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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

I haven´t heard the whole record, but what I´ve heard it sound to me miserable. Lyrics may be great, but the way Lou "sings" them is miserable. I also like some music that I consider perverse, but I don´t think this is perverse. But of course everybody have own opionions about what´s perverse.

I assume that with ''miserable'' in this case you mean ''not pleasant to the ear''. Lou Reed's voice has never really sounded pretty to my ears, but somehow he's got a way of intoning words which I've always found interesting. And on his best music it really works. I'd say his voice is overall at its most pleasant on ''Transformer'', ''Berlin'' and some songs on ''Coney Island Baby''. Over the years the same voice turned from coldly flat to plain dull-sounding and kind of forced, where before it had a spiteful, and occasionally mantric quality to it I could appreciate. I think on this record he started playing with it again for the first time in many years. It's genuinely angry and grotesque sounding, like your most feared uncle when he turns up completely drunk at the family christmas gathering, and suddenly he playfully tries to strangle you. That kind of WTF factor. Reed on top form does the WTF thing better than you and me. Boo woo!

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Agree with everything. Street Hassle is really good too, I think.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

this particular record is bolder and more daring than anything Animal Collective - the first ''cool'' band that popped up into mind - have ever done. In that respect I don't understand why it's getting slated so much. Some of the lyrics are brilliant. In a couple of songs I find them even brutally sad. As you may already know, there aren't that many great lyricists in rock music at the moment.

Slagged especially by people who haven't listened to it or only heard a 10 second snippet - but thats what passes for opinion these days.

It probably did not need to be a double CD, however...

I think Lou's wife told him to do this, she's a pop culture mastermind and knows this will keep in him in the public eye.

And to anyone who says Lou hasn't done anything value since the 70's, if you haven't listened to his CD with his wife recorded at The STone then you don't know what you are talking about.

They played White Light/White Heat on Jools Holland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQAv...layer_embedded

It's so bad, Hetfield probably is the most comical man in music though

it isn't that impressive but I don't think it deserves all the bashing it's been getting.

yeah, i actually kind of liked the white light white heat thing, at least i like the way that lou reed sang on it.

A perfect review of this thing some call an album:

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The life cycle of Metallica can easily be compared with that of a company. As start-up they were bursting with energy and enthusiasm and launched three breakthrough products that established their name. After an unexpected personnel change, the direction shifted slightly, but "…And Justice For All" was still very good and propelled them to international success. The 'Black' album promoted Metallica to global corporate and since then consolidation has become the standard. The enthusiasm and genuine creativity from the early years became a rare feature. In the 21st century, the conglomerate Metallica survived a monstrous product (‘St. Anger’) but rehabilitated themselves with ‘Death Magnetic’. Thanks to the massive downloading and fragmentation within the hard rock and metal genre, no band managed to oust Metallica from their throne as most popular metal band. A joint venture with Lou Reed needs to help Metallica’s fight against their faltering creativity.

Analogous to a global advertising campaign, the tension has been carefully built up by first releasing the concept and photographs by Anton Corbijn release, then the cover design, and finally the names of the songs and their lyrics. On paper, the cooperation between elderly rock rebel Lou Reed and Metallica looked at least intriguing. The story from 1913 by the German playwright Frank Wedekind about the life of an abused dancer seemed to provide sufficient points for a great musical adventure. Guitarist Kirk Hammett raised expectations by stating that the band has been spontaneous for the first time in twenty years and gave the album high marks for creativity. Now the album is finally, we can own judge ourselves.

‘Brandenberg Gate’ kicks off the double album with a rather slow beat. Lou Reed’s recitative presentation of the lyrics requires some adjustment, but after several spins still proves to more a nuisance than an enhancement. A talking Lou Reed is however bearable, his singing voice is downright awful. He sings out of tune and often appalling bad. ‘The View’ sounds like a recording from Metallica’ garage days sessions. Basically it is just a collection of riffs that go nowhere and sounds like a warming up tune by a roadie. Reed’s vocals are again terrible. As soon as Hetfield takes over the vocals the song becomes enjoyable. ‘Pumping Blood’ has a trademark staccato riff and an intermezzo in which Reed reads his poetry-like lyrics. After some experimental drumming the song ends in a mess. On ‘Mistress Blood’ we hear a thrash riff that could have come off ‘Kill em all’. Unfortunately Reed’s vocal performance again ruins everything. On the fifth song the bar is set even lower with a bunch of chords that sound like practice material for new songs. ‘Cheat On Me’ has a slow start, develops into a soundscape during which Lou Reed reads aloud. Not until the final quarter the song kicks into motion. The eight minutes that follow are aptly called ‘Frustration’. The next low point is called ‘Little Dog’ and is extremely boring. Is this the band that once ignited the Aardschokdag festival and released classics like ‘Ride The Lightning’ and ‘Master of Puppets’? ‘Dragon’ is one of the most experimental songs and starts so bad that you’re running to the skip-button. It’s just resonance with the out of tune voice of Reed. The second half of the song is better, but way too monotonous. ‘Junior Dad’ closes this epic failure in style.

Metallica deserves credit for this bold step, but also massive criticism for the disappointing and downright awful results. A positive point is the production. Metallica hasn’t had a production in which guitar, bass and drums sounded sharp, deep and clear in quite some time. Such a production would have made ‘Death Magnetic’ a lot stronger. This is not the avant-garde masterpiece we hoped for, but unbearable garbage. This is audio food for masochists. The band reputation is down the drain (again) and they will have to come up with a very strong album to wash the aftertaste of this epic failure away.

http://www.lordsofmetal.nl/showrevie...=20224&lang=en

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Originally Posted by candymoan

"i am the table..."

u know everyone talks shit on that line but is it really any worse than ¨i´m the cocker on the rock....¨

nah...
it's just that hetfield had been taking himself far too seriously and it's nice to see that change..

it's not only about the message per se, but the delivery kills me each time i hear it..

This album brings back talking about characters, and Lou Reed is good at writing about characters. Imagine, in a world where almost everyone is so busy with talking about themselves, what it's like to observe and write about other people.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

oh man i heard once the edgar allan poe "musical narrative" by lou read-- was it the raven i can't remember-- and it was awful in spite of the star-studded cast (i think steve buscemi read one part).

here i don't predict anything good but metallica sounds good in the background-- at least until the singer opens his mouth.

metal bands should give up vocals completely, like pelican.

oh here you are you fucking idiot

your prediction was wrong, hahahahahaa. most of it anyway

fucking idiot lolol "predicting". i hope you know better now

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but yeah it's great that hetfield mostly shuts the fuck up here. whenever he sings he spoils things for me

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

13 years later, even more so

The one Lou Reed album I don't have. And I have Lou stuff that even Laurie Anderson doesn't have. ;)

Metal is stupid.

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

The one Lou Reed album I don't have. And I have Lou stuff that even Laurie Anderson doesn't have. ;)

what, like... a jar full of young lou's pubes?

creepy...

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Metal is stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LGX8TbvGew

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

what, like... a jar full of young lou's pubes?

creepy...

The real question is why did your mind go there. Now that is creepy...

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LGX8TbvGew

Jeff Bridges should have won an Oscar for that role, but the Academy doesn't give best actor/actress in a leading role Oscars for comedy, because the Academy is stupid. Like metal.