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Wait.
I think I saw Jim wearing an Spice Girls' shirt once.

Yr a willful fan of those femmes...respectable to a very small extent.

I'm sorry...I have never met a real spice-girl fan...this isn't a joke? suk for honesty on yr chest?

I don't suk for anything.

me neither...this is as far as I'm going with this thread.

are you talking to me?

I love the Spice Girls and want to have their babies............

i really liked them when i was in 3rd and fourth grade. it'd be fun to see them on tour now, but quite frankly i'd probably hate myself and regret it the minute i'd buy tickets.

TLC was and always will be better.

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Originally Posted by k-krack

To be honest, I was a 90s kid, and I didn't like the Spice Girls... at all. I was listening to KISS [which is, hilariously, just as big a marketting piece of shit as the Spice Girls] from the time I was like, 6 until I discovered better music.
I do ackowledge their presence in my youth, as does anyone of the time period. As to whether or not yr in any position to judge the music of the Spice Girls... care to explain why you aren't??? Of course you are, otherwise, you are apparently living under yr own fascist rule.
To summarize*, of course they were an "important" part of youth culture throughout the 1990's, but that in no way justifies saying they are somehow worth praise or... fuck it, a reunion tour. It's hogwash, and even amongst the people that are going to see any Spice Girls reunion crap (probably teenage girls and the like) it is still about maintaining some hip irony status... seriously. Irony is hip everywhere, not just in the independent music world. Nobody actually cares to see or hear it, they just want to be able to say they have seen or hear it, because that, in this backward-ass society, is totally rad.
And of course, the finale to all my rants and raves, a relation to Nazism and fascism! Nazism was all the rage back in the 30s and so, yet we don't look back on that and say, "Hm, maybe we should give it another shot, some people had fun back then!" **

*summarize my ass! it's longer than the rest of this crap!
**this last bit is kind of a joke... don't take it seriously...

That's all well and good, but I'm afraid your assumption that all fans of teeny-bop pop have some sort of self-conscious irony thing going on just aint true. A catchy song is a catchy song. Why do you think that stuff is so popular in the first place? Because it's catchy. I like catchy. I'm sorry that you have to go through life being such a miserable fuck.

Kiss are awesome, by the way. (no irony)

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Originally Posted by Glice

cunt the fuck off.

tragically under-used phrase.

Keep up the good work!

yeah, anyone who goes to see the spice girls reunion tour i would imagine is probably more likely to be going out of a genuine liking of the spice girls, aside from glice, he's just trying to set the cat amongst the pidgeons, like the bros song that he thinks he likes.

Two words for you: Jail. Bait. Perhaps cat amoungst the pidgeons [sic] is some sort of metaphor for bumming teenagers?

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Originally Posted by hat and beard

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I looooove catchy songs.

I hate people who are ashamed of liking catchy songs. Ashamed enough not to admit that they like a catchy song.

There are lots of people like that over here.

I'm well passed having elitist views on music. When I have a party, songs can range from My Chemical Romance all the way to Phillip Glass and Shostakovich and everything else in between. The joy of music is discovering something new and exciting, now of course it would be stupid not to acknowledge certain artistic and asthetic prejudces but the less of these you have the better.

K-Krack the reason I say "i'm not in position to judge" is because whether it is good on any level is irrelevant to me. When I listen to it im immediately drawn back to a really great time in my life. The Spice Girls had a huge cultural impact, if you are of a certain age the music makes you re-live that time and place and that goes beyond all the hip, ironic and elitist reasons people may think. Every kid usually has some music to which he has a certain degree of nostagia and why is the Spice Girls any different? The reason is because The Spice Girls are a real unifier. They defined an age. Now this probebly meant a lot more to you if you were between the ages of 8-13. People forget how great it was to have a band that was your band, not something your parents liked or something you picked up from your older brother. These wer the days before we understood youth orientated marketing so it was as real as anything else. If I was a little older perhaps I would have wished the whole annoying fad away and spent to hours instead up in my room listening to OK Computer and A Thousand Leaves.

:) exactly.
i even have their dolls

SHAJHJA

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Originally Posted by Washing Machine

When I have a party, songs can range from My Chemical Romance all the way to Phillip Glass and Shostakovich.

Haha. Bet those last two get the party jumping.;)

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Originally Posted by Washing Machine

The Spice Girls had a huge cultural impact, if you are of a certain age the music makes you re-live that time and place and that goes beyond all the hip, ironic and elitist reasons people may think. Every kid usually has some music to which he has a certain degree of nostagia and why is the Spice Girls any different? The reason is because The Spice Girls are a real unifier. They defined an age. Now this probebly meant a lot more to you if you were between the ages of 8-13. People forget how great it was to have a band that was your band, not something your parents liked or something you picked up from your older brother. These wer the days before we understood youth orientated marketing so it was as real as anything else. If I was a little older perhaps I would have wished the whole annoying fad away and spent to hours instead up in my room listening to OK Computer and A Thousand Leaves.

This is a superb point. And, at the time of the Spice Girls, I was in that awkward 'I want real music' phase of teenhood and, strangely enough, sat in my room listening to Ok Computer and A Thousand Leaves. Some of the music from that period I was wrong to overlook, methinks. I wouldn't include the Spice Girls in that, but that's probably a personal thing.

Anyone who seriously thinks that the Spice Girls were truly influential or 'created' attitudes in the music business needs to get their head checked, and as soon as possible too. They perhaps incremented the amount of shit that this world has to bear on its shoulders, but that shit was around before they creeped out. It's just a case of them getting luckier than most with their wrong doings. Sorry, but you've got to draw a line somewhere or the silliness goes on and on.