What do all these intellectuals from years gone by have to do with noise?

I tell people I like noise rock because that "noise" best mirrors what I have running through my head at any time. I ahve always loved static, I find it ridiculously soothing, and sleep inducing, just dead static on a TV turned to a channel with no signal. Oh man, I am getting sleepy now thinking about it.

Argue about it all you like.

Again, I can only speak for Britain here, but honestly, in the 80s, Sabbath were way off the radar for a significant section of the country's metallers. During the Thrash period, for example, they were way down the pecking order. The bands themselves may have given the odd nod to Ozzy, et al, but for the average teenager listening to Among the Living or Rust in Peace, they really were just one of those bands their vaguely cool uncle tended to like. I can't say this for America, and I'm even sure that some British posters here might disagree with me, but from my own experience of growing up in Britain at that time and listening to Thrash, I can honestly say that that's how I remember things.

hey demon, every single thrash/speed metal band constantly gave the highest praise and admiration to sabbath, and every metal fan I ever ran into gave praise to sabbath, the ozzy sabbath, not the dio sabbath.
britain tends to be a more trendy flash in the pan in it's admiration for music and bands, and that may be part of it, but the original black sabbath was always foremost in most every american metalhead's mind, I am sure of it.

I can't argue with that. America always seemed a bit more 'grass roots' in that respect, atleast compared with Britain. Which isn't to say that having such a grass roots attitude is necessarily that good a thing. Or maybe I just think that because I'm British.

The theoretical meaning of the polarisation of noise has been disputed since the 17th century. Two types of meaning are given to the balance of the noise influx into the appropriated artistic meanderings of the noise maker. This concept is not so hard to grasp if one is familiar with volatile notation.

sarramkrop is like the noise Buddha

i don't think it's a coincidence that americans tend to take this mindset and that america has been far more consistent in its production of good rock music over the last 40 years

I entirely love you for posting that. Although I'm more of a Lakatos/ Feyeraband kind of guy.

EDIT: and it was entirely appropriate to this thread, although I find it's very difficult to place 'paradigm shifts' within artistic fields younger than a century.

what youre saying makes no fucking sense to me at all. mainstream music is mainstream because its easily accesible. iannis xenakis made experimental music a long fucking time ago, and its still not popular. or maybe you just have a broder definition of popular than me. either way, this arguement is pointless.