Pfft.

And that ''Primitive Cool'' album is even worse than that one. Yes, I have listened to it.

Who in their right mind would even consider listening to a Jagger solo album?

i'm besides myself for the fact that space fucking ritual is on the top 20.

seriously, i didn't expected it.

and well, this thread is no fun at all "it should have been blah and blah at number one", shut the fuck up.

yeah, but if I look at the amount of points then it probably only took two people to get it voted into the top 20... I'd only be surprised if there were actually 10 people who voted for it.


On another note, I always wonder how much these kind of lists are influenced by current events... I mean stuff like Daydream Nation and Velvet Underground seem to be pretty standard choices on this board, but I suspect Loveless wouldn't be at no. 2 if it weren't for the whole MBV reunion currently going on...

I'm sure if you did this thing last winter then Joy Division would've easily made it into the top 20 because of the Control movie... probably even top 10. Same with whatever reunion happened to be going on at a certain time during the last few years that resulted in dozens of threads about said band. (2004-Pixies, 2005-Dinosaur Jr.... and the inevitable 200?-Pavement, etc)

so, recount and not do an eurovision-like rating system?

ew, boring #1
great idea and thread though

Any honorable mentions that barely didn't make the cut?

Er...

nice nice, impressed.

but, where's psychocandy? and joy division?

(maybe you mentioned them before but i couldnt be bothered to browse through the thread.)

i had to listen to it out of politeness

Big love to anyone else that voted for On The Beach

i spent too long deliberating & i didn't get my vote in in time, not that it would have changed anything

1. sonic youth - sonic death
2. dead c - dr 503c
3. guided by voices - alien lanes
4. boards of canada - music has the right to children
5. windy & carl - depths
5. harry pussy - what was music?
5. dj shadow - endtroducing
5. bardo pond - lapsed
5. public enemy - fear of a black planet

alternatively i could have gone for this

1. sonic death
2. daydream nation
3. confusion is sex
4. badmoon rising
5. sister

demonrail - did anyone vote for Here Come The Warm Jets? That's the one I was kicking myself for not including.

i didn't think most people would take it that seriously.

Jeff Buckley - Sketches For My Sweetheart the Drunk
David Bowie - Low
Nine Inch Nails - Downward Spiral
Bright Eyes - Lifted
Radiohead - OK Computer
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I'm pretty sure that would have been my vote, or something like it. That's why I didn't.

Yes, loads. Your missed vote meant that it never quite made the hallowed twenty!

Radiohead are one of the most boring bands I've ever heard, except Kid A. I appreciate them and respect what they do to an extent, but I just can't get into anything they do anymore.

keith richards called it "dogshit in the doorway"...i wouldn't even give it that good of a review.

pretty cool list, nice to see The Birthday Party in there as well.

I have no problem with Loveless being there either, I don't see any real "flaws" with the album, even now.

Great Job Demonslayer3000

i got 3 in the top

beatles white album
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daydream!!!!!!!!!!!!

You don't see anyflaws in Loveless? Bad production, tinny drum sound, boring and predictable songs, and an especially weak second half. There's like 5 really good songs on the whole thing! I have had it for.. lemme think... this is the 6th year I've owned the CD, and I really don't see the big deal with it at all.

But, y'know, to each their own!

To go back to what someone said about the top 20 being a safe and predictable list... I dunno, I just think most of those records aren't very interesting. The Birthday Party and Captain Beefheart are probably the best bands in that top 20. I dunno. Just weird.

I'm not shocked at all. I just think this list isn't better than the other lists that were posted before.

You know what was a much better list? Batreleaser's top 500 records of all time.

:rolleyes:

i like the second half of loveless a lot more than the first half, and i like most songs in the first half as well.

i can't be objective about that record, it's one of my favorites for emotional reasons, i guess.

I just think a band so obsessed with sound wouldn't make the drums sound so .... tinny.

I just find it a very very hard album to listen to from beginning to end. I don't think it's a bad record by any means -- just not the # 2 best album ever. That blows my mind.

Also, the second half as I always say is filled with some weak grungey numbers that just bring the whole record down a lot.

Never really liked "Only Shallow" either.

"Loomer", "When You Sleep", "Sometimes", and "What You Want" I think are all absolutely amazing songs. But the others, I dunno.

^^^

i like the flow of the album, like the songs that aren't "holy shit what the fuck" are more like the calm, like interludes if you will.

like i said, i can't be objective, but yeah it's an album of sound more than songs, although about half those songs are ridiculously good.

Interesting

That's what I've always thought. It would have made an incredible EP.

i'll admit the list is a little boring. none of the albums aren't great or anything its just, dare i say predictable. although i am surprised at the birthday party selection. i voted for trout mask! that was my one selection that made on. still a cool survey. thanks demonrail

That's why "you made me realize" is probably the only close-to-perfect MBV release.

I just think a lot people on this board like really simple, obvious, boring things. No offense to anyone, there's nothing wrong with that at all.. but I mean, there are White Stripes fans on here for example. I mean, this shit's terrible!

I thought Double Nickels on the Dime would be a shoe-in.

Nah, too interesting of an album.

Hahaha. I dunno. I always see so much Minutemen fellatio on here. I'm really at a loss for words.

Anyway, here was my top five:

1. Tangerine Dream - Zeit
2. Neil Young - On the Beach
3. Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime
4. Can - Future Days
5. Miles Davis - In a Silent Way

Don't think anyone else voted for my #1, thought #3 was a definite, two and four were maybes, and I'm not sure how much love Miles gets on here.

That is a fucking excellent top 5 man.

Also, yeah, I thought I was alone in saying "Future Days" is my favorite Can album.

did it ever occur to you that maybe they wanted it that way and maybe because it doesn't cater to your taste specifically doesn't make it flawed or a bad album?

Oh okay, well, in that case, every album is perfect then! Because if every band does what they intend to do, no matter how good or bad we percieve it as, it's a perfect album as long as they accomplish their goal!

...If it sounds like shit, it sounds like shit. Even a lot of people who love the album have said that the drums sound like shit. Also, they originally didn't want to use a tinny, lifeless, shitty drum machine but their drummer got injured.. so I'm taking a wild guess that, no, the band didn't want it to sound like that..

it probably would sound better if they had big boomy drums. but it's fine as it is.

actually kevin shields would probably still be in the studio working on it if they'd let him.

Radiohead CDs really rely on the investment you make, which isn't necessarily a good thing.

I spent a long time learning all the songs from OK Computer (and Kid A). I have a much stronger appreciation for it because it's a million times more intricate and exciting in that arena. I feel like I "understand" it a lot more, so it's more enjoyable to me, but it literally took my learning it to fully appreciate it. Not everyone is going to take that kind of time.

Kid A is an amazing album too, but it's dominant qualities are more obvious because they're in the texture. On paper it's interesting, but nothing like OK Computer.