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static-harmony 11.06.2006 02:16 PM

We think like this because we are animals, and animals have revenge in their bodies. It just comes natural to us to think people deserve what they did.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
We think like this because we are animals, and animals have revenge in their bodies. It just comes natural to us to think people deserve what they did.


well for animals revenge is immediate and more of a defensive behavior than a "revenge". revenge seems to be a human thing-- best served cold, etc-- of course we are animals too.

my objection to this automatic reaction however has to do with the fact that an ideology of punishment seems to be the greatest manufacturer of social and psychological ills. if you are "bad" then you "must be punished". the funny thing is that this social ideology generates inordinate amounts of self-hate in individuals (see for example hayden asche's latest bout of self hate, in which he becomes his own "punisher" for his perceived "faults"-- sorry hayden but i just remembered that).

self-haters tend to gravitate towards crime, addiction, and violence-- which is supposedly what punishment is designed to avoid. yet it only creates more situations that require "punishment". so while some fruits of "punishment" seem to satisfy immediately, the seeds of the ideology only create more of the same. are you aware or how many people live in u.s. prisons these days? oh yes they are getting "what they deserve". uh-huh...

Savage Clone 11.06.2006 02:27 PM

Actually, the "greatest manufacturers of social and psychological ills" are probably breeding/overpopulation and religion.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Actually, the "greatest manufacturers of social and psychological ills" are probably breeding/overpopulation and religion.

well, religion is #1 into "punishment" and "sin" and "going to hell", right?

porkmarras 11.06.2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Actually, the "greatest manufacturers of social and psychological ills" are probably breeding/overpopulation and religion.

Some might think that collecting dentist chairs is the sign of a society that has gone too far.

static-harmony 11.06.2006 02:33 PM

I have to agree with savage on this one. But !@#$%! prisons are overcrowded because less criminals who did something wrong are not being killed. I think capital punishment is not as bad as people make it seem. I say murder should set you for capital punishment.

Savage Clone 11.06.2006 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Some might think that collecting dentist chairs is the sign of a society that has gone too far.



Perhaps, but it was free and so very very awesome.

porkmarras 11.06.2006 02:40 PM

In that case.........

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:49 PM

anyway, expect riots & further terrorism when saddam hangs

in the meantime, the cost of the iraq war has surpassed 340 BILLION dollars

http://nationalpriorities.org/index....per&Itemid=182

i figure this hanging will add up significantly to the tab

static-harmony 11.06.2006 02:52 PM

I never understood, why killing someone costs more than keeping them in jail.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
I never understood, why killing someone costs more than keeping them in jail.


you should try doing a little research.

anyway, funny i just found this prophetic text....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...110762,00.html


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