No real contributions, other than to second sonicl's assertion that Porkie is a delightful chap in the flesh. I've read existentialism, and most of what Atari's bleating on about. I have a faint idea what he's trying to say, but he's, again, articulating himself badly and blaming others' inability to read. It's a failing of the medium, definitely, but blame not he who is not at fault. And besides which Porkie's trying to wind you up more than he's engaging in a proper argument.

I'll close with a good ole' cock. Cock. [hehe]

I really can't the hipocrisy of you two.....and such blatant hipochrisy too!

I was being sarcastic, twat!

It's really hysterical that porkmarras would accuse Tokolosh of ganging up on him along with me when it's simply not true. What's so funny is that all you other people in this thread follow cliques like bleating sheep.

Yeah, it's the easiest thing in the world to communicate, and it's my fault for not being able to explain. It makes it even easier to explain it when those you are attempting to explain it to are resisting you at every turn, but yet, I can't seem to get it together.

Maybe you should take the floor and explain existentialism in a way these people can understand, Glice. While you're at it, please tie it together with Jungian psychology. You just professed to being somewhat of an expert, after all. Please, teach me! Teach us all!

Your posts, always in the same vein of an air of superiority that never elucidate upon anything are so fucking irritating!

On second thought, don't bother explaining, you may fool a bunch of nogoodniks but you don't fool me; you're a fraud.

Always have been

Always will be (question mark)

Better change your mind before it burns out, cocker on the rock.

Here's the indictment once again for you people that cannot process simple information:
It's really hysterical that porkmarras would accuse Tokolosh of ganging up on him along with me when it's simply not true. What's so funny is that all you other people in this thread follow cliques like bleating sheep.

Once again, you take the little of what you know about yourself and how you behave based on what others have told you about yourself when they were irritated with you and you then go about applying all that negativity to other people like the evildoing imps that you are. In psychological terms, it's known as negative projection and it's a self-defense mechanism.
How do these self-defense mechanisms originate? They can be traced back to fear which is traced back to denial of death.

Oh fuck it,this is just boring now.

I think this thread has become quite interesting actually.

Hush up shoe worshipper!

You bitterness shows through.

This is exactly what always happens. It went through my mind to write about this very point earlier, but I was too busy trying to respond to queries from the queeries. Look! I can be a smart-ass too!

What always happens is that if a discussion gets too meaty, someone, (and that someone is more often than not porkmarras, Cantankerous, or HaydenAsche) pronounces it a "bore" and then starts writing some superficial junk to change the subject.

A self-defense mechanism in action, folks.

Perhaps the point is that I accuse you of throwing the concepts in to garner some faux-intellectual nous which bolsters your non-points? My point regards your expression, as I've told you before, is not per se anything to do with the content, but the futility of explication. You're not going to convince anyone, certainly not on the internet at least. You don't explain yourself well, but you still get frustrated, constantly, by people not understanding where you're coming from.

I'm not going to explain existentialism as you well know, because if I were in a position to explain a philosophy which extends, at least, several hundred years, I probably wouldn't be wasting my time on the internet now, would I? What I could explain would get lost in the milieu of boredom which is a music forum. People don't read read on forums, they scan and pick up on cyphers and designators, they rarely read whole content.



Let he who is without sin indeed.


Again, is it really worth it? If you genuinely want an intelligent dialogue on anything, then feel free to use the PM function. I suspect you don't, but I'm not going to close that door. For the record, I have several qualms about a great many of Porkie's opinions, which we've discussed, but have never been so vulgar as to bother to do so in this hallowed medium.

Who ever smelt it [the bullshit] dealt it, to my mind.

I only bother because you are a pair of meatheads who are fun to demolish.
Wait atari,nurse is answering the phone!

Learn to not end a sentence with a preposition and how to punctuate a sentence, Mr. Faux.
Remember, you insulted me first.

I'm writing like this because I want people to understand me. I'm repeating myself because I'd like for the "scanners" to see the message. You write the way you do because you wear a mask. The name of that mask is pseudo-intellectualism.

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How do self-defense mechanisms originate? They can be traced back to fear which is traced back to denial of death.

More simply that could be explained by simply saying that sometimes some of us must do some work and that's that.Glice said it up there:i'm delighted that people have opinions different than mine and things can be discussed through mutual stimulation and debate.It's just not a particularly interesting thing to do with you.

What makes it even more fun is that you ACTUALLY believe this.

Demolish? Dream on Mr, 'cause you ain't getting rid of me that easy.

Pumps?

I'm ridding myself of this message board for awhile.

I've got to go do some work.

I can't say it's been fun.

It's been a tedious grind as usual.

slough...slough

I think you repeatedly misunderstand the people on this board and that's why you get so uptight.

Ever since a (to me) light-hearted exchange between us a LONG time ago, you've borne a grudge against me. And boy do you bear a grudge. A very short time after the exchange I'd forgotten who you were, but you've mentioned my name in a negative way several times since. If you remember I quickly left that particular thread when I realised you were being more serious than I'd at first thought.

I think most people use this board because it's fun and can be informative. And it's also a way of relieving the boredom at work. I honestly couldn't say what your motivation is, but it genuinely puzzles me.

For what it's worth, when you're not trying to prove your intellectual superiority to anybody who will listen, your posts are also fun and informative. I just don't understand where your desperate need to flex your intellectual muscles (whether real or imagined) comes from.

I go with motorcycle boots, but with the pants pulled over the tops of the boots and not tucked in like a highway policeman.
It must be said that I take a fair amount of flak for wearing leather pants, though.

That's funny, I can't remember mentioning you in this thread. I also didn't mention you in the "who do you hate?" thread. Have you got a grudge?

Take the back for your flock now like you know you can. bleat...bleat

You're a fucking bore.

Seriously, I can't be bothered with such nonsense.

oy, people, chill.

just like atari misunderstands the board (he does), people misunderstand him too. i've heard him being called "a robot" & what not.

however, i was reading nietzsche the other day (yes, call me pretentions, you dull tv-watching fucks), and i found this paragraph that illuminated atari's plight so i copied it. here it goes:

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Beyond Good and Evil

What is Noble

~282 ~

--"But whatever happened to you?"

"I don't know," he said hesitantly; "perhaps the Harpies flew over my table."

Nowadays it happens occasionally that a mild, moderate, reticent person suddenly goes into a rage, smashes dishes, upends the table, screams, raves, insults everybody--and eventually walks off, shamed, furious with himself--where? what for? To starve by himself? To suffocate on his recollection?

If a person has the desires of a high and choosy soul and only rarely finds his table set and his food ready, his danger will be great at all times; but today it is extraordinary. Thrown into a noisy and plebeian age with which he does not care to eat out of the same dishes, he can easily perish of hunger and thirst or, if eventually he "falls to" after all--of sudden nausea.

Probably all of us have sat at tables where we did not belong, and precisely the most spiritual among us, being hardest to noursish, know that dangerous dyspepsia which comes of a sudden insight and disappointment about our food and our neighbors at the table--the after-dinner nausea.

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there. i hope that clarifies. for those of you who can't bear fully-formed sentences, and are irritated by the mere presence of this text, please don't lash out in that rage that stems from shame, or i will be forced to behave (more than usual) like an obnoxious arrogant asshole.

Maturity on a board! Nonsense.

Good quote by the way.

These people insult themselves. I merely point it out.

I'm far from perfect, but as anyone can plainly see that reads this thread from the beginning, I was targeted firstm nagged and engaged.

You're right, !@#$%!, I should just give up all hope on these people if it's going to make me upset that they reject any understanding in life. I should just say, "fuck it" like everyone else does, including yourself. If you'll recall that's exactly what I promised I would do at the beginning of the thread until I got sucked into their nonsense. Yeah, I should really look out for number one. I should worry about everyone liking me above all and keep it light and trite. You're an expert on that. Will you teach me how to be the "fun teacher" oh great master? I am just a dullard, you see, and I need special guidance from someone of your fibre and caliber.

It should be abundantly clear to anyone that has any understanding of philosophy and psychology that I'm correct in my statements.

It's obvious that I'm dealing with a bunch of dim bulbs that think they light up the night like Las Vegas if they cannot grasp the simple terms in which I was expressing some of the more complex ideas that I posted.

porkmarras repeatedly goes back to this tired assertion that Tokolosh and I were ganging up on him. He seriously insults Tokolosh something terrible at one point which is worse than anything I've written in this thread. As I pointed out, it is he and his crew of rabble-rousers that are the ones doing the teaming together.

well, my point is that when you come to the funnel cake stand looking for a banquet (with all the platonic allusions included here), you're bound to suffer attacks of indigestion & all the colorful stuff that nietzsche described.

i'm not saying "lighten up atari" , but -- this isn't going to be the table you're looking for-- ever. it's like glice hoping this would be a "mental gym," remember?

funnel cakes are tasty though. don't eat too many.

Oh give it a rest you tedious arserhole.Enough is enough.This is about the 100th time that you mentioned me today,internet dude.

QFT

By that I mean he should fuckin carry on staying here. He's the only decent smelling air around here.

No you are.

well children i must be off, i let you two bicker, but i have to say i have no favorites in this fight.

and good to see you back h8kurdt. haven't spotted you here in a while.

The Simpsons is such a brilliant TV show.



Mr. Burns: Now get out!
Lisa:I can't! My mom's not picking me up for an hour.
Mr. Burns: So, what do you think of today's popular music scene?
Lisa: I think it distracts people from more important social issues.
Mr. Burns: My god, are you always on!?
fraudcast12.mp3

You know, The Simpsons has won the award for best comedy writing from The Writer's Guild of America for almost every single year its been on the air.

I'll sleep like a baby tonight, let me tell ya.

Haha.You really must be a bit of a saddo Tokolosh if you wouldn't be able to sleep anything but soundly with or without what i might or might not post.Now,obviously someone is feeling rather lonely,ya or not ya.

... you wish.

On the TV...

Jay: Welcome to "Coming Attractions". I'm your host, Jay Sherman,
thank you. Tonight, we review an aging Charles Bronson in
"Death Wish 9".
Bronson: [in a hospital bed] I wish I was dead. Oy!
Jay: But first, we have a special guest: Rainier Wolfcastle, star of
the reprehensible McBain movies.
Rainier: Jay, my new film izzay mixture of action und comedy. It's
called "McBain: Let's Get Silly".
[cut to clip from movie showing McBain with a microphone in
front of a brick wall]
McBain: Did you ever notiz how men alwayz leave zee toilet seat up?
[pause] That'z zee joke.
Man: [from audience] You suck, McBain!
[McBain pulls a machine gun and fires into the audience]
McBain: Now, my Woody Allen imprezsion: I'm a neurotic nerd who likesto sleep with little girlzz.
Man: [from audience] Hey, that really sucked!
[McBain pulls the pin on a grenade and tosses it at him...it explodes in the audience off-camera and we hear screams]
Rainier: The film is juzz me in front of a brick wall for an hour and zay haff. It cost $80 million.
Jay: [contemptuous] How do you sleep at night?
Rainier: On top of a pile of money with many beautiful laydeez.
Jay: Just asking. Yeesh!

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You know, The Simpsons has won the award for best comedy writing from The Writer's Guild of America for almost every single year its been on the air.

atari: i'm getting kinda tired of the "post a whole scene from the simpsons" posts. i know they are the bible but doing every time you post, it loses it's appeal.

I'm sure you're not the only one. I'm so sorry it distresses you so.

You know, the internet message board equivalent to flipping the channel is skipping the post.

atari,how many times are you allowed out every week?

yeah, but it ruins the simpsons for me!!! i read the first few words and i remember the episode and you so happen to quote episodes they are rerunning to death here, so then i see the show later in the evening and it's like i've already seen it.

i'm not against you or anything, just make your posts a little more worthwhile

Let's approach him with caution.