiskey in a small town bar in winter..will i ever have the chance to have a life in a small town or island? right. him watching the origin of this complexes was a bigger shock, than the phonecall with his kid. |
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had only a glance on the latest posts but this, i mean the meth problem, the scene on the telly at the end and perhaps the skroutz mc duck scene in the cabin -im having an argument with myself over the whole money 'message' of the series- could be the only things that might make me change my opinion about the series. |
smth not entirely irrelevant, and whatever, i want to post it here.
http://www.strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/ if nothing else, it made me recall of when i was in the university 89-93 and how i daydreamed about smth that a professor was telling us: that in 10 yrs, we will be working from home. well, he mostly meant because of the technology, but i was daydreaming about few-er hours of work, more free time and better quality of life meaning with fewer stress. |
Can't remember if it was "the hider" or Saul, but one of them talked about the house being RICO-ed (removing Skyler and the kids). They explained it had become sort of a tourist attraction, so law enforcement put a fence around the home to keep sightseers out.
This scene is from the very first episode for the last season. As he enters the home, there are skateboarders skating in in the backyard pool. I'm guessing a skate punk or sightseer spray painted "Heisenberg" on the wall. |
the first scene was a flash-forward for sure. Ricin for everyone!
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the final episode is SO FUCKING CLOSE.
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yeah, plain stupid and dangerous, yet a somewhat smart idea to make some money; just as our culture works. on the other hand, at the same time, it can be ok to bring familiarity to forbitten, dangerous things. takes down the curiosity and taboo. hey did any of you people who were born in the 70s, had as kids cigarette gums been sold around? how did it make you feel? |
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oh no no, you've been mislead by suchy-poo's misinformation--- the candy lady is not getting on any bandwagon, she is the actual maker of the original prop, i.e., she was asked to create it for the show by the production team (who gets 25% state rebates for buying here instead of california). she is in a way the real heisenberg, ha ha ha. this is her product first. as for the implications--- i don't know. BB certainly doesn't glorify meth use! those tweakers are extremely ugly. |
oh ok. i thought she was making it for tourists etc.
and of course the show isnt glorifying meth use. |
well yes there is a breaking bad tour of the city that takes people places. i used to live around a bunch of them including the denny's where walt eats his bacon/ buys his gun and a condemned house that served as a meth house in season 1 i think (now it's been demolished). so they go to see lots of places-- locals can identify all the spots, so it's like a game. the place where they cook first, really pretty landscape, outside of town, i've taken photos there. garduño's where they eat that last meal with hank? that's all real too, ha ha ha (i don't like it much, but whatever). the car wash, etc.
so yes, of course the tour stops at the candy lady's place--- the candy lady is in a tourist area anyway-- the "old town" so sure the tourists buy it. every tourist goes to old town.  the whole area looks like this and is almost exclusively stuff for the turistas  kind of a wild west feeling. it's 300 years since it was founded but this is america and that's "old". this looks ready for a spaghetti western:  oh, here, they have a website http://www.albuquerqueoldtown.com total tourist trap, i hate the place, but i dropped off my parents to see it anyway, they like that shit. but i digress--- yes of course she sells to tourists. the original tv prop! like buffy's stakes. ha ha ha. i'd buy one of those. |
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http://thecandylady.com/nm&sw.html "product is not recommended for children" she sez. gotta get me a bag ha ha ha. some skulls for dia de los muertos too. |
I've got a bag of the "blue ice" candy. It came in a little ziplock baggie too, but they have the "Breaking Bad" title on it. I haven't ate any of it, don't like rock candy.
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As a fan of the original by Lana I enjoyed that, thanks. Am I the only one who thought that Mr. Merkert was somehow on Gus' pay roll? I always thought, the way he talked and acted didn't make a very trustful impression. George Merkert:  I guess, I was misleaded.Enjoy Felina! (actually, one of my cats is named Felina). |
Here's my latest curious idea, that just occurred to me re-watching the episode Mike dies. Mike went out standing up to Walter. Then Hank dies standing his ground to the Nazis. Bald men refusing to bow down even if it means their death. Then we compare this to Walt, who seems to want to be the kind of men that Hank and Mike are. Men who don't take crap from anyone. Yet we know Walt isn't really that strong in character, that much of his bravado is a front. So if/when Walt dies, will this show by not having him go out in that same screw you style that these men do, that Walt was never as full of conviction as they were?
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i have absolutely no idea how this show will end. i cant see walt going down like scarface, yet i cant imagine how else he will die either. we've been told repeatedly by the cast that there is lots of violence in this final season, so far hank, gomez and andrea have died. really, thats only 1 of the main cast who has died so far, gomez and andrea were never that vital to the show. it seems like more people will die - the nazis obviously, lydia could die or not and it wouldnt really be that integral to the plot. but the question is are any of the other main characters going to die other than walt?
marie, skylar, walt jr, jesse, the greymatter couple. i think we need to bear in mind that the show is basically already over, since the inevitable resolution of most of the story has happened - walt gets caught, hank dies, the cops find out etc. the family has fallen apart. if this was a movie, what we are going to see tonight is like the final bits they add after the main resolution of the plot for dramatic effect. really it was the last 2 episodes that concluded most of the story. all that is left is to end it definitively. like i said, i have no clue what is going to happen. i couldnt foresee how it has gone so far and i cant imagine how it will end. |
Misinformation? Misled? All i did was post a picture! You're lame, everything's lame.
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No, but it glorifies some kind of "Robin Hood" approach to drug dealing. There is no honor or success in destroying your community. What made all the tweakers ugly? Right, the asshole selling them the meth ;) |
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what is huell doing? last time we saw him he was in that motel room. how will potato faces affection for lydia play out? will the nazis get caught by the cops? this is the easiest way for jesse to survive. the nazis killed andrea, burgled hanks house (which the cops know about) and went to skylars house. seems like its being set up that the cops will locate them. will jesse and walt meet each other again before this episode is over? greymatter couple? will walt go to their home and have some kind of shoot out? marie? is she just going to grieve or will she confront walt? will SHE kill walt in revenge for hank? what about skylar and walt jr? will they ever see walt again? will gus frings zombie come back from the dead? walt - cancer? suicide by cop? scarface shoot out? closing shot of him heading down the freeway into the mexican sunset? what does jesse do if he survives? |
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nah man, it doesnt really do that. it skirts that but in the end it becomes about exploring consequences. i think BB, unlike scarface and most other drug films, manages to get to a level of realism - at least on an emotional level, that transcends either glorifying or simply condemning. it is not trying to glorify it then pull back with cheap moralism - oh look it ended badly so crime doesnt pay. it goes beyond that. its not like gta or something which is giving you the crime and the badassness but masking it in humour and irony to avoid the realism. now of course, you are right that in the minds of many of the idiot fans its glorious, but these idiots would think that about any movie that had any kind of badass crime and violence at all. i have to applaud bb for the absolutely spectacular achievement of being able to depict meth use. its such a difficult thing to capture, but it does it absolutely brilliantly. it mixes brutal realism with over the top stuff like hole digging and atms falling on heads, and it some how manages to pull it off. |
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If people are going on "tours" and stopping off to buy some souvenir "meth candy" in dope baggies and everything, what the fuck? I mean seriously, how the fuck am I the only one who sees something totally, epically, embarassingly wrong with this picture? The sadder part is the TV reflects real life, it doesn't create it. If there are mercilessly successful TV shows about meth, that shows the sad reality where meth has become a more or less normal part of everyday life. Meth is America. Its sad. Meth only destroys people. |
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