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Dr. Eugene Felikson 06.13.2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
I'm the buffoon that reads comics WITHOUT advertisements in the middle of them... go figure.



You do realize that most readers of Superhero comics don't read them exclusively right? Generalizing such a popular, and varied genre is quite foolish and self-limiting. A lot of those books go just as deep into emotional and political issues as your beloved indie rags.

Judging the quality of a book by whether or not it supports its publication through ad-space is also pretty tacky. Just lettin' you know.

hevusa 06.13.2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
You do realize that most readers of Superhero comics don't read them exclusively right? Generalizing such a popular, and varied genre is quite foolish and self-limiting. A lot of those books go just as deep into emotional and political issues as your beloved indie rags.

Judging the quality of a book by whether or not it supports its publication through ad-space is also pretty tacky. Just lettin' you know.



You like men in tights, I get it. I'll stick to the art without ads in the middle of them and you can keep staring at crotch mounds and Arnold chests. Superhero comics are for idiots.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 06.13.2011 04:06 PM

Ladies and gentlemen,

This is your brain:

 


This is your brain with hevusa's logic:

 


Thank you for your time.

hevusa 06.14.2011 05:34 AM

 
 

Dr. Eugene Felikson 06.15.2011 08:48 PM

Something tells me that your inner-child hungrily cries itself to sleep in a damp, desolate cavern every night.

gast30 09.07.2011 05:54 PM

a new thorgal is out nr 33


 

Pookie 04.24.2012 05:54 AM

Oregon-based artist/writer Brian Churilla (The Engineer, The Anchor, Creepy, The Avengers & The Infinity Gauntlet) takes a pew in The Outer Church to discuss his acclaimed new comic book for Oni Press, The Secret History Of DB Cooper. The book is a fantastical elaboration on a genuine mystery: the true story of the only successful skyjacking in US history, whose perpetrator has never been caught...

With music from Raime, Black Mountain Transmitter, Slomo, ElpH, Dolphins Into The Future, Ship Canal, Suzanne Ciani...

Keeping It Simple 04.24.2012 06:16 AM

I grew up reading 2000AD, Starblazer, Commando and, of course, especially if you're a Brit, the Beano and Dandy.

gast30 04.24.2012 07:44 AM

gonna keep my comic book secret
want to make one
if i have years of free time
i can get there
i'm not easy satisfied

dale_gribble 05.22.2012 03:08 AM

milk & cheese

Keeping It Simple 05.22.2012 06:37 AM

I read Lobo for the first time in the library. It's pretty good.

gast30 05.22.2012 06:55 AM

i'm not so deep into these batman worlds
so i can't follow all those things

have a few new batman
i still have to read
as the other 90% of the my new comics

i'm sensitive reading these comics

LifeDistortion 07.02.2016 04:53 PM

Bumping this thread. What comic books are you guys reading lately? I got my first e-comic recently Wytches Vol. 1, and I'm loving it, but sadly there is only one volume of that so far. So now I'm already looking for my next read. I suppose I could always get Watchmen. Yet, I'm also thinking something more recent. I've heard great things about Saga. I've also never read Locke & Key, any other reccomendations? I love stuff that's dark, weird and really engrossing within the horror/sci-fi vein.

Severian 07.02.2016 05:05 PM

I'm getting caught up with all the new DC Rebirth stuff. Superman, Action Comics, Batman, Detective Comics, Flash, Green Arrow, and DC Universe. About ¾ of the way through what's available at this point.

I also just re-read the first volume of the '08 Guardians of the Galaxy reboot by Bendis ("Cosmic Avengers"), and read Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe in about half an hour last weekend.

... I have also been returning to Watchmen a bit. Not re-reading it in its entirety, but reading sections here and there because ... Well ...

SPOILER:

At least 2 (probably 4)Watchmen characters have "invaded" the DC Universe, and somehow altered the timeline of the post-crisis and New 52 characters in a seriously mindfucking kind of way, and that is essentially the backdrop for all of Rebirth.

It's fuckin' good shit.

LifeDistortion 07.03.2016 01:10 AM

Thank you for the suggestions, I skimmed over them and they all seem varied and intriguing. Can't say if all the post-comic stuff is collected in Wytches, it might be at the end, so far I've just been reading the comics so anything extra might be at the end of it, might not. Locke and Key does have the advantage of being completed and written by Joe Hill whose novels I like but have yet to read his comic book stuff. If you are asking what platform I'm using to read my digital comics I'm reading on my iPad.

Severian 07.03.2016 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by amerikangod
Also, where are you reading your digital comics?


Not directed at me, I know, but I'm answering anyway because I just happen to be burning up my iPad with digital comics these days.

DC doesn't have a subscription comic service (yet), and because at least ¾ of the titles I read on a regular basis are DC, this basically means that I pretty much have to just use iBooks via the iTunes Store when I'm reading on my iPad.

Marvel does offer a subscription service called Digital Comcs Unlimited (or "DCU," which was totally unintentional, I'm sure and was in no way intended as an affront to, y'know, DCU.) I don't subscribe because I don't read enough Marvel to make it worth it, and what I do read is usually older stuff.

So again, I use my iPad, or my iPhone to download comics from iBooks. But no matter what you're using to get recent titles from major publishers, you pretty much have to pay cover price. I don't mind this really, because I like giving my business to Apple, but if you're working with a slim budget, or saving up for something, this option simply isn't practical. Even though the titles are only about $2.99 per issue, if you read a lot, that's certainly going to add up.

The same is true of Amazon/Kindle. I would not recommend using a Kindle product for comics. I have a Paperwhite that serves me well for non-graphic reading, but the "Fire" models boast a horrendous UX and slow to a goddamn crawl if you try to load something the size of even a basic 20-30 page single monthly issue. So, if I DO use Kindle, I use the Kindle application on my iPad, and it works about as well as iBooks.

It's an imperfect system at this point. Why are we paying cover prices when publication and printing fees don't apply, and therefore have no business being factored into the digital price? iTunes (usually) doesn't charge full price for albums or books, so why the hell are they doing so for comics?

Generally, I don't really like streaming unlimited services for media, but is we're going to have them for films and music and video games, we should certainly have them for comics. A Spotify or Netflix kind of situation for Marvel, DC, IDW, etc. is something I would gladly pay $10-15/month for.

Severian 07.03.2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
I suppose I could always get Watchmen.


If you haven't read Watchmen, you absolutely need to read Watchmen. If you're entertaining any plans of heading into the DCU for Rebirth, having prior knowledge of Watchmen is an absolute necessity.

I'm of two minds about the comic itself. I don't actually think it's the greatest graphic novel of all time. Far from it really. But it's simply brilliant from a "big picture" perspective, and it contains some of the absolute best and most influential writing in comic history. It's definitely a must-read.

(I've always kinda wished someone other than Gibbons had drawn it. I just don't care for his art. Every face, every hair style, every bulbous eye, looks like it came from the same comic book illustrator's Mr. Potato-Head kit. There were so many more versatile and skilled artists at work in those days. The comic could have been several times better, in my opinion, if it was a little bit more pleasing to look at.)

LifeDistortion 07.03.2016 05:33 PM

You know, I heard about ComiXology before and initially I thought well maybe I should have checked that site first before going through the iTunes store. Then I started to read the reviews of their app and people were giving it bad reviews, saying it was slow amongst other complaints.

Severian 07.03.2016 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by amerikangod
Most of the bad reviews happened when Amazon bought comiXology. At that point the iOS version of the app was overhauled to remove in-app purchasing, as I'm sure Amazon wasn't about to give 30% of every sale to Apple. Sure, it's frustrating for iOS users, but you can literally take 2 seconds to make the purchases on the site (on your computer, or even right in your browser on your iPad), and it becomes a small inconvenience at worst. The level of backlash was really not deserved.


I tried the app a while back. Quite a while back, now. I want to say 2011 or 2012, which was when I started really experimenting with multiple mobile and 3/4g devices.
I was kind of appalled by the lack of actual content that was available. I just remember being frustrated as hell because I'd type in a title like Hatter M or Ronin, and nothing would come up. Or I'd type in Superman, and there would be a ton of old, out of order issues.

Maybe I'll check it out again, but I certainly won't be using a subscription service that doesn't even offer Marvel or DC. I heard about this. Worthless for a reader like myself. I've played around with tons of totles from tons of publishers and the only stuff I want to read is DC, Vertigo, Marvel, Dark Horse, and occasionally IDW or Titan.

EVOLghost 07.06.2016 09:45 AM

amerikan, how do you feel about the new Berserk Anime. I'm gonna watch tonight after work and stuff. They're skipping the history and just starting from the Black Swordsman right? I'm kind of happy about that, if I see that homosexual tension between Griffith and Guts, I'll kill myself.

Rob Instigator 07.06.2016 10:15 AM

I am reading Batman Court of Owls right now. Good stuff.

LifeDistortion 07.06.2016 12:57 PM

Yeah, after reading Scott Snyder's Wytches I've been curious about checking out his Batman stuff which I believe Court of Owls falls under.

Severian 07.06.2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I am reading Batman Court of Owls right now. Good stuff.


Have you read any of the new Batman monthlies post-DCU Rebirth?

Some fascinating shit. Really good storytelling. It's a limited run for the writer, but he's throwing in some really cool elements. You should be on top of all this shit actually, considering how into *cough* ... Watchmen you are.

I hope you're not taking my constant button pushing about your shady unsubstantiated claims about Kanye's "shittiness" too seriously. I mean... it's just a joke how full of shit you are in the café, but I hope you know I love you.

Severian 07.06.2016 08:42 PM

All you Batfans need to at LEAST read DCU REBIRTH, and then dig into what Tom King and David Finch are doing with the monthly Batman title right now. It's pretty goddamn impressive.

Rob Instigator 07.07.2016 08:38 AM

I have not read the new Rebirth stuff. I am still catching up on what happened in comics in the last 10 years!

deflinus 07.11.2016 04:54 PM

Clowes' Patience was pretty fucking rad

Rob Instigator 07.12.2016 08:41 AM

My tweet about a blog post I did regarding Bill Sienkiewicz's art got a Like from the man himself! http://rxttfaves.blogspot.com/2016/0...ists-bill.html

Severian 07.12.2016 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I have not read the new Rebirth stuff. I am still catching up on what happened in comics in the last 10 years!


Oh man, I hear you on that one. I've mostly given up on trying to catch up with New 52. I've resolved to read the entirety of Batman's New 52 run, and the entirety of both Superman and Action Comics from that era, which I've only read in spurts until now (like when John Romita Jr. was doing art for the former, and kicking absolute morherfucking ass on it, because he's fucking John Romita morherfucking Jr.), but other than that, I'm just going to let Rebirth catch me up.

It's doing a fine job so far, with little notes and references, plus clues and exposition built into the storyline. So far, from what I can tell, all you really need to know going into Rebirth is the basic premise of Flashpoint (where Barry went back in time to stop his mother's murder and totally fucked up the universe, then "died" going back again to correct things using the Speed Force, which did more damage and led to the creation of the flawed New 52 universe, full of holes and missing characters.)

That and an understanding of the events of Watchmen, which I know you have. Watchmen is figuring heavily into Rebirth, as the "alternate" universe where those events took place is connecting with the main DCU.

For instance, there's been a lurking villain who popped up in the last days of New 52's Superman titles, and followed the timeline over to Rebirth named "Mr. Oz," who I can only assume is one Ozymandias from you know what.

Honestly use, there's an into comic simply titled "DC UNIVERSE REBIRTH" that you should just read to Fucking humor me. It's one issue and it wraps shit up pretty nicely, an ends with one of the most awesome panels in modern comics.

Here's the cover.

 

Severian 07.12.2016 09:50 AM

Oh, and that "most awesome panel in modern comics?" Well, I'm not trying to spoil it, but you've just gotta see this shit. It's such a simple image, but oh! The implications!!

 

Rob Instigator 07.12.2016 10:13 AM

ha! I will do so!

LifeDistortion 07.12.2016 11:18 AM

So having not read any of these Rebirth comics my question is, is Alan Moore writing any of this new material? I don't think he had anything to do with Before Watchman, and suggests that DC owns the rights to Watchman, and not Moore, which is unfortunate for him.

noisereductions 07.12.2016 01:31 PM

I heard that the original creators are doing a new Jessica Jones series in the Fall. I'm excited about that.

noisereductions 07.12.2016 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
ha! I will do so!


man, I'll keep my eye out for that too. That panel is awesome haha.

RE: the digital comics thing... all the stuff on my tablet is either from the Kindle store or Google Play store right now. I haven't really delved much further out.

Severian 07.12.2016 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
So having not read any of these Rebirth comics my question is, is Alan Moore writing any of this new material? I don't think he had anything to do with Before Watchman, and suggests that DC owns the rights to Watchman, and not Moore, which is unfortunate for him.


Nope. No Moore. And no, he didn't have anything to do with Before Watchmen. He created the characters on DC payroll, and I'm guessing they retain the rights of ownership. Just like how Frank Miller created Elektra, crafted a story arc around her in DD, killed her, and then have her a solo book... In his mind, that was it for the character. He didn't realize she's become part of the canon, or a "legacy" character. But there she is, being used in movies, tv shows and video games.

Honestly I don't know why Alan Moore isn't involved, but if I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's because Watchmen and V were his outlets for CREATING something in the comic book world. He'd certainly paid his dues writing for countless DC titles (Superman and Swamp Thing being the best.) I'm guessing he'd just as soon let Watchmen be a singular entity. Like a novel. A superhero story that is 100% isolated from any other superhero stories.

But for some reason I also want to say that he's retired. Is that ringing any bells with anyone?

Anyway, the truth is the Watchmen story is powerful as hell, and they needed a massive catalyst for this Rebirth overhaul (which is not really a reboot like new 52, it's much stranger than that)... And Watchmen is hella popular, and also contains the most powerful character in DC Comics history with Dr. Manhatten. Who else has the power to create and destroy universes, and manipulate godlike heroes like Superman and the flash?

I'm not sure how I feel about it on an artistic level. I hope Moore gave his blessing. But in terms of story power, it's providing a lot of fascinating material, and leading to a lot of interesting theories about who's involved, what they're doing, and how long they've been doing it. The only two Watchmen to be shown (or overtly referenced) at this point are Manhatten and Ozy, but that's not surprising considering those guys were the fucking bastards who let the world collapse for the "greater good" ... And because pretty much everyone else is either an ineffectual pussy (Night Owl) or fucking DEAD (like, everyone else).

Shrug.

Severian 07.12.2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I heard that the original creators are doing a new Jessica Jones series in the Fall. I'm excited about that.


Yep, as part of this Marvel NOW! Thing that I'm really confused about because I've been paying so much attention to DC.

There's all this "Divided we Stand" marketing going on for Marvel NOW!, featuring Dr. Soon as Iron Man, and other weird character combos. I've missed a lot because I'm just wondering why they're using that kind of phrasing for a future event, just as Civil War II is taking off.

I need to catch up on my Captain America. Wanna know what all this Nazi nonsense is about. I love Cap. I love very few Marvel characters, but Cap is one of them, for sure.

And yeah, I'm all in for a new Jessica Jones solo book. Can't bloody wait in fact.

Think there's a NOVA movie coming out.

Ugh. It's really hard to be actively "in" to both DC and Marvel at the same time. Things get complicated. I mean, there are currently 3 Supermen in DC, and one's "dead," while another is a powerless Clark Kent... And now Cap's a (gay?) Nazi and Iron Man is NOT ONLY a fifteen year old black girl but also Dr. Doom? And fucking Male-Thor is back?

Brain pain.

noisereductions 07.12.2016 08:15 PM

way complicated. I'm not reading any new stuff right now tbh. Just revisiting and catching up on old stuff. But I WILL read the new JJ when it hits.

Mostly I read Marvel. And then Batman. And TMNT and random non-big-2 stuff.

But yeah I've heard about the HAIL HYDRA stuff and the new Iron Man Girl stuff. I shrug it off for now. No opinion til I get around to it all who knows when.

LifeDistortion 07.13.2016 01:04 AM

Frankly, I'm all for it. The fact that its taken this long for Marvel to diversify their roster, its been long in coming. Miles Morales has been popular, female Thor seems to be successful, and now a cool female as the new "Iron Man", I even was talking to someone on twitter and said they should give her the moniker Iron Maiden. I'm totally for it.

Rob Instigator 07.13.2016 08:41 AM

When I read Alias I found the first 3 issues of the OG miniseries to be engrossing and then it quickly slid into soap opera bullshit. The TV show was actually better than the comic.
Marvel killed that shit by now allowing Bendis to use other Marvel characters in the book.

noisereductions 07.13.2016 12:22 PM

the JJ show was fantastic. I loved it. I'm in the mid of season 1 of DD right now. Trying to get caught up for Luke Cage/The Defenders.

Severian 07.13.2016 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
the JJ show was fantastic. I loved it. I'm in the mid of season 1 of DD right now. Trying to get caught up for Luke Cage/The Defenders.


I really liked DD season 2. Better than season 1, in my opinion. Not sure why. I loved season 1 at first, but when I re-watched it, some of the Kingpin crap made me cringe. And I hate Karen. Which, you'd think, would make me hate season 2 more than 1, but she's actually less of a focal point.

Freaking secretary going to court, interviewing clients, breaking into houses. I'd fire that dumb bitch.


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