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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

The Washington Post's Daily 202 has a very good, extensive analysis of last night's bullcrap. Fuck Matt Lauer, by the way.

thanks, TSN, cross posted this

whoa... wow.. (in regards to that Gary Johnson thing)

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

https://thinkprogress.org/9-terrifyi...32a#.idgxekiu5

You can say he was talking about deterrence, but I think that's giving him too much goddamn credit.

haha wow that was a great read. Trump reads much more incoherently than he sounds when listening to him. wow... imagine reading this kind of dribbling nonsensical gibberish like everyday in the newspaper?

and any one STILL thinks this guys even has a small chance of becoming president???

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

whoa... wow.. (in regards to that Gary Johnson thing. when i saw this thread at work earlier i thought it wasn't real until i caught it in the news when i got home

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

and any one STILL thinks this guys even has a small chance of becoming president???

Yes, because people are egregiously stupid. What can I tell ya.

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

whoa... wow.. (in regards to that Gary Johnson thing. when i saw this thread at work earlier i thought it wasn't real until i caught it in the news when i got home

#WhatIsAleppo is quite trendy at the moment!

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

#WhatIsAleppo is quite trendy at the moment!

hahahaaaaaa is it a philosophical question now?

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Yes, because people are egregiously stupid. What can I tell ya.

i don't mean his supporters, i mean anyone else! look at Obama face, he couldn't even keep a straight face during his remarks about Trump.. i laughed from deep in my gut when i just saw Barry's speech about Matt Lauer bitching out just now...

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Originally Posted by President Barry Obama

I think the most important thing for the public and the press is to just listen what he says and follow up, and ask questions about what appear to be either contradictory or uninformed or outright bad ideas. There is this process that seems to take place over the course of the election season, where somehow, behavior, that in normal times we would consider completely unacceptable and outrageous, becomes normalized. People start thinking that we should be grading on a curve.

Barry had such an incredulous look on his face that it even looked like he rolled his eyes just after he said "outright bad.." as if you could almost see him visualizing some Trumpisms

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

i don't mean his supporters, i mean anyone else! look at Obama face, he couldn't even keep a straight face during his remarks about Trump...

Ever since he went into politics with the birtherism horseshit the assclown's been laughable. Hasn't stopped him from being a swing state or two away from the presidency. I won't underestimate this fuckface's chances until I can look at the sky the night of November 8 without seeing the Four Horsemen riding towards us.

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

hahaha trump is not a swing state away from shit. indeed he doesn't even project to having half the electoral college. i will repeat it again, if Mitt Romney couldn't win a national election which was very close Trump will get embarrassed. everyone who keeps saying he stands any kind of chance are just being superstitious or fearmongering.. yeah yeah sure sure que the vote this or its not in until its in blah blah woof woof come on................. guy isn't going to win and it doesn't take Biff's Almanac to confirm

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

bush wasn't gonna win and did--with the help of crooked florida officials and the supreme court, but he did

then bush won again based on jingoism and propaganda and a war mindset and the swiftboating of kerry--before the swiftboater bullshit, kerry was ready to dethrone dubya

romney got hanged by his 47% moocher comments-- can't say what would have happened without that recording because the anti-obamas were mobilized and the tea party was still on fire and the 2008 kids were burned out on reality

and as krugman says, hillary is in danger of getting gored

a couple more idiots like lauer and it can really happen

plus trump has support from the fsb. the chinese like him too and who knows what theyre up to. meanwhile the fbi/cia/nsa can't take sides in the election.

it ain't over till it's over.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

bush wasn't gonna win and did--with the help of crooked florida officials and the supreme court, but he did

then bush won again based on jingoism and propaganda and a war mindset and the swiftboating of kerry--before the swiftboater bullshit, kerry was ready to dethrone dubya

romney got hanged by his 47% moocher comments-- can't say what would have happened without that recording because the anti-obamas were mobilized and the tea party was still on fire

and as krugman says, hillary is in danger of getting gored

a couple more idiots like lauer and it can really happen

plus trump has support from the fsb. the chinese like him too and who knows what theyre up to. meanwhile the fbi/cia/nsa can't take sides in the election.

it ain't over till it's over.

Bush was closer to Gore through out the campaign than Trump has ever been, Bush was less divisive in his rhetoric indeed it was the myth of the compassionate conservative. Bush was electable at a national level. Trump? hagahahaaa.. again some of y'all are being too superstitious

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

whatever, i don't give a shit. not resting till all the votes are counted.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

whatever, i don't give a shit. not resting till all the votes are counted.

you're stressing out over nothing. i mean seriously. everyone afraid of Trumo needs to just take a breath, take a moment, and regain your sense of humor about things. the guy is a clown. just laugh at the clown.

if y'all wanna vote for Overlord Hillary do it. if y'all want others to vote for her tell them about her. BUT don't waste your time making it about Trump. it gives the asshole more credibility and legitimacy than he is worth

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

it's basic math-- you multiply the chances by the impact of those chances to calculate the real risk

trump's chances may be lower, but the clusterfuck potential is astronomical, hence the risk is nothing to dismiss

and black swans are a thing

a) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_matrix

see the matrix: unlikely (& above) x catastrophic = extreme risk

b) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory

extra bonus: the russkies
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.61a6a7969f4e

From The Washington Post:

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The Hillary Clinton email story is out of control
The attention paid to it has far surpassed the boundaries of the facts.
By the Editorial Board

JUDGING BY the amount of time NBC’s Matt Lauer spent pressing Hillary Clinton on her emails during Wednesday’s national security presidential forum, one would think that her homebrew server was one of the most important issues facing the country this election. It is not. There are a thousand other substantive issues — from China’s aggressive moves in the South China Sea to National Security Agency intelligence-gathering to military spending — that would have revealed more about what the candidates know and how they would govern. Instead, these did not even get mentioned in the first of 5½ precious prime-time hours the two candidates will share before Election Day, while emails took up a third of Ms. Clinton’s time.

Sadly, Mr. Lauer’s widely panned handling of the candidate forum was not an aberration. Judging by polls showing that voters trust Donald Trump more than Ms. Clinton, as well as other evidence, it reflects a common shorthand for this election articulated by NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick last week: “You have Donald Trump, who’s openly racist,” he said. Then, of Ms. Clinton: “I mean, we have a presidential candidate who’s deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn’t make sense to me, because if that was any other person, you’d be in prison.”

In fact, Ms. Clinton’s emails have endured much more scrutiny than an ordinary person’s would have, and the criminal case against her was so thin that charging her would have been to treat her very differently. Ironically, even as the email issue consumed so much precious airtime, several pieces of news reported Wednesday should have taken some steam out of the story. First is a memo FBI Director James B. Comey sent to his staff explaining that the decision not to recommend charging Ms. Clinton was “not a cliff-hanger” and that people “chest-beating” and second-guessing the FBI do not know what they are talking about. Anyone who claims that Ms. Clinton should be in prison accuses, without evidence, the FBI of corruption or flagrant incompetence.

Second is the emergence of an email exchange between Ms. Clinton and former secretary of state Colin Powell in which he explained that he used a private computer and bypassed State Department servers while he ran the agency, even when communicating with foreign leaders and top officials. Mr. Powell attempted last month to distance himself from Ms. Clinton’s practices, which is one of the many factors that made the email story look worse. Now, it seems, Mr. Powell engaged in similar behavior.

Last is a finding that 30 Benghazi-related emails that were recovered during the FBI email investigation and recently attracted big headlines had nothing significant in them. Only one, in fact, was previously undisclosed, and it contained nothing but a compliment from a diplomat. But the damage of the “30 deleted Benghazi emails” story has already been done.

Ms. Clinton is hardly blameless. She treated the public’s interest in sound record-keeping cavalierly. A small amount of classified material also moved across her private server. But it was not obviously marked as such, and there is still no evidence that national security was harmed. Ms. Clinton has also admitted that using the personal server was a mistake. The story has vastly exceeded the boundaries of the facts.

Imagine how history would judge today’s Americans if, looking back at this election, the record showed that voters empowered a dangerous man because of . . . a minor email scandal. There is no equivalence between Ms. Clinton’s wrongs and Mr. Trump’s manifest unfitness for office.

had this conversation with my friend last nite in between watching NFL opening night. i told him if Hillary got under 5% gap in popular vote i would be shocked, and i wouldn't be shocked if she carried 60% of the vote which would be virtually unprecedented in the modern era..

he showed me a poll that projected Hillary at 43% and Trump at 41%.. 2% of popular vote would be over a million and half people.. that is a sure victory.

remember all the FeelTheBern people hvent accepted reality they will show up for Democrats in November in meantime they are pouting as they flirt with other third party candidates. at the worst they probably just won't bote so if we just go by the numbers in the primaries (which is a fair indicator because primary voters are always the most active) Overlord Hillary has already been coronated

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Tell you what: If you're right, I'll send you a rare, exclusive Grateful Dead collection. If you're wrong, I will mail you a TURD. You won't know the package contains an actual turd, since I will label it as something attractive to you, like "Unreleased Sonic Nurse Sessions" or something.