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naughtymoose 07.15.2007 02:31 AM

Henry's Dress

and

The Aisler's Set album "Terrible Things Happen"

pbradley 07.15.2007 02:41 AM

I like my pop shoegazy.

So, like, shoegazing.

Iain 07.15.2007 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
when are you going to overcome this contrarian phase?


Quite. Yes, pop is fine. When you start singing the praises of Hadouken though, I really do start to worry.

contrelefuckingsexisme 07.15.2007 03:43 PM

cansei de ser sexy

finding nobody 07.15.2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by finding nobody
 

This album ruuules.. Very good pop

jonathan 07.15.2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
There is no good pop music.


Listen to the Kinks.

pbradley 07.15.2007 08:06 PM

Personally I'm getting tired of pop. Every other band nowadays is some pop rock scene fashion crap calling itself hardcore or screamo or whatever. All the lame pop rock like Green Day that exploded when I was in high school didn't really warm me up to pop either. But of course all music is part pop to some extent except for the most noisiest of noise.

I don't get why you are saying The Kinks are pop. I always considered them early rock as in the transition from early Rock N Roll pop to bluesy, harder rock.

hotbutterknives 07.15.2007 08:09 PM

gg-allin=dont...talk....to...me

Norma J 07.15.2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
Personally I'm getting tired of pop. Every other band nowadays is some pop rock scene fashion crap calling itself hardcore or screamo or whatever. All the lame pop rock like Green Day that exploded when I was in high school didn't really warm me up to pop either. But of course all music is part pop to some extent except for the most noisiest of noise.

I don't get why you are saying The Kinks are pop. I always considered them early rock as in the transition from early Rock N Roll pop to bluesy, harder rock.


I think you have a very warped view of what pop is... or maybe a very standard, non-thinking/unedutated view of what pop is. Pop isn't just something that's popular at the time, a trend. There's a theory that pop music is a song that is written within a certain confined structure, whether mainstream, a trend, or not.

pbradley 07.15.2007 11:25 PM

I guess you were too excited to call someone uneducated to have noticed that last sentence of my first paragraph. I'm using pop in the sense on the reliance of hooks. It's just happenstance that generally the more a song uses hooks, the more it appeals to a larger audience. I never said anything about pop being a trend.

BUT I'M UNEDUCATED!

Norma J 07.16.2007 12:22 AM

Yeah, I'm heaps excited to call someone uneducated. It's made my day to think that you don't understand what pop is. I couldn't have enjoyed myself more if I were on drugs.

Yet that last sentence doesn't change my post.

pbradley 07.16.2007 12:44 AM

Funny, because I would think that saying that the pop hook pervades pretty much all styles of music (as in being an element of general songwriting) would counter the idea that pop is just what is trendy or mainstream which you accuse me of thinking. Maybe you could explain the irrelevance of the statement for this poor, common half-wit?

Norma J 07.16.2007 01:04 AM

It's not about hooks, it's about song structure.

Anyway. As the Beatles (pop) said: Let it be.

startur 07.16.2007 09:43 AM

i second the pipettes

also:
-lucky soul (if you like the pipettes)
-the unicorns
-the cribs? (not really pop, some people call them neo-punk)

Glice 07.16.2007 01:45 PM

Pookie = wrong. But come across as a nice enough chap generally.

T&B - I'm not a contrarian in the slightest. I'm sorry I have better taste than you, really I am.

Cardinal Rob - Let's have kids. As mentioned elsewhere, that Stars are Blind was a single so good that no-one should've made it, and yet it was made by celebrity-culture's most risible figure. 'Mazin'.

demonrail666 07.16.2007 01:57 PM

Stars are Blind is definitely one of those songs that just emerges almost (it does sound a BIT like Blondie's The Tide is High I suppose) out of nowhere: a sparkling example of what pop CAN be. A masterpiece.

Toilet & Bowels 07.16.2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
T&B - I'm not a contrarian in the slightest.


yeah, but what true contrairian wouldn't deny being a contrarian?

jico. 07.17.2007 03:58 AM

why is this thread filled with crap? (apart from a few examples)


good pop?


 


this one for example.

sarramkrop 07.17.2007 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Stars are Blind is definitely one of those songs that just emerges almost (it does sound a BIT like Blondie's The Tide is High I suppose) out of nowhere: a sparkling example of what pop CAN be. A masterpiece.


I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a masterpiece and I like that song as testified by the very first thread that was dedicated to it on this very forum.
As far as pop is concerned, there is very little of it that is memorable in this time and age, but I think certain people pretend that it's happening and blah blah blah, it just somehow makes them feel safe, but said safety is unclear as to why should be felt in the first place. Pop's great when it has hooks, very little of wich i can hear in most songs that come out at the moment.

sarramkrop 07.17.2007 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jico.
why is this thread filled with crap? (apart from a few examples)


good pop?




 


this one for example.


Yeah, right.


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