I'll answer for him - yes, loads of people. When you say 'life, post-Nietzsche' do you mean people who follow in Nietzsche's footsteps (in which case you want Bergson, Heidegger, Deleuze) or people who operated after Nietzsche? If you're after something easily digestible I'd go for Zizek - 'welcome to the desert of the real' is pretty easy going. If you're after reading what is my favourite work of philosophy, I'd go for JF Lyotard's Libidinal Economy. That's not so easy going. If you're after something right up to the minute, I recommend picking up Radical Philosophy or Collapse journals. There are other journals out there, but I think these are probably the most representative of where philosophy is at today. This doesn't, of course, reflect upon the quality therein. It's probably worth sitting through some Badiou - Being and Event is not necessarily that easy, but definitely worth it.

There's loads more, obviously, but no fucker ever reads 20 books just because someone on the internet told them to.

I don't particularly see any connection between strength/weakness of mind.. character.. wathever and the ability to recognise one's own mistakes. That is such a political and competitive type of statement to make.
Not a dig at you.

I know you weren't asking me but I must suggest Foucault. Esp. Discipline and Punishment and History of Sexuality. But it might be helpful to start w a Foucault reader.

My difficulty is that I don't consider the ability to recognize one's own mistakes as strength. I interpret strength as a term of power and, therefore, essentially competitive. In fact, I consider humility to be, in part, a recognition of one's dependency which conflicts with this "strong and independent people" talked about earlier. I suppose there is a level of strength needed for humility to overcome one's self but this is a kind of meta-attitude while "strength" is closely related to a base attitude.

I've thought about it some more and decided that I don't care enough about anything to become offended.

my most common response to "doesn't that bother you??" is "eh...not really."

^ me too! agreed...

to be offended u have to care, and generally i don't give a damn.
goes along with the whole no heart/undead/robot thing.

hey robojokes, what about the time you neg repped me?

that wasn't because I was offended. it was because I was trying to spin you up some more.

it didn't work. :(

floatingslowly.

I'm a pretty intense person. I get really passionate about certain things/people/ideas. I think it's because I'm an Aries.

I lied before about not caring. I've just been deeply wounded.

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emo kids offend me

emos use their arms. I use my penis.

I cut a line down the side and bend it around to make a frownie face.

:(

So the best way to get rid of your frown is to give you a boner.

he is from the time when self-cutting was cool and goth and not an "emo" stereotype.

HA HA HA! OLD PERSON!

what if I were to tell you that I've had a Weezer song written about me.

:(

Glice + notyourfiend, you're amazing! I'll probably pick up Zizek and Foucault first and go from there. If you were excited about anything else, by all means, I'm all eyes. My understanding of Nietzsche is admittedly pretty weak, but from what I gather we were left with a pretty bleak reality, and I am curious to read up on where others have taken that.

edit. Completely unrelated modern philosophy is intriguing as well, I guess I've just assumed that it wouldnt be as familiar to me.

People telling me to go listen to Bikini Kill.

really? i fucking love bikini kill. so much. they are up there with the youth that get sonic in terms of bands that have influenced me.


Edit: Now I'm listening to Thurston Hearts the Who

Nihilism? I'm pretty sure Nietzsche saw to that dead horse being flogged.

Ha. I made a funny.

What's Simon Critchley like?

No problem. :D

I honestly need to pick up more Nietzeche. I've only read the entirety The Birth of Tragedy, but I don't think that really gives an adequate representation. His work, however, was partially summarized to me by various professors.

One of Foucault's major influences was Nietzeche, who said that subjects develop due to power relations in society. Foucault talks about histories of concepts, indicating that different values emerge out of histories/truths are historically contingent etc. Power, Foucault said, is operative - every subject is formed as a result f power relations. Institutions such as the church, capitalism, and psychoanalysis all have investments in formulating the subject. Power to Foucault is not something which is oppressive with "the man" keeping the subjects down - rather, power can be used to raise certains ideas which people have investments in. I.e. in the case of, say, sexuality: institutions such as the church and capitalism all have investments in forming subject's relationship to sexuality. This is what is discussed in The History of Sexuality.

I hope you find that somewhat helpful. I've got a little bit too aquainted w Foucault during my time as a women's studies major at a liberal arts college.

The bleaker side of Nietzsche can be associated to Jean-Paul Sartre. Most would agree that Nietzsche's philosophy is meant to be inspirational.

Really really

^ yes yes.

Depends on what you're after. I'd definitely recommend going through the big names before heading for him. He's good, but his value is defined more by prior knowledge about the subject, that is, you mightn't get much out of him without a fair bit of prior knowledge. Then again, you may well do. He pops up on the radio from time to time, always seems very lucid.

three things.

a)
I agree when you said that women have the right, but underage girls are not legally women, and since we baby them so damned much they are not mentally women either, they are girls and children. Sorry, I hated it too, but kids don't have the same kinds of rights adults have and in large part its for their own damned good.

b)
You mentioned something about if men were the ones getting abortions.. let me flip that on you.. who is the one performing all these abortions? Look behind the funding and the legislators and the operators of all these abortion clinics and providers who are they? Who are the politicians and lobbyists world wide that have the highest pro-abortion agenda? They are all men. just think about that for a minute

c)

If kids come from fucking, then how come everytime I have fucked I didn't have a kid? I have fucked a lot more than I have children I can assure you ;)

You?

fucking under specific circumstances.

do you want to get medical here? i can stop taking my birth control and figure out when i'm ovulating and if my boyfriend came inside me there would be a pretty good chance i'd get pregnant. but i'm not going to do that.



no one is going to sit around and tell me that children come from god. fuck you.

again. many people have unprotected sex all the time, but there are no kids born. my point, perhaps its a bit more miraculous an event than you were describing. fucking results in orgasms, reproduction is a bit more complicated if you ask me.. its more than just fucking at the right time, people fuck by the calendar to try to HAVE kids, no dice.. people just fuck and unexpectedly BAM here are some kids.. I say fucking had only a part to do in the matter. its simple logic:

If two people fuck, and they don't have a kid then fucking does not necessarily lead to kids. There must then logically be something more to the equation for those who fuck and have them?

The band Ween.

Satan, your not living up to your description, I think you are not the Devil at all!

"You believe in the one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and tremble in fear.." James 2:19

Inspirational in that people can have more control, that truth without gods or mega-bosses in our lives produces freedom? Maybe I never got past the part that explained how that's not the biggest hugest pressure of all? That's where I'm stuck.

Again, many thanks to Glice and notyrfiend for the rec's.

i'm not having this god vs. science argument. no.

babies come from the stork. everyone knows that.

Aw, I thought I was too irrelevant to offend you. Honestly, I don't even remember of what I was asking an example. I won't bother since it must be trivial.

Its not about god VERSUS science, god IS science and science is an observation of God ;)
but any devil knows that... I thought your were the deific satan, not the freudian conceptual satan of the church of satan satanists..

I like you!

bad breath

xtreem hippie armpit

bloody gums

1. science was invented by people
2. god doesn't exist

1. yes
2. it does-- as a concept. the same way unicorns do.